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Ahh here we go. Lucifer and 2 other accs pushed into Yuksel for a couple weeks, now Yuksel pushes into U557.
Edit: First pic is Mil Lost, second is Mil Score
Some back and forth, looks like U557 sells 600 rips at 120%, then uses the res to buy all of Yuksels speed fleet.
In the end he appears up about 4 billion fleet over a few hours. Seems really fair and balanced
Rank 2 benefits billions off of rank 14, who in turn benefited of a few rank 25-50 accs.
A big old legal pushing pyramid scheme, with rank 2 at the top 
Nice, so far in last 12 hours or so, pushed 8+ billion fleet into rank 2 (32 bil to 40 bil)
This kind of thing should not be possible/allowed via marketplace
Like how to prove it is pushing?
But then again why do 4-5 players sell their fleet at low rates and buy high from rank 2?
In my mind it is clearly manipulating trade rates to give higher ranked player an advantage, but will GOs see it that way?
Yes this should not be allowed, GMs should be looking over at stuff like this.
... How is this different than using the Player to Player method with one player trading at 2:1:1 and the other at 3:2:1???
In fact, here it's easier to spot because it's in the eyes of the public, as well as the fact that other people can get in the way of those same trades first, AND you cannot use a 2:1:1 ratio either(in fact, you can't use a 3:2:1 either), and there's also the fees.
It is as good as it can be. There will ALWAYS exist players pushing others one way or another. Some guys use moons from inactives to leave resources in there for the player who's being pushed to get them, and this cannot be spotted unless you are insane enough to, for the lulz, moon destruct an inactive's moon and lanx the planet seeing both players on their transport and the other on attack missions at almost the same time(with the required cargos to get those resources). ...
EDIT: I probably should've kept my mouth shut about this as I probably have now given an idea for the people who didn't knew about this.
Afaik GOs (doing their job properly) are always alerted when some1 transports res to inactive players, which results in a ban.
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... How is this different than using the Player to Player method with one player trading at 2:1:1 and the other at 3:2:1???
In fact, here it's easier to spot because it's in the eyes of the public, as well as the fact that other people can get in the way of those same trades first, AND you cannot use a 2:1:1 ratio either(in fact, you can't use a 3:2:1 either), and there's also the fees.
It is as good as it can be. There will ALWAYS exist players pushing others one way or another. Some guys use moons from inactives to leave resources in there for the player who's being pushed to get them, and this cannot be spotted unless you are insane enough to, for the lulz, moon destruct an inactive's moon and lanx the planet seeing both players on their transport and the other on attack missions at almost the same time(with the required cargos to get those resources). ...
EDIT: I probably should've kept my mouth shut about this as I probably have now given an idea for the people who didn't knew about this.
If you look at the first post or at the rules in game you may note it is explicitly forbidden to manipulate trade rates like that to push the higher player
But from what GOs have commented here or on discord, basically if it occurs in the marketplace it is fine.
These 2 accounts are still selling back and forth, last 16 hours or so, and every time the higher ranked player comes out further ahead.
I think in the end (after some considerable trading/time) the rank 2 player overall/fleet will have completely gained the rank 7 fleet.
15 billion in fleet to the higher ranked player. Already he is up 8 billion last 2 days,
Yuksel account is down 6 bil, Sky account is down 500 mil, yesterday it was another account doing the same thing
Meanwhile honest active players like me are being left in the dust, because this pushing garbage in the marketplace in the last few weeks.
Afaik GOs (doing their job properly) are always alerted when some1 transports res to inactive players, which results in a ban.
That is clearly not true.
We players may think it should not be allowed but it still is as ppl not banned
Do we get from it that it is allowed?
Not to beat this into the ground too much, but I want it to be abundantly clear to those such as
piink and NoMoreAngel who can provide feedback that this kind of abuse is still happening in the marketplace.
I'm not sure if there needs to be a programmatic solution to this problem,
but at a minumum GOs should ban for this the same as they do for regular trade rate manipulation for pushing
This is from today, combine this with the image from yesterday I posted a few comments ago
and you see 15 billion in gains from trading with the lower account
The amount of pushing in our server Lonestar has been crazy since the update. Last days has been u557, but other people did similar things and I see few saying it... what a joke. Spent one year being constant every day so.... and now people can make half my points in 1 week thanks GF!
I was monitoring the marketplace yesterday night, Eshkiya was selling LFs non stop at max price, some screenshots I took:
Yes the esp has deleted for me now, but Yuksel bought all 1 mil LF
and then U557/Eshkiya account used the res to buy back those 600 rips he sold a couple days ago
I think in the end (after some considerable trading/time) the rank 2 player overall/fleet will have completely gained the rank 7 fleet.
And here we are, rank 2 went from 30 to 48 bil fleet, rank 7 fleet is now rank 50.
For Grimm and people like him it is all good and balanced, cause you may do the same with flexible rates.
The marketplace is a joke, legalized pushing, automatically canceling trades after 3 days resulting in a 25% loss of resources. It is helping the cheaters and hurting those of us that try to play fair.
ye new martketplace is legit push, especially the push accounts, click sell > refresh on main acc > buy. . ez push. legal
isnt it that it is not push if it is legal?
The mods just have to do their job. As Lonestar posted, theres heavy pushing happening... IN THE EYES OF EVERYONE. It's not about the market... otherwise you can say the same about normal player to player trades... with 211 and 321 ratios... and that no one can see if they are done from moon to moon.
