Why would you attack someone with 10% of your points with major non-profit?

  • Short story,

    this guy with over 50.000.000 points attacked me with 5.445.354 points and had a major lost.


    w.. wh... why?? Asked him but no answer... Never talked to him, never spied, he does not have an alliance...


    he did the same in several planets. just one example:


    1st attack with 230 Interplanetary Missiles:

    cost:

    2875000 metal

    575000 cristal

    2300000 deut


    then attacked with 10000 Battlecruiser and a second attack with 7000 Battlecruiser.

    Stole total:

    78413 metal

    21225 cristal

    152454 deut

    + debris

    51000 metal

    499800 cristal (sats + probes)


    and lost 5 Battlecruiser + 2049000 deut for the trip


    TOTAL PROFIT:

    -2.895.587 metal

    -253.975 cristal

    -4.271.546 deut



    This is just the math for 1 planet!

  • 50m point range there is only one guy that could possibly be abusing small accounts xDDD he is playing for growth, so i dont know any of you but if he does waste a lot of ress on ipms that doesnt explain his growth, you guys are either letting to much ress on planets so its worth ipming or he is just buttering you up for later i dont know, if he goes in your system and you have a busy life, just vmode and see if the guy goes away but he seems to waste a lot of money and time on the game so i dont really know how you guys can deal with him specially when there are other players claiming he is on 24/7 which makes really hard to retaliate... :P

    Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat

  • Not on 24/7 because I got a successful attack on him


    Attacker: (C Wolff): 0
    Resources: 1.085Mn, Loot: 100%
    Debris field (newly created): 0


    The only res I got was the production of a few hours and my cargos.

    I'm pretty sure he got wasted and got major lost...


    And during the day he attacked one planet with IPM while knowing I was on. And then didn't even launch an atttack, just more IPM after I build more ABM...

  • The only way to be 24/7 and play with no waste concerns is to be a cheater. Saikano was banned some months ago for a limited period; take your own conclusions.


    If you are a fair player, no way to fight against that kind of misleading characters. Try to have fun by fighting with your best weapon: inteligence.

  • I have the diagnosis.

    He is probably a sad little boy who was abandon by his father and his mother was too occupied with poor life issues and did not breastfeed him.

    Poor little boy... He grew up to be an angry adult with learning disability.

    He is playing for a long time to still be making this stupid non-profit attacks. He still didn't understood how to play ogame... I have asked for friendship to help him learn the game but he rejected... :sad2:


    Don't know the fleet velocity. Deut costs calculated at 80% velocity.


    On 24-11-2019 09:14:34, the following fleets met in battle:



    Attacker saikano

    ________________________________________________


    Destroyer 1.000

    _________________________________________


    Defender C Wolff [Miners_2]

    ________________________________________________


    Small Cargo 400

    Rocket Launcher 1.147

    Light Laser 37

    Plasma Turret 15

    Small Shield Dome 1

    Large Shield Dome 1

    _________________________________________



    After the battle ...


    Attacker saikano

    ________________________________________________


    Destroyer 1.000 ( -0 )

    _________________________________________


    Defender C Wolff [Miners_2]

    ________________________________________________


    Destroyed!

    _________________________________________



    The attacker has won the battle!


    The attacker captured:

    157.279 Metal, 230.825 Crystal and 49.480 Deuterium


    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.

    The defender lost a total of 6.038.000 units.

    At these space coordinates now float 240.000 metal and 240.000 crystal.


    The chance for a moon to be created from the debris was 4%.

    ________________________________________________


    Debris harvested by the defender(s):

    82.500 Metal and 82.500 Crystal

    82.500 Metal and 82.500 Crystal

    75.000 Metal and 75.000 Crystal


    Total debris harvested by the defender(s):

    240.000 Metal and 240.000 Crystal



    Summary of profit/losses:


    Summary attackers(s)

    Metal: 157.279

    Crystal: 230.825

    Deuterium: -226.840

    The attacker(s) made a profit of 161.264 units.


    Summary defender(s)

    Metal: -3.876.779

    Crystal: -1.619.325

    Deuterium: -499.480

    The defender(s) lost a total of 5.995.584 units.



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    API

    cr-en-1-23d6d8bc2507b65ae3f5f7575a1552c46885b16e


    [7:11:8]


    Your recycler(s) (5) have a total cargo capacity of 165.000. At the target [7:11:8], 75.000 Metal and 75.000 Crystal are floating in space. You have harvested 75.000 Metal and 75.000 Crystal.

    API

    rr-en-1-474c8c580c3ba1f00d34d0609f65a21f7675e94c


    Your recycler(s) (5) have a total cargo capacity of 165.000. At the target [7:11:8], 157.500 Metal and 157.500 Crystal are floating in space. You have harvested 82.500 Metal and 82.500 Crystal.

    API

    rr-en-1-e9ede146bd0b2ffb147f89e33d8d787bc797455f


    Your recycler(s) (5) have a total cargo capacity of 165.000. At the target [7:11:8], 240.000 Metal and 240.000 Crystal are floating in space. You have harvested 82.500 Metal and 82.500 Crystal.

    API

    rr-en-1-22fa912b3720376b8f5b6f84b5f951429d92cdce


    --//--//--//--


    [7:8:15]


    API

    cr-en-1-38e0fbcbb4a36a015ff4713c75fee97539c85595



    On 24-11-2019 09:14:11, the following fleets met in battle:


    Attacker saikano

    ________________________________________________


    Destroyer 1.000

    _________________________________________


    Defender C Wolff [Miners_2]

    ________________________________________________


    Small Cargo 600

    Rocket Launcher 1.259

    Heavy Laser 24

    Plasma Turret 13

    _________________________________________



    After the battle ...


    Attacker saikano

    ________________________________________________


    Destroyer 999 ( -1 )

    _________________________________________


    Defender C Wolff [Miners_2]

    ________________________________________________


    Destroyed!

    _________________________________________



    The attacker has won the battle!


    The attacker captured:

    19.405 Metal, 56.063 Crystal and 0 Deuterium


    The attacker lost a total of 125.000 units.

    The defender lost a total of 6.800.000 units.

    At these space coordinates now float 378.000 metal and 375.000 crystal.

    The attacker captured a total of 75.468 units.


    The chance for a moon to be created from the debris was 7%.

    ________________________________________________


    Debris harvested by the defender(s):

    165.000 Metal and 165.000 Crystal

    115.500 Metal and 115.500 Crystal

    97.500 Metal and 94.500 Crystal


    Total debris harvested by the defender(s):

    378.000 Metal and 375.000 Crystal



    Summary of profit/losses:


    Summary attackers(s)

    Metal: -40.595

    Crystal: 6.063

    Deuterium: -317.716


    THE ATTACKER LOST A TOTAL OF 352.248 units.


    Summary defender(s)

    Metal: -4.153.405

    Crystal: -1.579.063

    Deuterium: -390.000

    The defender(s) lost a total of 6.122.468 units.



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  • Interesting diagnosis XD


    Here is the mine: He is a cheater (unbalanced character, then)

    Non profit battles because he/she gets unlimited DM for free (script)

    24/7 activity because he/she uses a bot with automated tasks, warners, etc

    Uses many other cheats we cannot imagine


    The fact that he/she is attacking players +10 times smaller (for fun only) indicates his/her level of bravery/intelligence.

  • That or an inherited account. Did not have to build it. Not familiar with the game and doesn't mind or understand the losses. They guy or gal is maybe 12.

  • Saikano is an extremely active player with a history of taking apart small accounts. His intent is to turn you into a farm. If it works, it is a worthy investment of time and energy. If you persist in staying alive, its a waste of time and energy. I have watched him chase a great many folks into inactivity and then set up a regular routine farming them. His growth curve is off the charts so the tactic combined with the money he spends is working over all. Contact me in game if you want help dealing with him. A long time have i watched this abomination...

  • I haven't bothered to read much of the conversation but I have this to say.


    Ultimately, each universe is different. Some are more active, some are more passive. Some have more players, some have less players. Some have more targets, some have less targets.


    Also. Some universes have more profitability. Some universes have less. This is crucial. It doesn't even matter what rank you are or how big your fleet is.


    Ultimately, there's 3 ways to gain resources. Mining, trading, raiding. Again. This deviates from universe to universe as to how effective each method is.


    As a result of all the above, and I know this is the case for universe1.org, the profitability is lowered by a congested raiding populace. The result of this is what you see above. If a raid on an active player is more rewarding than a raid on an inactive. There's no real reason why you should raid the inactive still other than because of your playstyle being more passive than aggressive.


    What I'd say as a result to anyone with issues is this. Ask yourself this question. "How can I make myself less of a target?". You might find that the answer is actually pretty straight forward.

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  • Go and make yourself a nice turtle. Then let him bash with his speed fleet all he wants.

    Simple. :maybe.

    Turtling up will bring the player to a level when he start being sloppy and leaves a good amount of ress/fleet behind the wall making him a profitable target.

    People will notice and will start RIPing.

    Then another type of thread will posted on the board: why do people attack turtles :)

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