this new class destroys totally game, especially in new unis, there is no worth to build mines no worth to send attacks when you get many many profits from the expedition, in one found maybe like 10-20 days daily production, that's just too stupid and the game become only lottery and expedition. no more thinking where to invest ress to get more back and searching targets,just expo all the time and big easy (unfair) profit...
discover class destroy game
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It's not a empire at war game anymore. It's a god damn slot machine...
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Its never been better if you ask me.
Brings people to stay more active, ressourcer thrive in the universe.
You still can do hits, and people actually do make to build ther planets and moons in a resonable time =) -
I agree with you except I think old unis are more hit by this change than new unis.
New unis will be temporarily broken until they merge into old unis where lots of players will be stronger than rank 1.
The problem is old unis where damage has been done, there's no more merge and as long as this uni is destination uni, there's no fixing it, and there never will be a fix. Also, it's my reason to quit OGame.
Just think about it, remove expo DF, how are those who are behind going to make up the point difference, better question is, when? In 20 years, 30?
I got crashed last May, and I thought to myself "I will build mines until I feel this fleet that I have lost is just pennies". I built mines pretty much until now, and it's not huge but in Fenrir 12x39/32/34 is pretty good.
In fact I'm pretty sure I was number 2 or 3 eco based on mines until whole expo DF fiesta started, based on my calculations, I could restore the lost fleet in about 3-4 days now, if you count farming, in fact I'd get better fleet than what I had easily in that time.
The problem is, I can't compete. 11 months of my work all goes down the drain. I don't want to be rank 1 or anything, but the reality is I won't be rank 500 if I don't choose to do expo in an uni with 500 active players who choose this kind of gameplay.
I won't go into details, as Crvt and a lot of other people have already stated in time what needs to be done. Everything can be read.
What has GF done about this? Nothing. Stomt? lol. "Devs actually read stomt guys!" even though there hasn't been one Stomt suggestion that's actually been applied to the game.
There's also been by now hundreds of posts complaining on how current gameplay works. How many of those posts have been forwarded to devs by CoMas? Or has it just been forwarded to the same people who take a week to implement hyperspace cargo bonus? If so great, we can really expect a fix by my grandson's wedding (I'm 25 btw).
Last 5 updates were marketplace related, which is still broken and it's pretty clear the idea behind the marketplace has always been there and GF has always been aware it will be #1 pushing tool, so the changes itself were only technical, but marketplace pushing is a new reality and the idea has indeed been deployed correctly.
Gameforge doesn't know what it wants out of OGame nor what direction the game should go.
The update isn't near finished, a lot of things aren't working correctly, under the hood maybe, but compared to v6, or lightblue ogame which official version number I don't remember are miles ahead of this mess.
Servers are crashing, new unis barely work from what I read. That didn't stop GF from creating new P2W tools such as 40% 90 day boosters and similar stupid bullshit.
GF should be ashamed for what they did to this game that I loved so much. So many people have invested a lot more than me, hundreds, thousands of dollars, thousands of hours and for what?
This is the thank you an average long time player gets from Gameforge for being loyal in times when browser games are only a subject of laughter and nothing else?
New update has brought nothing but frustration and depression for me, update hype was followed quickly by that weird pain in your guts that you feel when you realize you just lost something you really liked.
On the other hand, I get a social life now, and I'm off OCrack (hopefully).
All in all, we'll see. What was ruined is ruined, even if they remove expo df everyone is going to scrap their ships and that's when the real fun starts and people start realizing true damage done, when those cargos and LFs turn into reaper and RIP fleets no one will be able to take down. Certain players will be literal gods in their universe.
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There's actually no worth to play this game anymore. Every uni is the same. Bunch of bots and everyone doing expo. Trill of the hunt is gone. If you want to play pve game there's plenty of those that are way better in it then ogame.
Worst thing is, everyone is ignoring the talk about botting. Some inside sht going on or what? Whatever
Ogame was always about PvP, the hunt, the plays.
Now we have the game where's more profitable by a large margin to just do expo then do hits.
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Yup, and you forgot bots doing expo all day and all night. Can't beat them and you can only look at how they're growing at terrific rates.
Couldn't have put it better, in fact all this wall of text I wrote above could have been put into one simple sentence you said, there is no worth in playing this game anymore...
As for ignoring talks about botting, this is why I don't talk about it anymore.
We had a player block his and his ally's systems with accounts that had all same exact mine levels, all multis selling him fleet. All accounts named in this pattern: Engineer Mizar01, Geologist Virgo02 etc.
Player had activity 0-24, lifted fleet always within minutes of getting hit etc.
As for multis, literally no planets outside suspicious player's systems.
I took about 3.5 hours to dig through mmorpgstat, pulled a bunch of stats, explanations to which I got a reply and please don't hold your coffee in front of you while you read this: "it's possible that all these 7 identical accounts are just friends who randomly and not on purpose moved into this player's system".
The player quit eventually, all 7 accounts going into vmode with him, even his allymate confessed after quitting that all of his ally was using illegal software and again, this was not enough evidence for game team.
I complained, of course, but nope, no matter how higher up you take it. No one really cares.
In fact just today I witnessed a serious IRL threat go unpunished and that's made up my mind. When one day, because of this stupid game my life is in potential danger, this stupid "corporation" isn't going to take necessary steps to prevent someone from harming me.
If they don't take real life threats seriously, it's a good picture of who we're dealing with.
They don't give a damn about players. The only right step is to quit, in my eyes, and that's exactly what I will do.
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Ogame was always about PvP, the hunt, the plays.
Was...that's the key word here. This isn't "then" anymore, the old days of oGame in the numbered unis with thousands of players for years at a time is gone. If that (dwindling player base) had been addressed properly with a strategic marketing team that knew how to sell a pig wearing lipstick, than GF wouldn't need to spruce it up with free candy. At this point I don't think GF could convince people with free hookers and piles of blow to play oGame.
Personally, I don't mind the expos...I'm capitazling on it like most everyone else that realized the potentia; adapt, evolve, & overcome. It's kept me interestested and engaged in the game for the time being at least.
Lots of people making statements about the "hunt", the "skill", and what not but if you don't have a target rich environment to practice those skills or have something to hunt, what's the point of complaining about it?
I think we're just going to see more bandaids to stop the hemoraging, I would bet that we'll see domain mergers and not just server mergers (there are countries with servers much worse off than .org servers so why not merge all of us together, language barriers be damned).
For some reason attracting new players just doesn't seem like much of a priority...
EDIT: And since we're all probably practicing social distancing or working remotely...we should make this a drinking game and every new topic created about Discoverers you should have to drink a bottle of Rakia (or equivalent).
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Expo is essentially binary, you either get a fight or not. It comes to that in late game so not much fun for me there after a number of expos done.
But for me it was all about hunting and feeling the thrill so wanting to quit was inevitable, that's another problem, acting like merge is black magic and something undoable, but that's a whole another topic with a lot to be said as well.
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For me, it’s completely ruined the game. I’m an inch from finally being rid, but I don’t want to let my ally mates down.
ACS encourages teamwork and hunting of big prizes. A great team builds for the next hit, together. Expos have made it a single player game. Allies are irrelevant to your growth and everyone is just spamming cargos and LF.
Over the time period of running combat expos in 1x deut, I’m yet to profit (using the standard well reported ratio). My last calculations are that I’m down around 5 billion deut equivalents. My BH percentage is a bit higher than expected but the rest are essentially bang on. It also made my fleet unavailable because I was spamming expos. Some players get lucky with it. Or it’s a good way of masking alternative pushing strategies.Bot accounts are building then selling ships to other players. So what is the point in trying any more. The game is now so far from what it was and I’ve very little interest in changing again. I tried, and it wasn’t fun anymore.
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All you wrote is the exact reason why i asked for a rework when they released it.
I thinked "for sure i'm not the only one that recognized it"...but...
Now we all agree. Now we all know GF doesn't care.
This is the reason why i suggest you to quit or continue f2p only.
Shame on you GF! Shame on you!
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Nerf EXPO DF!!!
There's a guy out there with his name just like this^ and he's already up in the billion mark in terms of growth for the past months... But he at least realizes how broken not having a cap on expo DF is.
This is just ridiculous.
At the end of the game, the top fleeter is going to have 1 billion LFs alongside 500 million Cargos and not much of any other type of fleet lol. Why bother actually? -
Yeah, that's Crvt on forums if I'm not mistaken.
Don't you understand Grimm? 90 day 40% boosters are what this game needs, they will bring balance and solve all our problems, not server fixes, not balance fixes, only boosters.
Can't wait another six months so we get 180 day 50% boosters, it's gonna be a blast!
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Yeah, that's Crvt on forums if I'm not mistaken.
Don't you understand Grimm? 90 day 40% boosters are what this game needs, they will bring balance and solve all our problems, not server fixes, not balance fixes, only boosters.
Can't wait another six months so we get 180 day 50% boosters, it's gonna be a blast!
The problem is that they do good things in a wrong way, at the wrong time.
By the way, that player is a genius! Respect to him.
Grimm we bother cause he can do fleet even.
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Ofc he is a genius. He's using the system as GF allowed him and everyone one of us to do so. Props to him.
I however can't do the same as him because if I had millions of LFs laying around I would get murdered, and I also wouldn't have many deut suppliers to send such large fleets on expos every 1h and 15 minutes or so. -
I mean, he is a genius for the name.
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Someone posted this, he said he runs 8 expos of 175K BCs per wave.
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