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    You need to use a lot more than just 6 expeditions. Do 100 of them at the very least to get some nice average results.

    I gained 2x 20 million metal drops + 1x 10 million Crystal drops + 1x 4.5 million Crystal drop + 650 DM in my first 7 Expos. So it's not bad at all.

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    Quote from AstralCodex

    I'm jealous, I just did 8 expos with:

    Delay, delay, nothing, 650 dm, nothing, 10m fleet find, speed up, nothing

    ... Just keep doing them... You will find results.

    I'm doing on my own and will show my results on the excel file I have to all of you. After I do about 100-200 Expos, and will show again after I pass 500.

    Unless... GF changes Discoverer again, which I will find it unnecessary.

    I need Astro 25 first to get those 8 expos. Still at 23 but will work on that after I upgrade my fusions, my energy tech and my mines. Guess it's going to be a while before I resume my Plasma army again.

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    You say that collector is worth it if you miss some days as discoverer, but seriously, if what you said is true if you do 6-7 expos and get 20M that is in 1h what you might get as extra production with the collector in 2 days, where do you see the balance? you push expos like crazy 1 week and you do more than 30 days collector no?

    -- You've met a terrible fate haven't you

    Quote from edgar

    You say that collector is worth it if you miss some days as discoverer, but seriously, if what you said is true if you do 6-7 expos and get 20M that is in 1h what you might get as extra production with the collector in 2 days, where do you see the balance? you push expos like crazy 1 week and you do more than 30 days collector no?

    Not really... Just wait until I get more results.

    The average Resources I was getting in Bermuda were 1.7 million metal + 680k Crystal + 130k Deuterium... And this wasn't that great at all. Since an inactive takes way less time and deuterium for the same resources or sometimes even more.

    I'll post here my results after I do 100 Expos.

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    Quote from edgar

    You say that collector is worth it if you miss some days as discoverer, but seriously, if what you said is true if you do 6-7 expos and get 20M that is in 1h what you might get as extra production with the collector in 2 days, where do you see the balance? you push expos like crazy 1 week and you do more than 30 days collector no?

    Collector has 30-40% more production than discoverer. In the late game, that could easily be 100-150m more a day. You'd have to do 5-6 waves of expos to break even with the current formulas.

    Quote from AstralCodex
    Quote from edgar

    You say that collector is worth it if you miss some days as discoverer, but seriously, if what you said is true if you do 6-7 expos and get 20M that is in 1h what you might get as extra production with the collector in 2 days, where do you see the balance? you push expos like crazy 1 week and you do more than 30 days collector no?

    Collector has 30-40% more production than discoverer. In the late game, that could easily be 100-150m more a day. You'd have to do 5-6 waves of expos to break even with the current formulas.

    well maybe with very very high mines, a guy with mines 42/35/38 (i am 2 levels below that in each) is getting in a eco x7 and 13 planets -> 132.288M extra, well you might be right, but in my case i am quite far from that until i level my energy, fusions and mines, so it might take 1 year if i still play.

    So for me it would be ~way less also cuz i cant not support so many crawlers yet, maybe the best move would be discoverer and -> collector when they add discount events i am sure they will add 50% discount events to move.

    -- You've met a terrible fate haven't you

    so.. testing the 250LC 1 path 1 probe:


    much better again i think guys


    1)

    Battleship: 5
    Heavy Fighter: 375
    Pathfinder: 56
    Large Cargo: 34
    Light Fighter: 2
    Small Cargo: 1


    2)

    Pathfinder: 14
    Cruiser: 38
    Light Fighter: 645
    Espionage Probe: 1813
    Small Cargo: 4


    3)1180 DM


    4 & 5) delay


    6) 786 DM


    Think im sticking with that

    which eco? and class

    -- You've met a terrible fate haven't you

    discoverer and whatever indus is

    I'm still not sure about how the debris in deep space is implemented.

    At the moment there seems little benefit in having the perk. Chance to get pirates/aliens as far as I have seen is much higher than in Leda (although this could be chance of course) and when you get them, they absolutely give you no benefit whatsoever.


    So just to remind everyone, you can still get a lot of nothing on expo's. And to benefit from the debris you need to be better and faster than everyone else around you to profit from it.

    whats up with the marketplace?

    its possible for example to buy 10k dessie for 800m metal and sell for 4,3b deut?

    same with ress, i can buy 100m metal for 70m metal and sell for 400m deut?

    "When we are good they never remember, when we are bad they never forget."

    Also in Janice and all the same problems for me