ACS Top 10 - Ex-Betelgeuse - [TOT: 69.770.134.000] eos [Exiles] & Vulcan [Exiles] vs. GoodWin [U R] (A: 12.678.426.000, D: 57.091.708.000)

  • First off a big apology to Spam, the original owner of Goodwin's account. However if you want to give your account to a cheat and script user, expect it to get targeted and crashed.
    The planning for this hit goes back months. Vulcan and I spotted this continual activity on certain planets/moons at certain times of the day. After a closer look we could clearly see that Goodwin was using some sort of a script to make activity on 3 moons and his HW. After a bit of discussion we decided to rather let him face the ultimate humiliation of losing his fleet rather than reporting him to the SGO.
    So the long hours of watching, making notes and a few probes from a few players seeking revenge we found the gap and formulated a plan of action. Tests were done to see if he was using a bot or just an activity script. Fortunately it was the latter. The first attempt we aborted and recalled colony ships as he was on a bit later than expected. Finding the right time that both Vulcan and I were available and when Goodwin was not in vac was the biggest headache. To cut a long story short, the date was set for Friday night . Colony ships were sent to arrive just after his "fleetsave" and we waited and watched. As per routine he logged (although there was constant activity on his preset moons/planet the entire day) and fleet saved all of his res fleets that were on other moons and then did his usual fleet save of main fleet to own DF and went off for the night. We mooned up, jumped fleet in and launched ASAP as securing all of the DF was our biggest worry as we each needed to do 3 trips.
    As it turned out the sim lied a little and it was not quite 3 full trips with recs.
    The entire time our RIPs and main fleet were on the way to Goodwin's moon there was activity on his preset planets/moons. We had a little DF to watch off his moon and it disappeared on time. His main fleet returned and the rest is history.
    Vulcan did the clean up of the rest of the res on his moon, but I rechecked a few hours after our hit and a transport had deposited some more res which I duely scooped up.
    Goodwin, I really do not know what to say........... besides using scripts, you were using your old alliance members to push your account. We are not blind. As a fleeter, information is king in this game. I make sure that I know exactly what is going on all the time, especially information on players of interest. When one of you old ally mates pops out of long term vac for 3 hours, loses his fleet and then vacs again.......... Suddenly you have a spare billion res to throw into fleet after being in vac for days with little res on your moons.....Mmmmm
    As I said before information is king.


    A big dedication to all those who helped with the intel gathering. No names mentioned, but you know who you are.
    Deut costs to launch fleets and recs were astronomical for Vulc and myself, so we had to ensure that it was a 100% chance (which it was) hit.


    Vulcan Deut cost: 29kk for fleet and 456kk for recs
    Eos Deut cost: 32kk for fleet and 126kk for recs



    FR Vulc
    FR me


    No FR to Goodwin. Know if you return, you are in my cross hairs and you WILL lose the fleet that your Space Dock will spit out




    On 05-05-2017 --:--:--, the following fleets met in battle:



    Attacker eos [Exiles]
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    Deathstar 3.298
    Destroyer 33.502
    Battleship 36.500
    Battlecruiser 107.000
    Light Fighter 1.177.984
    Heavy Fighter 12.008
    Cruiser 163.802
    _________________________________________


    Attacker Vulcan [Exiles]
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    Deathstar 5.185
    Battleship 21.000
    Destroyer 50.000
    Battlecruiser 150.000
    Heavy Fighter 70.000
    Cruiser 305.000
    Light Fighter 1.350.225
    _________________________________________


    Defender GoodWin [U R]
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    Small Cargo 140.000
    Large Cargo 52.300
    Light Fighter 1.747.082
    Heavy Fighter 299.027
    Cruiser 269.503
    Battleship 55.459
    Colony Ship 4
    Recycler 405.228
    Espionage Probe 1.019
    Bomber 2.006
    Destroyer 35.435
    Deathstar 1.240
    Battlecruiser 123.261
    _________________________________________



    After the battle ...


    Attacker eos [Exiles]
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    Deathstar 3.290 ( -8 )
    Destroyer 30.840 ( -2.662 )
    Battleship 32.967 ( -3.533 )
    Battlecruiser 98.100 ( -8.900 )
    Light Fighter 425.064 ( -752.920 )
    Heavy Fighter 6.261 ( -5.747 )
    Cruiser 130.684 ( -33.118 )
    _________________________________________


    Attacker Vulcan [Exiles]
    ________________________________________________


    Deathstar 5.169 ( -16 )
    Battleship 18.977 ( -2.023 )
    Destroyer 46.082 ( -3.918 )
    Battlecruiser 137.856 ( -12.144 )
    Heavy Fighter 37.313 ( -32.687 )
    Cruiser 246.592 ( -58.408 )
    Light Fighter 489.337 ( -860.888 )
    _________________________________________


    Defender GoodWin [U R]
    ________________________________________________


    Destroyed!
    _________________________________________



    The attacker has won the battle!
    The attacker captured:
    64.042.595 Metal, 6.764.048 Crystal and 69.972.538 Deuterium
    17.666.666 Metal, 5.073.036 Crystal and 30.260.298 Deuterium
    4.500.000 Metal, 1.268.259 Crystal and 7.731.741 Deuterium
    1.166.666 Metal, 317.065 Crystal and 2.016.269 Deuterium
    333.333 Metal, 79.266 Crystal and 587.401 Deuterium
    83.333 Metal, 19.817 Crystal and 146.850 Deuterium
    30.219.447 Metal, 4.954 Crystal and 21.922.485 Deuterium
    7.554.862 Metal, 1.239 Crystal and 5.480.621 Deuterium
    1.888.716 Metal, 309 Crystal and 1.370.155 Deuterium
    472.179 Metal, 78 Crystal and 342.539 Deuterium
    118.044 Metal, 19 Crystal and 85.635 Deuterium


    The attacker lost a total of 12.678.426.000 units.
    The defender lost a total of 57.091.708.000 units.
    At these space coordinates now float 27.993.112.700 metal and 16.910.970.300 crystal.
    The attacker captured a total of 281.490.463 units.


    The chance for a moon to be created from the debris was 20%.
    ________________________________________________


    Debris harvested by the attacker(s):
    5.300.000.000 Metal and 5.300.000.000 Crystal
    5.301.000.000 Metal and 5.301.000.000 Crystal
    10.602.000.000 Metal and 0 Crystal
    3.200.380.000 Metal and 3.200.380.000 Crystal
    3.291.159.200 Metal and 3.109.600.800 Crystal
    298.573.500 Metal and 0 Crystal


    Total debris harvested by the attacker(s):
    27.993.112.700 Metal and 16.910.980.800 Crystal




    Summary of profit/losses:




    Summary attackers(s)


    Metal: 19.822.470.541
    Crystal: 13.166.182.890
    Deuterium: -481.495.468
    The attacker(s) made a profit of 32.507.157.963 units.



    Summary defender(s)


    Metal: -31.819.518.841
    Crystal: -20.413.731.090
    Deuterium: -5.849.948.532
    The defender(s) lost a total of 58.083.198.463 units.




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  • What can I say, finally our luck changed. After so many false starts on a number of prime targets we finally got a big bang for our troubles.



    Kudos to eos for the intel gathering, great flying with you.



    As the overall deut cost was some 1.124 billion, I guess our deut suppliers will be getting the call shortly - thanks for your support. Likewise, thanks to the unsung heroes that helped gather the info.



    FR to us both - as for those that use bots and scripts, you cannot hide.

    ~The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong~
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    U44/Quant/Jup/Betel HOF's = 576~ ~ ~481 Solo [10 Top 10] / 95 ACS [4 x #1 + 11 Top 10]
    ~~ RIP 7007+

  • I can only imagine the blood sweat and tears you guys put in this hit - and what a hit!


    Congrats to you two, by far the most competitive players in this Universe.


    I would say enjoy the spoils but damn those numbers are just ridiculous!


    Well done you two!

  • It sounds like this involved an awful lot of planning and must have been rather satisfying to see it happen successfully.


    Huge hit.
    Well done and enjoy the profits


    The rebuild is big but not undoable, so best wishes on that

    .

    Prickly Thorn.....



    Thanks to Morlorv and Blackmass for this sig


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    madheadshrinker 18.01.2015 13:49:32
    You actually are insane

  • O man what a hit. I don't know what is more impressive, 1) the dedication,time,research put into this attack, 2) the attacker's fleet, or 3) the size of the profit.


    Monster hit is Monster hit,


    FR you guys (no i don't mean you GW)


    And lastly I would like to say I feel sorry for the employees working in your nano tech and space doc, they probably won't get any break for the next few month. Hehe.



    Congrats!! Enjoy the spoils of war

  • one thing that makes me laugh about this hit is.....



    Honour points:
    (Dishonourable fight: -4.149.957) vs. (Honourable fight: +1.238.108)




    I'll be polite and ask how can a player that flagrantly breaks the rules get "Honour" Points when we each lose a couple of million. Bit of a farce in my opinion.

    ~The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong~
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    U44/Quant/Jup/Betel HOF's = 576~ ~ ~481 Solo [10 Top 10] / 95 ACS [4 x #1 + 11 Top 10]
    ~~ RIP 7007+

  • Congrats on the new number 1 PM me when you want it moved. Also I changed the label. Hyper advanced is only used for 100 Billion TD

    “War does not determine who is right — only who is left.”
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    Ex- Gmod... don’t bother me anymore

  • Congratulations on last No1 in Betel Vulcan
    I don't see this No1 being replaced.


    Don't feel sorry for me, I gave the account away and broke my ties with it.
    I didn't get hit.


    I didn't realise that me giving the account away will create this much action in the universe, hope you are still motivated to keep playing after this hit.


    It was nice playing with you all and I'm glad to be mentioned and remembered regardless of the circumstances.

  • Wow! Awesome hit, and crazy profits! Now I know why I've seen those monsterous fleets hanging around. Those ship counts are obscene!



    GL on the rebuild all.

    Once More unto the Breach

  • i initially past on viewing this post cuz i thought it read 57 million defender losses... did a double take and saw 57 bn obviously gotta open that!!! Huge profit attackers spend it wisely

  • Wow Vulcan, this profit is just brutal, congrats both!


  • I don't come around these parts often, in fact, i never actually come around these parts but wat can i say, word trickled back to Rigel that an old acquaintance / adversary of mine - Vulcan, had been involved in a MASSIVE hit and i had to check it out.


    Epic planning, fantastic hit, beautiful fleets & extra kudos for takin down a scripter lads.
    Hope to see more from u 2. :thumbup:


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  • Well, let's start. I apologize for my curve English. Google on another can not.
    1. as practice shows your respect is worthless. If you really respect Spam, then immediately he would have been told to either the SGO, or, finally, me.
    2. Show me the account on which I pushed myself? I've never been pushing things out of the rule, although I can bet you the fact that you were the one who recently downloaded the CAGRI account.
    3. Volcano and you say that honor glasses are not properly set and I am not worthy of it when you deserve it? are you serious?
    Who would you be if I did not start collaborating with Legends?
    Who would you be, if we and I, including forbade the new pilot, no less dangerous than the Void attack you?
    Whom would you become, if we and I included, did not vouch for YOU, give TOP1 to you?
    If I left the universe - it does not mean that I did not feel in her life and news.
    When WE gave you TOP1, it was agreed that our weapons would not go against us, and that there would be a merger of us and legends, but how you got it immediately became a Star and a king, and then the head was lost. (Secretly I will say: many legends have therefore been abandoned to play)
    But when people become stars, they begin to confuse the shore. Our weapon began to work against us "friends and allies."
    I took an account from Spam so that he would continue to live and grow and his work would not be lost, and not much to cooperate, but you were seized by power and a thirst to show what kind of cool guys you ... And in the end you spoiled relations with your friends.
    For those who passed by and did not understand the essence, I hope now it will be clear with whom you play and will play. Today you fly with them, and tomorrow you will be stabbed in the back.


    You wanted to humiliate me? Oh God, calm down) When hanhan fell unka was already then ours. And now you are with your own hands, but you are killing your own weapons with our weapons.

  • Unfortunately I cannot make head or tail of this "Google speak" so will refrain from responding in case I get the wrong end of the stick.

    ~The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong~
    exiledvulcan.jpg
    U44/Quant/Jup/Betel HOF's = 576~ ~ ~481 Solo [10 Top 10] / 95 ACS [4 x #1 + 11 Top 10]
    ~~ RIP 7007+

  • I'm not 100% sure what Goodwin was trying to convey, but please keep it civil guys. Thanks in advance! -Clittle

    “War does not determine who is right — only who is left.”
    Clittle.jpg


    Ex- Gmod... don’t bother me anymore

  • The original message in Russian is Spam, it can easily translate to you.

  • Having called on Spock, a couple of clairvoyants and dusted off my crystal ball and I am still none the wiser about Goodwin’s Google speak (rant?). However, for what it is worth here is my take……



    May 2015. Void offered me his account. Whether he needed Goodwin’s permission or advice is down to Void and Goodwin. It doesn’t earn Goodwin any Brownie Points.
    Goodwin wasn’t even playing Betel for another 4 months, so how did HE give me Void’s account?



    Following the gift of the account I agreed to ask Legends to merge with NBK. However, several NBK left or went v mode or changed names which meant we were unsure who was left to merge with. The Barra formed URwhich kinda ended discussions.



    Sept 2016 Goodwin, who was then in EHOT, returned after being in v mode for 12 months. He told me that he was going to mine and on the advice of Void I gave him a NAP.



    Goodwin joined UR and started fleeting, attacking one of our deut suppliers on or about the 13/11/16. I ACS defended and he recalled. He then moaned to Void who contacted me and complained about me interfering with Goodwin’s attack. I told Void that I had a choice, protect a friend or back off. I chose protect a friend – as I would today.



    We set up Exiles on the 13/11/16, informing Barra and Goodwin that in future we would have no NAPs or Allies except for our friends and deut suppliers. This was also posted on our Alliance Page for all to see.



    I assured Barra that I would not hunt or probe him unless he provoked me. That promise still holds good today.



    27/12/16 Goodwin was given Spam’s a/c and increased his fleeting significantly – no surprise.



    March 2017 (first week maybe) LaRus and long term v moded EHOT player popped out of v mode and lost 20k ships and a load of res and promptly returned to v mode.
    Next day or 2, Goodwin showed a massive points jump.



    24/03/17 LaRus pops out of v moded and probes us both and returns to v mode.



    26/04/17 LaRus again pops out and probes and returns to v mode.
    ……………………………………



    Since getting the Spam account, Goodwin has show activity (except for minor periods of cool-down) 24/7 usually on moons at 1.113.7, 4.251.12 and 6.475.12 as well as on planet 1.337.7 and sometimes on planet 4.117.7



    This is despite him being off line from approx 17.30 to 01.00.



    This has been reported to the GO at least twice – no action forthcoming.



    As FS’ing was too expensive for him he started 3 hr round trips to his own DF with his fleet still returning some 4 hrs before he logged on.



    I guess his script or whatever he used was his downfall, sort of gave the game away – nice Karma lol
    ……………………………………..



    I don’t know where he gets “stabbed in the back” from. Yes, we had an agreement until last November when I left Legends and set up Exiles with eos. This agreement was properly terminated with notification to both Goodwin and Barra and posted on our Alli page.
    ……………………………………..



    Likewise I am not sure what the Cagri account has to do with this. I believe I hit Cagri once way back. Since then he hasn’t presented himself as a profitable target. Eos hit Cagri twice, and, wait for it …. So did Spam when he had that account.

    ~The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong~
    exiledvulcan.jpg
    U44/Quant/Jup/Betel HOF's = 576~ ~ ~481 Solo [10 Top 10] / 95 ACS [4 x #1 + 11 Top 10]
    ~~ RIP 7007+