where is the definition of obstruction of account development?

  • long story short I have a high ranking fleeter player in a system and he has attacked without profit, destroyed my defences and fleets and made it impossible for me to develop my planets any further as my upgrades and research go over the amount he will raid for even he i distribute the cost over all my planets and moons. While i understand this does not fall under bashing as he is not attacking a single planet 6 times a day he is undoubtedly causing a obstruction to my development due to the fore reasons but i can not find a definition to check, if anyone can provide me with any more information it would be appreciated


    thank you

  • I think the 6 attacks pr. planet/moon is the definition of obstruction of account development.


    To me, it sounds like you are doing a bad job at keeping your planets unprofitable. Why do people attack? Because they want more resources. You might say he attacks without profit, but was that because you came online and moved something before he hit you?


    I'd try to:

    - collect resources more often

    - don't leave cargos on planets

    - have just enough defense to make it unprofitable to attack you (use a sim to calculate defense you need vs possible attacks, against the amount of res/ships you are going to leave on your planets before you collect)

    - never let anything sit if you are offline, fleet save all the time.

  • Whenever I see inexperienced players complaining about getting bashed for "no profits", I ask myself three questions:


    1. Was it actually no profits? Or 5-10-15kk profits aka. "ToO lItTlE fOr Ur RaNk"?

    2. Have you "retaliated" to the attacks yourself?

    3. Have PMs been exchanged, and what tone was used if so?


    Call me biased but most high ranked players are high ranked because, guess what... They use their fleet for profit.


    There are exceptions of course, but often those playing the victim card have a little introspection to do.

    "Ice is a cool guy"

  • Sounds like you leave stuff around too much. Are they really no profit hits? Show us some ogotcha CRs. Did you nuke the high ranked fleeter as well? That normally doesn’t help.......

    Like Lord of Ice said, tone in PMs can certainly be a factor too.


    In response to the post proper, obstruction of account progression hasn’t been in the rules for a long time.


    see you soon ;)

    Space Pyrate

  • While distributing the cost of an upgrade over your empire - you’ll not make any better.

    Better keep everything all together, by so you’ll make his life easier :)


    You should really read that article, mentioned in some comment above, about fleet saving.


    And no Profit means <= 0;

  • long story short I have a high ranking fleeter player in a system and he has attacked without profit, destroyed my defences and fleets and made it impossible for me to develop my planets any further as my upgrades and research go over the amount he will raid for even he i distribute the cost over all my planets and moons. While i understand this does not fall under bashing as he is not attacking a single planet 6 times a day he is undoubtedly causing a obstruction to my development due to the fore reasons but i can not find a definition to check, if anyone can provide me with any more information it would be appreciated


    thank you

    Aiden is that You :fatgreengrin: yeah 18kk profit sitting none defensive defense. nuked me after the fact failed to totally destroy the defense on the planet as I lay sleeping you commitment to throwing you're fleet into my defenses my poor cargo pilots couldn't keep a straight face. after they got back on the ground and it had been 4 months since I last probed or attacked Hmmm.

  • Pro tip....


    DO NOT IPM top 10 fleeters moons :youcrazy:

    that is 1 sure way to have them pay special attention to you!!


    My advise..... Go to the shop and get some KY, cause its gona be a fun ride im guessing ....... pucker up buttercup :vain:

    Top 10's - 8
    Retired - uni's 1,3,4,8,19,Electra, Japetus, Virgo

  • 1. yes and no 1-5 was profitable the other 40 was not and solely purpose bashing

    2. no attacks was made afterwards

    3. yes and frustrated tone


    and i take full responsiblity for what i have done and the mistake i have made but i can not take responisblity for someone who is using there higher ranks to bully out lower ranks simply for the joy/thrill of it

    Edited once, last by random guy ().

  • I would say politely message the player and have a calm and respectful talk with them. and ask them directly what mistake did you make to have them attack you.// and yes rude responses are not helpful. so they may bring that up be honest I imagine you we're pretty frustrated so tell them that and be honest many of us old players have been on both sides of this coin. in days gone buy the game had alot more decorum and player to player respect and dignity that we treated each other with. over the last 4 years part time players or younger newer players . have been let down buy players that introduced them to the game buy not telling them this is how we treat each of our fellow players if attacked and you are on politely message the attacker and let them know you are online and ask if they would kindly recall, so they do not waste time and fuel. now you're lucky if you get a smiley face or , on and that's it more often than not they just move the fleet and resources no message.and after three or four attempts at different times players can or will get highly annoyed at the scypter and begin to go on an annialation campain against that player . So remember always talk to other players like you would a grandparent. as one player to another and I know I have not been that ideally respectful player my self .

  • High ranking fleeters can smell weakness, and you my friend reek of it!

    It sounds like this is a horrible missmatch 1v1, luckily this is a multiplayer game with alliances.

    If you're not in an alliance, joining one might help, then every-time he attacks you he also disrespects your alliance.

    If you are already in an alliance then he is treating you and everyone in your alliance as a pussy.

    You either bend over and take it or show some fight and declare war.

  • sometimes takeing ove an auction can piss of a player and then he proceeds to ruin your account :D

    pro tip: do not take auctions from much stronger fleetres


    agreeing to sell deut 211 could be a good strat, it would work in my uni but you would still need to FS regularly and properly


    EDIT: seems i have 2 links to some site and yes i do not know how to spell regularly and properly :D the rly gets me messed up

    I am makeing Silverwind's days

    And I am savage now!

  • I am new to this also so I advise you to listen experience players advice.


    My suggestion is to shut mines when off... aftersome time he will stop probing regularly


    No use in building up defence it's trigger for top players


    Just collect ress as much often as you can


    Start selling deut to top player exclusive he will crush him to protect his sellers ( it's what I did )


    Keep learning and with experience you will enjoy this game once again

  • i think the most important thing is;

    APOLOGIZE to the higher ranked player profusely !!!! you obviously pi$$ed him off.

    Ask him what you can do to end the painal you are receiving.

    Its a 50/50 if he will accept apology...

    Top 10's - 8
    Retired - uni's 1,3,4,8,19,Electra, Japetus, Virgo

  • i think the most important thing is;

    APOLOGIZE to the higher ranked player profusely !!!! you obviously pi$$ed him off.

    Ask him what you can do to end the painal you are receiving.

    Its a 50/50 if he will accept apology...

    apologised for getting attacked, why? because he was p* offed so am i that i was attacked, bashed and so on.

  • It's a war game, not solitaire...if you just want to build things and not worry about someone coming over to knock them down break out the legos, sim city, or mine craft.


    Resource saving is just as important as fleet saving...and whatever you do, don't turn turtle, that'll just infuriate fleeters even more and make 'em twitch like a serial killer.

  • It's a war game, not solitaire...if you just want to build things and not worry about someone coming over to knock them down break out the legos, sim city, or mine craft.


    Resource saving is just as important as fleet saving...and whatever you do, don't turn turtle, that'll just infuriate fleeters even more and make 'em twitch like a serial killer.

    The amusing thing ogame is not advertised as a war game(check the sign up page i dont think war is mention once) and those examples are horrible seen as 3 can be ruined by another thing (lego-gravity/ something breaking, sim city- your city can be ruined in game, i think i havent played, minecraft-creepers) and why not turtle? if fleeters attack for profit and if turtling means there is no profit due to high defences why would a fleeter attack?

  • The amusing thing ogame is not advertised as a war game(check the sign up page i dont think war is mention once) and those examples are horrible seen as 3 can be ruined by another thing (lego-gravity/ something breaking, sim city- your city can be ruined in game, i think i havent played, minecraft-creepers) and why not turtle? if fleeters attack for profit and if turtling means there is no profit due to high defences why would a fleeter attack?

    Cracking shells is a favorite past time and fleeters like a challenge...

  • So, to clarify:

    There is no such rule regarding obstruction of account development, currently.

    There used to be a provision in the bashing rule but it was removed.

    The current edition of the rules have been around since 2012 (though clarifications are newer).


    Learn to fleet save and learn to resource save.

    Those two terms do not need to be separate and it is possible to resource save during a fleet save.

    If you do not learn to do those two things and you do not learn how to adapt to new tactics being used against you, you will have a bad time in this game.

    Join an alliance or make friends with people around you who are stronger than you or have been playing a long time.

    Let them teach you how to play - there is no sense in reinventing the wheel and friendly old-timers who are already bored might like having your attacker as an extra target.


    I have now provided several solutions to your issue.

    It is up to you to use any or all of them.

    Good luck!