ACS Top 10 - Ex-Betelgeuse - [TOT: 69.770.134.000] eos [Exiles] & Vulcan [Exiles] vs. GoodWin [U R] (A: 12.678.426.000, D: 57.091.708.000)

Well, let's start. I apologize for my English. As I used Google translator.
1. As practice shows, your respect worth nothing. If you really respect Spam, then you wuld have told him about me "scripting/cheating" or whatever, or OG, or even me.
2. Show me account with one I pushed, I never brake the rules. Although I can say, not long time ago you pushed "123" account.
3. Vulcan and you said, honour points of battle is counted incorrect and I am not worth them, and you two are? Are you serious?
Who would you be if I did not start collaborating with Legends?
Who would you be, if we didn't prohibit new fleeter, no less dangerous than Void attack you?
Who would you be, if we did not trust you with TOP 1 acc?
When i left game for long time, that does not mean I dont know what happens here.
When WE gave you TOP 1, agreement was that our weapons would not go against us, and that there would be a merge of us and legends.
But when you get that acc, you became super star and the king and you lost your head. ( I will say as a secret: many of Legends for that reason left the game)
When people became like a stars, they gets arrogance. Our weapon began to work against us "friends and allies."
I took this acc from spam, because I want this acc to continue live and grow up, dont get lose his done work and step by step start cooperate.
But you became the lord and the desire to show how cool you are.... And you spoiled relations with your friends.
For the new players of this uni: I hope now it will be clear with whom you play and will play in the future.
Today you fly with them, and tomorrow you will be stabbed in the back.

You want to humiliate me? Calm down, when hanhan was destroyed this uni was already ours. And now with our weapons in your hands you are destroying our own work.

P.S. from me: I hope I translated this as accurately as it was suppose to come from GoodWin, there are few Russian slang sentences that are impossible to translate so I did my best to find most suitable English alternatives to my knowledge.

And this one is from me: I dont know eos very well, but I know both of you GoodWin and Vulcan. Both of you are nice people.
This isn't just a game, you can make friends here.

Thanks for the translation Spam.
I will not dignify Goodwin's "rant" with a further response as I haven't read such BS in a long time.

Geez, took a while to recover my forum acc.

Relationships eventual breakout over the years is meh, but worse stuff happens in dead uni's. Vulcan got my acc as one of the last active fleeters...not like Goodwin, Barracuda and spam weren't offered it before. For a good year, repetitively...can't really complain after that
Defending miners from allies was also meh, but when these allies sit in VM for half a year, and then randomly come out to hunt some miners and go back to VM - well, I can certainly see Vulcan's point of view, that of one of the last active players, too.

The conflict that came after that gave the uni some life...disappointed regarding usage of scripts, if that's indeed true.

Nice hit either way.

well done Vulcan and eos great hit, nice to see friendly chat here

Goodwin if you are going to quit I'll take the acc

Sounds like sour grapes from the delusional wanna-be puppet master of Betelgeuse.

No it wasn't Nigma.

We set up Exiles because you launched on our deut trader and then went whining to Void to get him to tell me off. If we had done it to break the agreement, why did we wait 6 months to hit you?

Yes, I appreciate there are ways to legally create activity, but in your case there was no evidence to support the use of them.

To misquote Queen Gertrude from Shakespeare's Hamlet

"The lad doth protest too much, methinks"

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Sounds like sour grapes from the delusional wanna-be puppet master of Betelgeuse.

No it wasn't Nigma.

We set up Exiles because you launched on our deut trader and then went whining to Void to get him to tell me off. If we had done it to break the agreement, why did we wait 6 months to hit you?

Yes, I appreciate there are ways to legally create activity, but in your case there was no evidence to support the use of them.

To misquote Queen Gertrude from Shakespeare's Hamlet

"The lad doth protest too much, methinks"

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methinks you need to chill out xD

you and eos are good at OG no need to be like this when you HoF an attack.

and yes I see your point vulcan I too hate cheats in OG I hope players will see that if you cheat you'll get hit by you guys

Ok guys. Enough of the cheating accusations, they don't belong on the boards. If you suspect cheating then open a ticket with a GO. I've also asked once to play nice so absolutely no more trolling each other. If you want to do that then take it elsewhere. Any other infractions and I'll start handing out warnings and if need be close the thread.

always nice to see scripters down :thumbup:
Warned for cheating accusations. I've given this thread enough verbal warnings to stop. -Clittle

I'm impressed by the figures here, though it's sad to see a former partner go down. I don't know if any of the protagonists here will continue on Betel, I'm not sure there's much happening there still, but if they do, then FR.

I agree with Void (hi Void), relationships sometimes break down over the course of a few years, nothing out of the ordinary. Would have preferred if it didn't happen in these conditions obviously, but whatever.

This is a game. I think the best friendships I've build in this game, all the way back, was with people hunting me down or trying to escape from me hunting them. And even after we met in RL and had another party planned, we'd go back and try to hit each other. All in good fun. Some may find it weird but that's the point of this game for me.

Smooches to all I recognize

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However if you want to give your account to a cheat and script user, expect it to get targeted and crashed.

Vulcan and I spotted this continual activity on certain planets/moons at certain times of the day. After a closer look we could clearly see that Goodwin was using some sort of a script to make activity on 3 moons and his HW. After a bit of discussion we decided to rather let him face the ultimate humiliation of losing his fleet rather than reporting him to the SGO.

Tests were done to see if he was using a bot or just an activity script. Fortunately it was the latter.

Colony ships were sent to arrive just after his "fleetsave" and we waited and watched. As per routine he logged (although there was constant activity on his preset moons/planet the entire day) and fleet saved all of his res fleets that were on other moons and then did his usual fleet save of main fleet to own DF and went off for the night.

As it turned out the sim lied a little and it was not quite 3 full trips with recs.
The entire time our RIPs and main fleet were on the way to Goodwin's moon there was activity on his preset planets/moons.

Goodwin, I really do not know what to say........... besides using scripts, you were using your old alliance members to push your account. We are not blind. As a fleeter, information is king in this game. I make sure that I know exactly what is going on all the time, especially information on players of interest. When one of you old ally mates pops out of long term vac for 3 hours, loses his fleet and then vacs again.......... Suddenly you have a spare billion res to throw into fleet after being in vac for days with little res on your moons.....Mmmmm

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Yes, I appreciate there are ways to legally create activity, but in your case there was no evidence to support the use of them.

This was a great hit guys, I mean it. Good profit planning and execution. Funny though, there was another account in VEGA that did the EXACT same thing, down to the "lucky" spy and flys. The account I am thinking of was a BOA account, the same ally that you two were in.....Anyways, that is the past now, but you can first hand how frustrating stuff like this can be and how difficult to play against it. I am always happy to see potentially dirty accounts go down, as I don't play here I don't know the history 100%. Defender, I would say stay in vmode.......sounds like you are marked.

No longer a TOP 10.