Lobbyversion 1.4.0 Discussion

  • I am quite keen on getting more information regarding the new acc trade system. Mort urgently though, is the need to know whether the takeover is instantly permanent, or possible to regret. The old system had a 7 day period before an email change was made permanent, and I need to know whether this is the case with the new token system as well.

  • Instant and permanent, no way to revoke it by yourself. We don't know yet if there will be the possibility to revoke the trade for GOs.

    That is a really, really, really bad idea and extremely easy for people with malicious intent to exploit.
    I'd actually much rather prefer not being able to trade acc over such a horrendous way to implement it. Please do urge GF to reconsider this before loads of people gets their accounts fucked up over this bullshit.

  • That is a really, really, really bad idea and extremely easy for people with malicious intent to exploit.I'd actually much rather prefer not being able to trade acc over such a horrendous way to implement it. Please do urge GF to reconsider this before loads of people gets their accounts fucked up over this bullshit.

    I'd like to know how you think it would be extremely easy for people to exploit, when you don't even know the finer points of how it will be implemented? For myself, I imagine you will request the token, which will be a system generated, random and exclusive, key, that you can then send to the person you wish to give the account to. In the lobby, there would be a way then to "cash in" that key, and become owner of the account without anyone seeing emails or passwords. That seems pretty secure to me.

  • Somebody with access to your lobby account can gift themselves the acc in a matter of seconds. And if that happens you're supposed to wait several days for a GO to respond to the situation (and according to NMA, they might not even be able to help). Hacking and the like is still is thing you know, and with the ability to instantly and permanent make an acc change ownership, there is simply too much potential for a situation to get way out of control for far too long.

  • You are assuming that somehow there will be access to the lobby account.
    There would be one, and only one person whom you trusted with the key generated for the account you are giving away. And if (and there is always an IF) GF has done this correctly, the person who is taking over the account would have to enter the key into THEIR OWN lobby, without ever having access to yours.
    That is, how I hope they are doing it.

  • Somebody with access to your lobby account can gift themselves the acc in a matter of seconds.

    Thats why you shouldn't hand out your Lobby Logindetails.


    The other problem there is with this system, you can't see which account you get until you have added the account to your Lobby.

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  • Somebody with access to your lobby account can gift themselves the acc in a matter of seconds. And if that happens you're supposed to wait several days for a GO to respond to the situation (and according to NMA, they might not even be able to help). Hacking and the like is still is thing you know, and with the ability to instantly and permanent make an acc change ownership, there is simply too much potential for a situation to get way out of control for far too long.

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    People should not give out access to their lobby account. And I am very specifically not talking about that either. I am talking very specifically talking of the fact that a few seconds of unauthorized access to a lobby account results in several days unauthorized access to the game account. Do you have any idea how many friendly fleets and moons that can be destroyed with just a nights access to a big account? Not to mention the damage to the account itself. The wait for GF to restore fleets, moons and planets when this happens is historically several months, and this move multiplies by several times the number of potentially affected accounts. A few seconds unauthorized access to a lobby account can easily take an entire alliance out of play for months with this system! That is what I am so worried about. I am not saying it will happen often, just that the rare cases it will happen, it has the potential to cause extreme damage for prolonged periods of time.
    Simply put, people put way to much time and money into this game for GF to gamble like this with account security. There should be some checks and balances in place for a player to limit the damage as soon as it is discovered, instead of having to wait the excruciating long time it can take for the team to react even on the most urgent of cases.

  • Agree with DD.


    Especially after the unathorised access to The Staff Ogame accounts that happened in .us....


    Hacking is commonplace and idiots are even more common in this world. I know the login for about 15 accounts in Vega alone, thats alot of accounts that could be stolen

    Arcane
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  • If someone take your acc.Admins always can turn it back if someone take it.If he erase you planetes coma can do back up of yours information.But we with 5 acc in lobby can now give someone to play.

  • I'm more shock that we cannot unlink our accounts so that we can give it away & that some idiots in FAILFORGE couldn't come up with just unlinking the accounts that we do want to give or pass on to another player!!!!!

    Life a bitch so get used to it :)

  • Just an idea but maybe the account swap / trade / giveaway function should have a security word/password the owner of the lobby would set up to double verify an account trade. So in the event of trading only lobby owner will be able to verify... Surely hacking an unauthorised users would not be able to get this as well. And Only through support system u can change this word/passcode

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  • I really think they should make account trades revokable in case of a hack. Maybe make it to where it’s only unrevokebale by a GA or COMA or something. But other than that it’s a great re-addition


    Predators idea is a good one but maybe have it send a link to the email account on file or even have an option to send a text over phone to verify.

    “War does not determine who is right — only who is left.”
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    Ex- Gmod... don’t bother me anymore

  • Unrelated to the threat of hacking, I'm just annoyed with having another screen to click through to log in.


    I'm looking at all this empty space and wondering how this couldn't fit on one page.

  • another problem seperate to hacking is if a trade is being made and one of the parties gives out a false token but takes ownership of the acount coming their way.
    Ihavent clicked the link so it may be there is different token for trade and gift., maybe it could be set up so with a trade token the exchange doesnt happen till both tokens are entered and veryfied by the system?
    With the gift i agree that there should be a secondary check, maybe a verification email or even send the token code to the registered email for the lobby; that way a hacker would have to acess both email and lobby which should have different passwords to gift an acount.

  • i think the biggest problem is this


    you cannot see the account you are trading, if i agree to give my 100mil point to some1 for their 100mil point account in a different uni. what stops them just giving me a 0 point account they just created?

  • I have a question.
    I traded / generated token code to a so called friend of mine
    He took it and he was obligated to give me his other account. But he didnt and he told me that if i want to have it back i need to pay 150euros.. :confused:


    Feature] Account trade: it is possible to gift/trade accounts through a token. Account changes have a 15 days cooldown (a token can be redeemed for an account after 15 days from the last account ownership change).


    I report that scam and theft to GOs and ask if they can explain to me how to redeem traded account in which i was badly cheated.
    If anyone else knows what that means, please answer
    Thanks all

  • Lesson here not to sound harsh is make sure you trust someone implicitly before giving them your code. If you don’t trust them with your bank account don’t trust them with your Ogame account.


    Sorry this happened but the way I understood it is it is unrevokeable. But definitely open a ticket up on it and just pray to the o God’s something can be done

    “War does not determine who is right — only who is left.”
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    Ex- Gmod... don’t bother me anymore

  • I have a question.
    I traded / generated token code to a so called friend of mine
    He took it and he was obligated to give me his other account. But he didnt and he told me that if i want to have it back i need to pay 150euros.. :confused:


    Publicize all his details on the forum. His username, game accounts, skype details, etc.