WHOS GOT THE BIGGEST.

    Planet 01 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 48°C

    Planet 02 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 48°C

    Planet 03 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 57°C

    Planet 04 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 20°C

    Planet 05 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 30°C

    Planet 06 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 77°C

    Planet 07 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 34°C

    Planet 08 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 38°C

    Planet 09 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 20°C

    Planet 10 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 41°C

    Planet 11 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 63°C

    I CAME. I SAW. I TRIED TO CONQUER.

    THE CHIEF NOOB OF ALL THE NOOBS
    MINER WITH ATTITUDE?

    I think the assumption is this is for Europa only :lol:


    Level of Mines player Lonestar ( s157-en )


    Planet 01 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 33 / -119°C

    Planet 02 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 33 / -129°C

    Planet 03 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 33 / -95°C

    Planet 04 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 33 / -112°C

    Planet 05 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 33 / -94°C

    Planet 06 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 33 / -113°C

    Planet 07 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 33 / -119°C

    Planet 08 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 33 / -110°C

    Planet 09 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 60°C

    Planet 10 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 33 / -111°C

    Planet 11 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 33 / -120°C

    Planet 12 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 33 / -123°C


    Points in the metal mines : 5.897.244

    Points in the crystal mines : 2.105.492

    Points in the deuterium mines : 4.443.832

    Points in the mines : 12.446.568

    Plasma Technology : 14


    Per hour : 3.100.212 Metal / 843.302 Crystal / 1.046.480 Deuterium


    Per day : 74.405.088 Metal / 20.239.248 Crystal / 25.115.520 Deuterium


    Per week : 520.835.616 Metal / 141.674.736 Crystal / 175.808.640 Deuterium

    Current Universes: Europa
    Former Universes: 3, 18, 30, 35, Jupiter, Nekkar, Quantum, Xanthus, Fenrir, Janice.fr, Kalyke, Norma
    Basic 20%: 1000+
    Advanced 20%: ~300
    Top Tens: 13-1

    Yes that is with Fusion. I am on Energy Tech 19 and Fusions just upgraded to 19 as well.

    Slowly deconstructing solar plants on all planets to free up the ~20 slots

    Current Universes: Europa
    Former Universes: 3, 18, 30, 35, Jupiter, Nekkar, Quantum, Xanthus, Fenrir, Janice.fr, Kalyke, Norma
    Basic 20%: 1000+
    Advanced 20%: ~300
    Top Tens: 13-1

    Lonestar


    i'd like to ask a few questions if you'd bother to reply on here so both me and players who're willing to know more about position 15 mining learn something!


    1) i remember a few months back, you'd not be able to deploy your planets from 4-12 to 1-3 or 13-15 so players were going for 100's of colonization missions a day to get a nice, low temperature and a large planet. now the question is, i think you colonized them way before the update so you tried hundreds of colonizations as well? what is the field you would accept and abandon for lower...


    2) i remember you colonizing that +60 temp planet as your 12th. are you planning to relocate it to pos 14 on same system or you'll keep it?


    3) i calculate like 221 fields for 41-34-37 level of mines and 0 solar plant (assumed fusion 22 would be needed?) i'd put nanite 7, silo 6 and barely 11-10-9 depots which you'd need to collect at least twice a day so they dont get full. do you achieve this number easily with terraformer or you buy planet fields / a player needs to relocate from pos 8-9 for this (then you might get bad temperature so even at a discount, 168k DM lost for nothing?).


    4) do you use amortisation method or you go by your instincts on leveling up the mines? though it seems like a balanced upgrade but i am not %100 without i see it on infocompte. ^^


    5) do you use geologist? engineer? do you think its a must with the energy problem on pos 15 and fusions / tech getting expensive after some level...


    6) your lowest field planet? your highest? and a FieldUsed/Fields ratio on an average planet if you'd not mind sharing.


    7) i suspect a secret miners union. is it true? do you have a secret miner union where you guys help each other on getting some mine / astro levels and then go onto getting another one's astro. HAHA!




    respond wisely and persuade me so maybe i scrap my 18 billion fleet and go into peaceful mining mode since all of the universe seems to either do it or rot in vmode? that way all of the universe would relax and maybe even build some destroyers to bash me as revenge for what i've done so far... :love:

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    "Fenrir, the giant wolf, could not be constrained by any means known to man, so the dwarves forged a chain, but not from metal. Nothing made by man could constrain Fenrir, so they forged it from the things we cannot see and the things we cannot hear. Like the breath of a fish… the sound a moving cat makes. The roots… of a mountain."

    1. I colonized 1 planet on slot 15 to my regret. It is the only planet I have used DM to expand and the one with the highest terraform by far. Unfortunately I didnt plan far enough ahead and it was my 3rd or 4th colo here and I kept it. Eventually it was big enough I didnt want to delete so I invested in it.


    2. Ill probably eventually relocate my 12th planet, but if I do I will also do slot 15 in another system.


    3. I doubt I will have nanite 7 on all 12 planets, its not needed for the most part for me.

    As for field numbers:

    Metal 41

    Crystal 34

    Deut 37

    Fusion 22

    Nanite 7

    Robo 10 (probably deconstruct these once nanite is high enough)

    Silo 6

    12/11/11 storages is currently good for about 2 days for me

    12 shipyard

    12 Research

    ----------------

    Total 215 fields (205 - robo)


    About 1/2 my planets have 210 fields, the other half are about 230-260 and should be fine. That being said terraformer is surprisingly cheap for the first 7 levels, which will net you 31 more fields.



    I should have plenty of room to expand for higher storages if I want.


    4. So I do follow amortization for the most party, either UniverseViews or InfoCompte's, whichever I like more :rofl:

    I used to merchant a decent bit of deut so had the trade rates set at 3:2:1, however now I sell and no longer merchant.

    I never fixed the trade rates and so the amortization tends to favor metal and deut mines, which I like actually so I left the rates alone.


    5. I do have all officers and the energy/prod bonuses that come with it. That being said it is definitely not NEEDED, just nice.

    If you are going to go slot 15, part of the planning is knowing you have to invest pretty heavy in energy tech, but once you are at my levels in fusion and energy, the gains for a single level are massive.

    Basically I choose energy tech or 12 fusions, whichever is cheaper. At this point a level in either gives me 10k+ energy which is good for 5+ mines



    7. I am indeed part of a secret cabal of miners spanning hundreds of alliances across many universes from multiple international servers. We mostly conspire to keep deut rates high and to help manipulate those who bash our planets into being crashed. This is why most miners have rips to 'help' with MDs, this is how we clear out the sat bashers.


    6.

    .:: Planet Sizes

    |_206_|_198_|_202_|_207_|_203_|_203_|_202_|_201_|_192_|_225_|_203_|_227_| Used Fields => Average = 205.8

    |_209_|_209_|_210_|_210_|_207_|_210_|_206_|_261_|_238_|_230_|_213_|_230_| Total Fields => Average = 219.4



    .:: Building

    [center]Planets [/center]

    Mines

    |_37_|_37_|_37_|_37_|_37_|_37_|_37_|_37_|_37_|_37_|_37_|_38_| Metal Mine => Total = 445

    |_30_|_30_|_30_|_30_|_30_|_30_|_30_|_30_|_30_|_31_|_31_|_31_| Crystal Mine => Total = 363

    |_33_|_33_|_33_|_33_|_33_|_33_|_33_|_33_|_31_|_33_|_33_|_33_| Deuterium Synthesizer => Total = 394


    Storage

    |_12_|_12_|_12_|_12_|_12_|_12_|_12_|_12_|_13_|_12_|_12_|_15_| Metal Storage => Total = 148

    |_11_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_10_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_14_|_11_|_14_| Crystal Storage => Total = 137

    |_11_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_11_|_13_| Deuterium Tank => Total = 134


    Energy

    |_19_|_19_|_19_|_19_|_19_|_19_|_19_|_19_|_16_|_19_|_19_|_19_| Fusion Reactor => Total = 225

    |_19_|_20_|_24_|_20_|_22_|_13_|_23_|_20_|_20_|_22_|_21_|_21_| Solar Plant => Total = 245

    |__0_|__0_|_108|__0_|__0_|__0_|_28_|__0_|_251|_236|_30_|_100| Solar Satellite => Total = 753


    Construction

    |_10_|_10_|_10_|_10_|_10_|_10_|_10_|_10_|_10_|_10_|_10_|_10_| Robotics Factory => Total = 120

    |__3_|__3_|__3_|__3_|__3_|__3_|__3_|__3_|__3_|__4_|__3_|__5_| Nanite Factory => Total = 39

    |__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__5_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__4_|__0_|__0_| Terraformer => Total = 9


    Military

    |__9_|__8_|__9_|__9_|__9_|__9_|__9_|_10_|__8_|_12_|_12_|_12_| Shipyard => Total = 116

    |__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_|__0_| Alliance Depot => Total = 0

    |__4_|__4_|__3_|__5_|__6_|__3_|__4_|__4_|__2_|__4_|__3_|__4_| Missile Silo => Total = 46


    Scientific

    |__8_|__0_|__0_|__7_|__0_|__8_|__0_|__1_|__0_|_12_|__0_|_12_| Research Lab => Total = 48

    Current Universes: Europa
    Former Universes: 3, 18, 30, 35, Jupiter, Nekkar, Quantum, Xanthus, Fenrir, Janice.fr, Kalyke, Norma
    Basic 20%: 1000+
    Advanced 20%: ~300
    Top Tens: 13-1

    Planet 01 : Metal 38/ Crystal 31 / Deuterium 34 / -130°C

    Planet 02 : Metal 38/ Crystal 31 / Deuterium 34 / -119°C

    Planet 03 : Metal 38 / Crystal 31/ Deuterium 33 / -123°C

    Planet 04 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31/ Deuterium 33 / -108°C

    Planet 05 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 33 / -121°C

    Planet 06 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 33 / -105°C

    Planet 07 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 33 / -128°C

    Planet 08 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31/ Deuterium 33 / -105°C

    Planet 09 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 33/ -105°C

    Planet 10 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 33 / °C-91

    Planet 11 : Metal 36 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 27 / 44°C



    Planet sizes are

    215

    239

    240

    248

    250

    249

    271

    262

    253

    267

    281


    All nanite 5


    Energy source is fusion 19 with solar plant 20-25(will be deconstruction) energy tech 18

    The post was edited 2 times, last by Ramco ().

    See Ramco didn't mess around when it came to getting good size planets :hail:

    Current Universes: Europa
    Former Universes: 3, 18, 30, 35, Jupiter, Nekkar, Quantum, Xanthus, Fenrir, Janice.fr, Kalyke, Norma
    Basic 20%: 1000+
    Advanced 20%: ~300
    Top Tens: 13-1

    i must add they all relocated from slot 8 and currently terra 2 lvl (don't know why i build terra even i dont need )

    Planet 01 : Metal 38/ Crystal 32 / Deuterium 33 Slots: 215

    Planet 02 : Metal 38/ Crystal 32 / Deuterium 33 Slots: 239

    Planet 03 : Metal 38 / Crystal 32/ Deuterium 33 Slots: 237

    Planet 04 : Metal 38 / Crystal 32/ Deuterium 34 Slots: 249

    Planet 05 : Metal 39 / Crystal 32 / Deuterium 33 Slots: 271

    Planet 06 : Metal 38 / Crystal 32 / Deuterium 33 Slots: 275

    Planet 07 : Metal 38 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 33 Slots: 255

    Planet 08 : Metal 38 / Crystal 32/ Deuterium 33 Slots: 256

    Planet 09 : Metal 38 / Crystal 32 / Deuterium 33 Slots: 246

    Planet 10 : Metal 38 / Crystal 32 / Deuterium 33 Slots: 286

    Planet 11 : Metal 38 / Crystal 32 / Deuterium 33 Slots: 240

    Planet 12 : Metal 38 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 33 Slots: 248

    I dont put the temperatures because it does not even matter, I dont have cold planets and not planning have them soon, that thing is too expensive, waiting for the merge :D

    All nanites level 5, but planning to go to level 6 soon since its relatively cheap with respect to current mine costs.




    -- You've met a terrible fate haven't you

    nice levels. You and Lonestar have 12 planets and maybe other top 15 miners as well. I was thinking to go for astro 20&21 but it is too expensive (or maybe i am lazy) do you think i should go for astro now? 38/31/33 levels i have atm. My plan was doing astro after levels 38/32/34...

    Yes I think doing astro 20/21 has the fastest payoff with where you are at, but is definitely a pain to save for

    I dont even want to think about going for #13 yet :crazy:

    Current Universes: Europa
    Former Universes: 3, 18, 30, 35, Jupiter, Nekkar, Quantum, Xanthus, Fenrir, Janice.fr, Kalyke, Norma
    Basic 20%: 1000+
    Advanced 20%: ~300
    Top Tens: 13-1

    Lonestar wrote:

    Yes I think doing astro 20/21 has the fastest payoff with where you are at, but is definitely a pain to save for

    I dont even want to think about going for #13 yet :crazy:



    isnt infocompte telling you when you should be investing for astro as well? i have always thought miners of our universe went for 12th planet way too early... 13th?! for you, that'd probably be when you have like 39 33 35? or even higher mines.


    i dont know, i have always looked for a website calculator where you can put your mine levels, planet temperatures and it tells you to get astro after X level of your mines... i know about o-calc but there you can only see which pays off earliest (plasma or mine levels).


    for the next planet recommendation, i guess only infocompte has an option?

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    "Fenrir, the giant wolf, could not be constrained by any means known to man, so the dwarves forged a chain, but not from metal. Nothing made by man could constrain Fenrir, so they forged it from the things we cannot see and the things we cannot hear. Like the breath of a fish… the sound a moving cat makes. The roots… of a mountain."

    i commented on this thread oftenly but hadn't shared my mines so here it is;




    Level of Mines player van den budenmayer ( s157-en ) at 13.09.2019 20:14:45 :


    Planet 01 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 47°C

    Planet 02 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 41°C

    Planet 03 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 55°C

    Planet 04 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 37°C

    Planet 05 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 51°C

    Planet 06 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 63°C

    Planet 07 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 53°C

    Planet 08 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 58°C

    Planet 09 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 68°C

    Planet 10 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 22°C

    Planet 11 : Metal 34 / Crystal 28 / Deuterium 29 / 46°C


    Points in the metal mines : 1.601.721

    Points in the crystal mines : 685.377

    Points in the deuterium mines : 843.700

    Points in the mines : 3.130.798

    Plasma Technology : 14


    Per hour : 1.962.631 Metal / 583.242 Crystal / 394.923 Deuterium


    Per day : 47.103.144 Metal / 13.997.808 Crystal / 9.478.152 Deuterium


    Per week : 329.722.008 Metal / 97.984.656 Crystal / 66.347.064 Deuterium


    Export with Infocompte v3.12.27

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    "Fenrir, the giant wolf, could not be constrained by any means known to man, so the dwarves forged a chain, but not from metal. Nothing made by man could constrain Fenrir, so they forged it from the things we cannot see and the things we cannot hear. Like the breath of a fish… the sound a moving cat makes. The roots… of a mountain."

    Update time:


    Planet 01 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 48°C

    Planet 02 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 48°C

    Planet 03 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 57°C

    Planet 04 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 20°C

    Planet 05 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 30°C

    Planet 06 : Metal 37 / Crystal 30 / Deuterium 31 / 77°C

    Planet 07 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 31 / 34°C

    Planet 08 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 31 / 38°C

    Planet 09 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 31 / 20°C

    Planet 10 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 31 / 41°C

    Planet 11 : Metal 37 / Crystal 31 / Deuterium 31 / 63°C


    Points in the metal mines : 5.405.807

    Points in the crystal mines : 2.233.097

    Points in the deuterium mines : 1.898.336

    Points in the mines : 9.537.240

    Plasma Technology : 14


    Per hour : 2.841.861 Metal / 802.727 Crystal / 520.519 Deuterium


    Per day : 68.204.664 Metal / 19.265.448 Crystal / 12.492.456 Deuterium


    Per week : 477.432.648 Metal / 134.858.136 Crystal / 87.447.192 Deuterium


    Export with Infocompte v3.12.27

    I CAME. I SAW. I TRIED TO CONQUER.

    THE CHIEF NOOB OF ALL THE NOOBS
    MINER WITH ATTITUDE?

    Yes it does, both InfoCompte and UniverseView give the next optimal builds, but I sometimes deviate a bit for personal preference.