I don't care if GameForge is calling the server miner, fleeter or balanced.

I'm going to vote against a fleet speed increase, because I don't want stuff to happen faster.

I will however vote for a fleet speed decrease to x1, since that'll make things more pleasant.

I would also like if the speed was 3x as we came from. This merge destroyed the way i have "build" up my planets. Because of the new flight time, i need to relocate 4-5 planets, and to be forced to do that from the GF, is like we are forced to use money. That's not cool. This can not be the first time the problem has been up when a merge has been done.

But when that's said, everything else and how this is done, is more positive thant expected.

Moved here from Norma (4x Fleet / 6x Economy / 12x Researchspeed) - I didn't want to deal with a 6x fleet speed uni either, so took the slower option. I'm actually happy to have had the option to slow down tbh, especially as it should be more active with everyone moving in.

I think the settings lean towards miners here but I don't know if you've noticed that it's 50% less deut costs for fuel, which is something Leda didn't have. That's definitely a big thing for fleeters, so probably does balance things a bit.

Oh man here we go with this bullshit again. You guys merged here, you want more fleet speed you should've choose obereon so take your fleet speed increase talk and shove it where the sun don't shine!

They should allow to us to go to same fleet speed not come to this stupid uni xd

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Oh man here we go with this bullshit again. You guys merged here, you want more fleet speed you should've choose obereon so take your fleet speed increase talk and shove it where the sun don't shine!

Wow, what a good constructive post and what a nice tone. Nice to meet people who really know how to hold a debate and conversation on a respectable level.

Btw, there is a big difference from 3x to 6x speed. We where forced to choose between those to, while Zibal, from my understanding have not been forced to anything, else than better research speed.
I have not choosed this univers, we was forced to choose between 2 things that was different what we have choosed and what some of us have spent a little money on.
So maybe it would be nice to meet or listen to those who are force to move and possibly to have to spend money because they are forced to do something. It's only a talk not a demand!!

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I think the settings lean towards miners here but I don't know if you've noticed that it's 50% less deut costs for fuel, which is something Leda didn't have. That's definitely a big thing for fleeters, so probably does balance things a bit.

Your are right on that point.

They should allow us to chose bellatrix and that will solve the problem

A idea was to let people who have marge, having 7 days to make 2 or 3 free relocations, when the speed is changes. That would be nice. This kind of changes, could have huge impact on how we need to FS.

Zibal is 2.5 years old, Leda is 1 year old

Rather than discussing changing Zibals settings and affecting those who have already been playing there for 2.5 years

You should probably complain about the merge target options you were given, although it is too late

Lonestar gets it. And to those that don't like my tone. I've played he since day 1, you are coming here and within a day asking for changes, not minor but major changes like fleet speed, so please kindly STFU

I'm with threeflipskat3r, and I honestly hate the guy. Can't stand him

The options were a x2 speed fleet uni and a x5 speed fleet uni

Less than 24 hours in people are requesting to go from x2 to x3, x4?

You have joined the wrong uni. I am expecting a lot of x1 fleets to come here who I'm gutted for because they've already be fucked over by GF without a x1 option.

It's clear GF don't get that players pick the fleet speed of a uni to suit RL commitments.

You'll honestly be wasting a vote which they uni might need in 6 months

Personally I don't see a problem with the specs here in Zibal vs the other target Uni at all. I get where you're coming from being forced to change, but there can't be options for every variety of uni specs to pick from, or we'd almost certainly all end up in the same universes prior to the merge. You were tasked with picking the lesser of two evils in this situation, and we are absorbing those who pick our specs over the other. We didn't even get a choice, so I hardly see how it's fair to demand changes day 1.

Again, I do empathize with everyone, but you have to also see it from our point of view. We don't get to decide who comes here, and we certainly shouldn't be forced to fleet speed changes either. It goes both ways, but at least you had the choice to pick between the two. Merges are inherently never going to be perfect.

Edit: Both Aquarius and Virgo are x1 fleet servers, and bumping up our speed leaves 2 entire uni's subject to a pretty drastic change. I don't see how they really could've made many more people happy with the 2 targets.

Just my two cents.

I will probably be arriving here soon from a x1 speed server, so see this from the other end, rather than this simply making my game less "fun" by being a bit slower I'm going to have to adjust to things being twice as fast as before.

Do I want Zibal to go to x1 speed? Absolutely not.

Zibal didn't choose to be a target server and changing their settings is just as unfair as not having suitable merge options. You dont fix the problem by shifting it onto a different group of players. You're guests here now, have some manners.

Apex  Firestorm ... if we were forced to vote then I'd push for the options to be x1 or x2. Never x3, or above.

I feel this thread is slowly going to become pointless. A vote will happen and a small group are going to be disappointed. Some/most to the point where they'll just perma vmode.

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Do I want Zibal to go to x1 speed? Absolutely not.

I doubt we would mind going to x1 but I am sure most (thats like 8 or 9 :D) would mind going higher. Even 2x fleet speed is not healthy long term if you ask me. But you can outvote Zibal players easily when there is like 10 of us left. That is the reason why we are target universe. The point of this merge is to upset as many players possible so they have to use merge items later. And if you upset 10 players from Zibal you would probably earn 10 bucks or less. I doubt there will be any polls about server setting available anyway so this thread is a waste of time like most of the threads on this forum.

But we could try. Maybe you get entire Virgo merge into Zibal and ask for a change to x1 fleet speed?

I love how if apex doesn't agree with a point he calls it useless when Firestorm actually made probably the most valid point yet. Zibal being 2x is a happy medium of all the unis merging here, and not only are higher speeds but also lower speed unis are joining. If you want a vote for 3x or 4x then you have to include an option for 1x as well. And as King Julian said good luck getting 80% votes 😆

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I'm with threeflipskat3r, and I honestly hate the guy. Can't stand him

The options were a x2 speed fleet uni and a x5 speed fleet uni

Less than 24 hours in people are requesting to go from x2 to x3, x4?

You have joined the wrong uni. I am expecting a lot of x1 fleets to come here who I'm gutted for because they've already be fucked over by GF without a x1 option.

It's clear GF don't get that players pick the fleet speed of a uni to suit RL commitments.

You'll honestly be wasting a vote which they uni might need in 6 months

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king julian , Option was between x2 here and x6 Oberon.

When I check the current servers open and running, I see 2 other servers with x3 fleet matching more closely the settings from Leda.

Moving on from that, I logically think this Server we are place into is still supposed to be a substitute of my old server right?

Now I check the forum of this Server I don't find much information about what people would like or dislike on this Server, HENCE, creating the thread. I though we were placed here as we were matching current player population and asking if peoples on the Server were keen into increasing fleet speed.

It was just a logical thinking, I was not thinking there would be some very low IQ answering this way with very poor arguments...

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Personally I don't see a problem with the specs here in Zibal vs the other target Uni at all. I get where you're coming from being forced to change, but there can't be options for every variety of uni specs to pick from, or we'd almost certainly all end up in the same universes prior to the merge. You were tasked with picking the lesser of two evils in this situation, and we are absorbing those who pick our specs over the other. We didn't even get a choice, so I hardly see how it's fair to demand changes day 1.

Again, I do empathize with everyone, but you have to also see it from our point of view. We don't get to decide who comes here, and we certainly shouldn't be forced to fleet speed changes either. It goes both ways, but at least you had the choice to pick between the two. Merges are inherently never going to be perfect.

Edit: Both Aquarius and Virgo are x1 fleet servers, and bumping up our speed leaves 2 entire uni's subject to a pretty drastic change. I don't see how they really could've made many more people happy with the 2 targets.

Just my two cents.

ChuckBiscuits , I am not asking for new servers, just to be placed in a server-like I chose when creating the account, which exists and would have seem to be a more logical choice.

I am asking if peoples in this Server are sharing the same demands. Happy with your two cents and make sense when explained.

With the few answers exposing real arguments I understand that you are happy with the current settings and it's just the minority not being able to adapt to this. Fair enough.

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I will probably be arriving here soon from a x1 speed server, so see this from the other end, rather than this simply making my game less "fun" by being a bit slower I'm going to have to adjust to things being twice as fast as before.

Do I want Zibal to go to x1 speed? Absolutely not.

Zibal didn't choose to be a target server and changing their settings is just as unfair as not having suitable merge options. You dont fix the problem by shifting it onto a different group of players. You're guests here now, have some manners.

Firestorm , Once again very poor - off topic post.

This thread is about asking for the opinion of the existing population of the Server and try to understand where this server is coming from and going to.

Please have some manners and read a thread from beginning to the end before replying..

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My post was neither poor, nor off topic. I just disagreed with you.

I for one am a little sick of these server settings threads - as threeflipskat3r rightly points out not only is x2 what we all expected when we merged here but x2 is probably a happy medium between where we are all coming from.

If you still feel victimised by the speed setting it is always open to you to use the forthcoming merge item and go to Bellatrix.