piink says we're allowed to discuss the settings again. Personally I like the settings we're at but I know others want different things so let's have at the discussion
Like I said at baals thread more % df is what we need it works for everyone...
It's probably better to discuss it here. Then it won't get mixed up with all the other things that get said on my thread.
I agree with Charlotte
Bigger percentage of DF.
I think cargoes into df should stay as 30% the way it is
The % of df should increase upto 50% on other fleet
in this way , no miners are affected with the update
With more ress from hits ( people can pay more to buy deuterium as well )
so a win - win for all
I agree with DF% Going up. I mean 30% is ancient now. Even 40% would be much better.
I vote 50%.
Everything else is fine. Although I am never opposed to eco going up to x6 or x7.
Yeah eco going up is def. a bonus....I love my 2 accounts with higher eco's.
Having thought about it a bit and discussed with a few people, I was thinking that maybe carbon is right (i know shocking) with the increase to 50% DF. Id support an eco increase to 6x or 7x.
I know I shouldn't suggest a fleet speed increase to the uni but i was only thinking to double it to 2x. Noticed quite a few unis with 2x fleet speed and high eco speed nowadays. Faster collects and transports are mainly where i'm looking with this.
I don’t mind an increase to df% as long as we’re going to x6 eco and x12 research
I'd vote for eco x3 in uni 1
Eco x6 or x7, 40% or 50% Debris and maybe 0.5 Deut consumption. I feel we should get an all or nothing vote though, where we either get all these setting or none of them so it is balanced for fleeters and miners
Fleet speed should definitely not be increased though
Every fleeter wants bigger df, thats great but we wont get it without the miner vote as they greatly outnumber fleeters...
So I say to tie the vote together: x6 (or x7) eco AND 50% df
But not one without the other just yes or no. Just my opinion
I would vote for 7x eco!
Eco to x6 or x7 to bring us in line with some of the other servers seems logical - after all, at some point it's likely those uni's will merge with ours.
As for an increase in DF I'm quite sceptical....
With the General Class for instance, The remote Wreckfield, cheaper fuel and Reaper auto harvest make for a significant reduction in costs and losses. Incresing the DF% could make it very hard not to make a profit on any sort of crash. If thats what we all want of course?
The biggest problem I have with all the changes of late is we're losing the sense of danger - The risk of losing a significant amount of ones time and effort. This is the addictive part that has kept me going regularly the past decade+
With the relative cost of building and operating ships now so cheap, and an ever more significant part of losses easilly recoverable where do we end up?
Bored most likely
yeah lordy but u forget that miners have it easy when they lose their cargo fleet with res its not a big deal for them its minor setback
most of fleeters dont have that big mines and they risk a lot with each flight and everything for little benefit in this uni
getting more eco without benefit for fleeters is a no for me, cause we already got one like that previously
Also i doubt that a lot of ppl are using general when disco is as op as it is atm
For the economy boost argument. Yes before we got the 5x boost people were whining about it. When we got it they quieted down pretty quick. The reasoning behind the boost was simple, when other Uni's get merged into this Uni with us we are going to be playing catch up due to our lower economy issues. And during the last merge we seen this. Some pretty large accounts came here to Uni. 1 and here we are playing catch up (and playing pretty well at it too). Now that we have that 5x economy boost its going to be easier for GF to move maybe a 6x or 7x into Uni. 1 in the future. Do we really want to be playing catch up with say WarMachine?.....Now granted I don't foresee Quantum moving into Uni. 1 but I'm sure you get my point.
To give some further perspective I have an account that was in Andro and was moved into Quantum during the last merge. That account had half of the points my Uni. 1 account had at the time of the merge. My Quantum account has passed my Uni. 1 account in points (and I literally have no fleet in over there my points are all economy).
Some good points indeed.
A lot of the newer uni's seemed to me about giving new players a leg-up for a competetive chance in later mergers. However the unbalance of it all has led to younger accounts overwhelming much older ones so It's natural we're going to desire a more level playing field. But does this next mean fleet speed multipliers and defence into debris later on?
With the increased Economy comes yet another big bump in pathfinder expedition riches. This is fast making Expo's and idle farming the dominant provider of universe resource creation. And what gets turned into ships, most gets turned back into debris and wreck fields when smashed.
I'm actually fast going off the thought of building any more mines - maybe thats a positive thing!
Just keep in mind if we want x7 eco we have to go from x10 research down to x7. It might be worth our while to just go x6 and go from x 10 to x12 on research.
I'm OK with all the suggestions so far.
No Def in to Debris or fleet speed multiplier jumps... (1X only) for UNI 1
No probes with cargo space...
6X-7X eco, 50-70% db fields
Reduce (eco rate * 33%??) the discoverer's eco multiplier to rebalance the classes.
So sad to see fleeters out attacking dumb/weaker Ai opponents.
Tools for the GO's to actively hunt bots!
1x eco, 5x fleet. FU uni 1 lol!