Merge 2018 Discussion Thread

Just wanted to add

Virgo is less than year old. It doesn't need a merge.
Every time a speed uni opens, we grow. That is because this is a stable uni.
Once people get burned on the quick and the silly, they come to PLAY the game.

People picked 1x for a reason. I picked 1x for a reason.
I have played all speed uni. I do not like speed uni.
I made a choice. You are taking my choice away and are ruining all of the time I put into my account.

As far as I am concerned, you are robbing me. Are you going to issue a full refund for the DM I purchased?

I love this game. I have for many years. It is getting worse and worse.
Now, you force us to merge because.... ?

I don't care that you will destroy my ranks. I don't care that I will go from top to bottom. I can claw my way back up!

WHAT I DO CARE ABOUT IS A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE TO THE WAY THE GAME IS PLAYED!

If I had the time to sit on this game 24/7 and not worry about being crashed as I sat on the toilet, I would play speed uni still.
I am a grown man with a family and a business.

I not only feel like you are robbing me, I feel I am being discriminated against.

This will be the LAST universe I will EVER invest my time into if this is how I can expect my game to be treated.
I will NOT be purchasing a single bit of DM (thanks actually) either. I am not going invest more into this universe when you are going to make it next to unplayable for me.

I am one of the more active players in this uni. I have it easier than most do when it comes to being able to be on this game all of the time.
You make us go 2x, and you kill my game.

So sadly waiting for you to flip that switch and to send me packing
It would be super nice if GF could not all over the year I put into Virgo.

Quote from Elldamar

@Blankie - here is some statistics about activity and balance those two mentioned:Wezn - 132 active players
Deimos - 30 active players
Virgo - 393 active players

As we can see from this Virgo has more than double active players when you compare Wezn and Deimos combined. So, activity is far from problem in Virgo.

Balance wise, few numbers:
Top Vega 265kk points / Top Virgo 75kk points ( triple more on Vega )
Top Eco Vega 205kk points / Top Eco Virgo 48 points ( five times more on Vega )
Top Military Vega 153 points / Top Military Virgo 20kk points ( 7 times more on Vega )

That is nowhere near a balance. Its not just a points gap, its years-of-difference points gap.

Please rethink again about putting Virgo into any kind of merge as it isnt needed atm at all.

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I have to agree with Ellldamar here

Virgo currently has 393 active players...why?...because it is 1x fleet. In this case, changing to 2x fleet will result in over 50% if not more of the payers, quitting the game. That completely defeats the purpose of the merge in this case.

I, for one, will be one of those that will be leaving. I played 2x fleet, played there for almost a year & since going to a 1x fleet uni, i will never play 2x again. If I wanted to, I would go back to Polaris.

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Everyone thinks there universe is “special” and should be a target universe. It can’t happen that way. You have to roll with the punches, at least they are merging and trying to keep his game alive. They could keep us locked in our universes with no activity, but they are attempting to help us.

It's not special at all but the fleet speed is probably the no.1 choice for 95% of the people who play, how would you feel if you played a speed uni and were forced to play 1x speed uni ?

If I was in a speed universe and forced to play a 1x, I would adjust. I would definitely not quit bc the settings were changing, but to each there own.

(sry for bad english)
Almost everyone has demand a merge, and now then it comes, people are not too happy about it. Because it wont suit your preferences.

This merge will give the game a new boost, at least for a while. Some accounts, even huge ones, will loose their fleets. And many accounts will be deleted or vmoded after their losses.
I love to hear that we will merge, but dont think that this will save Ogame. The merge will just give the game some more time to live, it will not save it.

Lets merge and let the HOFs pop up like mushrooms.

See ya in VEGA!

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It's not special at all but the fleet speed is probably the no.1 choice for 95% of the people who play, how would you feel if you played a speed uni and were forced to play 1x speed uni ?

Mark, it's not worth arguing with this guy....

Only thing we can do is plead our case & prove it with number (thanks @Elldamar)

Hopefully the powers that be will look at the amount of upset players in the 1x uni going 2x & recognize the fact that more than half will quit. That this merge is great for some players & some unis but is not the right decision for others.

At this point, we need all Virgo players that do have an issue with this, like @Heretic , yourself, @Elldamar @chaosk, @pirate andy and many more, to post how they really feel & to plead their case. Our uni already has the higher numbers of active players, let's see if we can get them all to plead their case....there is power in numbers.

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Mark, it's not worth arguing with this guy....

Only thing we can do is plead our case & prove it with number (thanks @Elldamar)

Hopefully the powers that be will look at the amount of upset players in the 1x uni going 2x & recognize the fact that more than half will quit. That this merge is great for some players & some unis but is not the right decision for others.

At this point, we need all Virgo players that do have an issue with this, like @Heretic , yourself, @Elldamar @chaosk, @pirate andy and many more, to post how they really feel & to plead their case. Our uni already has the higher numbers of active players, let's see if we can get them all to plead their case....there is power in numbers.

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knowing how long it took them to put this merge together, I doubt they are going to change it for some players that say they don’t want to merge. But if they do, more power to you. GL with your endeavors.

I have an account in Wassat and also Wezn, whats gonna happen there then?

I am all for the merger.


I think all vmoded inactives should be moved to their own exodus universe based on fleet speed. If they want to become active at a later time they can submit a ticket to be moved to a similar fleet speed target universe.
(I would be willing to let all the inactive non-vmoded planets be moved or deleted also, but as a farmer I'd hate to see my best farms disappear)


I think everyone should be given X number of free relocations by GF.


Happy Hunting.


Regards, version4

I cant say I like this merge, it just doesn't get me where I wanted.

But still I see some justice coming in URIEL in a worst form that players of uriel can imagine

PUSHERS BEWARE...scrape your defences and satelites, research energy and power your fusions....start counting down days and hours.....because he is coming your way and you will be forced to push him

seriously....research energy, build fusions, scrape all

Virgo shouldn't be in this personally. Still a young uni.. plus most of us there joined there for the 1x fleet speed

Quote from InvaderZerk

I cant say I like this merge, it just doesn't get me where I wanted.

But still I see some justice coming in URIEL in a worst form that players of uriel can imagine

PUSHERS BEWARE...scrape your defences and satelites, research energy and power your fusions....start counting down days and hours.....because he is coming your way and you will be forced to push him

seriously....research energy, build fusions, scrape all

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as far as i know uriel is a pushing allowed universe, yet you are mad that they are pushing? dont think i can follow that logic, if you are talking about uriel ofc

on the other hand, not that happy that a merge is coming, specially since i was happy being in a dead uni building defenses and enjoying the silence, now ill have to be more careful lets see how the merges develop

@piink
can you please explain what will happen to players who have existing accounts in Vega, Betel and Polaris.
I am already being told 2 different out comes.

Betel is my primary account.
Will all 3 of my accounts end up in Vega ???
Or will the existing a/c in Vega exclude my Betel account ???

As i see most people are not happy with the settings ,so why you dont adjust something before merge its not like its not changable.With the programs should be fixed really fast and to see what the people demand.Merge is coming ,but its not like gonna help too much if the merges are done on the wrong way.Like with Virgo ,or Cygnus with some much more lower servers.Someone put his time and money in his account than you decide to merge his account with uni where the accounts are 2x stronger than his.I think if this remains like this in first month after merge 40% of people will quit.

fgjj

Quote from Iris

as far as i know uriel is a pushing allowed universe, yet you are mad that they are pushing? dont think i can follow that logic
on the other hand, not that happy that a merge is coming, specially since i was happy being in a dead uni building defenses and enjoying the silence, now ill have to be more careful lets see how the merges develop

We all know how that pushing rule works and if you ask people who left from there they will tell you same thing so...but where do you see that I am mad...I am not mad I am happy for URIEL

Overall this is a decent plan merge, similar to what i had in mind & even posted a few weeks ago.

BUT

there's still some rough edges to trim:

• Virgo - makes no sense to force 2x fleet speeds to 1x fleet speeds players - would be wiser to have them in Group 1

• 2 targets in Group 4? - seems pointless considering the number of active players in all those unis - unless, you replace one of them with (the missing) Quantum, for those who are brave enough XD

• Multiple accounts for the same uni - it has been mentioned that there might be a 2nd target option for those cases - would not be wiser to just open the target unis to everyone? (keeping as default target those that have been assigned)

Those issues aside, i think this is the kind of merge that was needed, one that greatly reduces the number of active universes. As usual some won't be happy, but you can't please everyone.

It's not perfect, but personally I'm fine with this, even tho I'll have my 2 best accounts stuck in the same uni (I suppose target uni's accounts can't move out?)

How can someone be that stupid to merge x1 speed uni with higher speed uni??
It is obvious that we started to play Virgo because of x1 speed
You can merge x2 x5, x3 x6, but you SHOUDN'T TOUCH x1 uni with speed one.
Simple as that

For me personally, there shoud be two rules when merging
1) CAN'T MERGE NON AKS WITH AKS UNI
2) CAN'T MERGE X1 SPEED WITH HIGHER SPEED UNI

If i'm playing non aks uni i'm building my fleet to other players from uni.
And making it asc uni, you ruined all composition of a fleet.
And if i'm playing x1 uni, thats for a reason. I want to sleep and don't want to wake up with all my moons popped...

I personally am not a fan of the merges as I see them as a way to kill off more players, maybe you have 200 active players in each of two unis each before the merge, but after the merge you then only have 300 that remain active as many don't like the new settings, some get crashed, etc after the merge.

I thought the Votes for changing Uni Settings was a good idea to help improve activity in unis with input from the players in the unis themselves. I also think that maybe instead of merges, you just allow the option of players to change unis if they want maybe once a year or so. If after changing unis, one uni lost almost all active players, then you could make it so all remaining players need to pick a new uni to play in. Of course it is hard to say what the best method might be to make as many happy as possible, but forcing people to move may not be the answer.

The real problem that this game has is keeping active players in each uni, and as I have brought up before, I believe one solution to this would be to gradually increase Eco settings for the uni every month or every year continually. This would benefit all that play and would give incentive for new players to join older unis. The mines produce more resources for the cost at lower levels so a smaller account could build up faster in this scenario without hurting the bigger accounts. Fleeters would have more targets to hit and users should remain playing longer in a universe like this. Obviously the merging has not really brought life back to the old unis, so I question why we keep doing the same thing when it keeps producing the same result?

I have concerns about 1 year old Universes being merged into Vega, which has a longer history, and has players from MUCH older universes from previous merge. The account differences are HUGE! (top player 265.916.152 points!)
I play BOTH Wezn and Vega. I really don't want to lose either account!
How about GF allows the option to MERGE my accounts (I get to pick which direction that goes after the merge) into one account so that I (and others like me) can retain our hard play and remain somewhat competitive in Vega?