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- AR 137 (Kallisto): 2x Fleet, 8x Economy, 5 galaxies, 50% DF, 70% DiDF, 0.5 Deut consumption, +30 fields, +25,000 DM, Category: Balanced

- CZ 153 (Aquarius): 3x Fleet, 8x Economy, 16x Research, 6 galaxies, 80% DF, 0.6 Deu consumption, +30 fields, + 25,000 DM, Category: Fleeter

- DE 175 (Weywot): 4x Fleet, 4x Economy, 16x Research, 5 galaxies, 50% DF, 0.5 Deut consumption, +30 fields, +25,000 DM, Category: Fleeter

- DK 141 (Oberon): 5x Fleet, 8x Economy , 16x Research, 4 galaxies, 70% DF, 0.5 deut consumption, +30 fields, +25,000 DM, Category: Fleeter

- EN 174 (Volans): 4x Fleet, 8x Economy, 16x Research, 6 galaxies, 80% DF, 0.5 deut consumption, +30 fields, Category: Fleeter

- ES 175 (Weywot): 1x Fleet, 6x Economy, 12x Research, 5 galaxies, 70% DF, 0.7 Deut consumption, +25 fields, Category: Miner

- FR 177 (Ymir) : 2x Fleet, 8x Economy, 5 galaxies, 30% DF, +30 fields, Espionage probe capacity: ON, Category: Miner

- GR 131 (Eridanus): 2x Fleet, 4x Economy, 8x Research, 5 galaxies, 70% DF, 0.7 deut consumption, +25 fields, Category: Balanced

- HU 141 (Oberon): 1x Fleet, 1x Economy, 2x Research, 4 galaxies, 80% DF, 80% DiDF, +10 fields, ACS: OFF, Espionage probe capacity: ON, Category: Miner

- IT 174 (Volans) : 2x Fleet, 5x Economy, 10x Research, 5 galaxies, 60% DF, 0.7 Deut consumption, +25 fields, +25,000 DM, Category: Balanced

- NL 142 (Polaris): 1x Fleet, 8x Economy, 7 galaxies, 30% DF, +30 fields, +25,000 DM, Category: Miner

- PL 174 (Volans): 1x Fleet, 5x Economy, 10x Research. 6 galaxies, 30% DF, 30% DiDF, 0.7 Deu consumption, +25 fields, Category: Miner

- PT 146 (Tarazed): 2x Fleet, 8x Economy, 16x Research, 5 galaxies, 50 DF, +30 fields, Espionage probe capacity: ON, +25,000 DM, Category: Miner

- RU 169 (Quasar): 1x Fleet, 8x Economy, 16x Research, 4 galaxies, 80% DF, 30% DiDF, 0.5 deut consumption, +30 fields, Category: Miner

- TR 172 (Tucana): 1x Fleet, 8x Economy , 16x Research, 6 galaxies, 60% DF, 0.5 deut consumption, +25 fields, +25,000 DM, Category: Miner

- US 165 (Mensa): 3x Fleet, 5x Economy, 15x Research, 50% DF, 5 galaxies, 80 % deuterium consumption, +10 fields, + 25k DM, Category: Fleeter

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so what now, go to gmail, create 10 emails and ofc start with 10 acc , because why not , and try to fill 4 solar system with only your multi accs , in the middle you put one that wil be the throne of your empire,

You have to realise that if some one was too: ''create 10 accounts'' they will literally dedicate their whole life in no-lifing, micro-managing 10 accounts to make them worth it... 2-4 multis is doable, but still a lot of time to get mines/ defences to deter other bashing raiders etc....

100% this.

I mean, given the speed of this universe, many people will find it hard enough to keep up with one account let alone 2-4.

Yet, blackbeard wants to run with 10?

And I thought I had no life being a Game Admin...

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Ive just given you sarcastic example, i think that no multi should be allowed in this game, there is few options to break multi rule, team viewer, vpn faker , and if GO isnt taking into consideration device ID you can on your dual sim smartphone play two acc with diferent IP , ive never been GO so i wouldnt know if they check device ID and ive never tryed it myself.

Its just reality of this game that you cant fully stop multi!

But allow it in one uni is just unreasonable

But the silliest thing is that this chaos uni will in time join others.

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I mean if we are going to be honest the players doing 10 accs wont be playing them, they will be running bots. Hell even in Zibal post merge, some loon starting filling gal 8 with dozens and dozens of accounts in a 100ss area, running automated expos and farming them, though thankfully they were eventually banned. Just like what happened to Leda, which had possibly the most blatant pushing networks I can conceive and those accounts weren't banned for months. Even then these accounts were not perma-banned. A few week vacation. A slap on the wrist for building a top 20 account in .org by pushing. A favorite of mine are accounts in new unis that are so... active that they dont have defenses, or even have to fs for months on end other than when launched upon.

I came back to Ogame ~ 2 years ago, and in that time it has become clear botting is a serious epidemic. I know the team will reply and say they take all accusations of cheating seriously but for a time I was in an ally with cheaters and I reported several of them. I had account names, methods, screenshots of conversations that corresponded with bot accs getting hit. Nothing came from my tickets, and most of them are still playing those accounts 1.5 years later in post-merge unis. Knowing I can't get cheaters banned admitting they cheat and how they do it is part of what killed my drive for this game.

I wont go and call all GOs corrupt, but I am pretty confident some of them turn blind eyes on friends they know from previous unis. I even contacted game admins both current and former about the GOs I thought the evidence was so blatant that the GOs had to be corrupt to not ban the offenders. In the last year alone I wasted countless hours on MMORPG. People lie all the time, but statistics can be pretty damning. They show cases most would call clear pushing, but my ally and I have made tickets to no avail.

Things like two top accounts, account A and account B are in an alliance

The uni dies down, acc B goes inactive for a couple months.

One day acc B leaves the alliance, goes active a day or two then back to v mode

3 weeks later acc B comes out of V mode and gets crashed by acc A for 10s of billions in profit, we are talking new top 10 or even new number 1 solo hits

Acc B goes inactive indefinitely, account A never posts their hit despite posting other hits/top tens.

I spent a ton of time reporting a group of 7 accs in Europa that were pushing a ton using the MP when it first launched. Blatant, back and forth trading that stripped each of the accs bare every day, pushing into rank 50, who eventually became top 10 and then pushed into rank 2. The team didnt care, defended it as GF saying anything via MP is fair game, and that was the stance for almost a year until merge time came.

Its easy to say GF dropped the ball on 7.0 in a lot of ways, but I think a fair bit of criticism can be laid at the feet of the team and the COMAs and how they handled the situations that arose during 2020. Then the merge came along and suddenly the COMA started banning accounts for abusing MP. I would say it is suuuuper late, but a laudable attempt except for what happened to one of my ally mates. He was banned for MP abuse despite absorbing NO accounts, abusing nothing. The team literally didnt even have proof, they ASKED him to prove how he could have an account so large. He had to prove how he built his account using messages and images from discord conversations stretching back 6 months to prove any MP trades he made actually benefited the smaller players. They were building him ships with the resources he sent them to begin with, from fighting pirates. He sent additional res along with the MP trades so at the end they could queue the same ships again. The team stalled. And stalled. And stalled. And eventually graciously unbanned him and made it seem a huge favor they didnt leave him perma-banned for something he didnt do. All of this despite several of us literally having ticket responses confirming that any trade made through the MP rates was legal.

It honestly got pretty gross after a while, felt futile to waste my time trying to keep the game clean from the player side. It feels like I spent 10's of hours, maybe 100+ trying to make clear cut tickets for the GOs, for nothing to come from it except a canned response. "We will investigate the situation but due to data protection reasons we won't be able to disclose the results of those investigations." I've read it so many times I don't even have to look the shit up anymore. And when I mean nothing, I mean nothing. I think I have gotten 4-5 players banned for about 2 weeks each time, maybe 10 times in total.

So now to come here to the forum after being V mode for ~6 weeks and see a post on a 'Chaos' uni

Knowing that the last universe that did this eventually merged with honest players...

It feels like GF has even given up pretending they try to fight pushing/multis etc.

Another nail in my coffin, I doubt I will ever return in any serious capacity.

Its a shame, its a fun game but the thing that really keeps me going is the people I play with, and all of our motivations have steadily declined along with the state of the game.

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1. No GO turns a blind eye to friends from previous universes. In fact, every one of my GOs have banned somebody they know because I get the tickets full of tears.

2. We have to follow strict guidelines which have been provided to us by Gameforge. If we can prove a case within those guidelines, we apply the administrative sanction provided to us by Gameforge for the offense. We are not able to alter those administrative sanctions.

3. Allow me to reassure you - if you have put in 10's of hours, my GOs have put in 100's of hours combing through the data trying to meet the burden of proof. It is easy to make accusations and then complain the GOs do nothing. Harder is actually being a GO trying to keep a universe clean and having to put up with the accusations from the unknowing who feel a need to complain.

Is the system perfect?

No.

Everyday we fight to try and make it better.

The only person who has given up is apparently you.

Hello, I'm currently a SGO from .fr community and I heard today about this new chaos universe. I have to admit, I was very disappointed to heard about as I hoped, with the new merge item (if it comes out one day), that this kind of universe will never be a thing again.

We had the same kind of universes in our community last year, Universe Tucana (the x10 eco one but without multi allowed), and Merkur. When the merge item was announced we decided to end this heresy as it could be very unfair to regular player to see "push boosted" account coming out of nowhere on their regular universes. Merkur was merged in the last merge (x1 eco, so the top 1 didn't have more than 300M) and rules were restablished in Tucana.

What motivates me to create an account on this board and write this message is that I was actually the GO of Tucana during these dark times. And what I can tell from this experience ? It was, by far, my worst experience as a GO, if you give a inch to a cheater he'll take a mile. I had never seen as much cheating on an universe. Some people were running bots in an industrial way to be pushed more than other players, some others were selling accounts and ressources as your baker sells bread. It was by far my worst experience as a GO.

As I said, motivate by the announcemment of the merge item, we decided to reinstate rules in this universe and I have to admit I am very sad to discover that this will happen again and I really hope that it will be better for you than for us.

I don't want to affraid you about it more than you are, but I really think it is a bad idea. On an other hand, we are used to bad ideas from GF these day, no ?

kewlness asked Is the system perfect !!! im glad you admit it is not,this game is a mess,and so is the ban system, I have seen players justify why they were wrongly banned but still they stayed banned,i have played in unis and provided proof of pushing and players multi accounting,selling accounts they just recently crashed,screenshots from discord, only to be told we are looking into it,and nothing happening to said player , im not sure what has changed on the GO side,but i have spoken to former GOs that have stated to me they can see everything that happens on any given account at ant given time,so I as why some are banned and soime are not,and some are banned for explainable reason that you can see,there is alot of work to be done to improve this game,and it starts with Gameforge,and the GOs, im not sure coupon codes for DM is enough to keep this game honest !!!!

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kewlness asked Is the system perfect !!! im glad you admit it is not,this game is a mess,and so is the ban system, I have seen players justify why they were wrongly banned but still they stayed banned,i have played in unis and provided proof of pushing and players multi accounting,selling accounts they just recently crashed,screenshots from discord, only to be told we are looking into it,and nothing happening to said player , im not sure what has changed on the GO side,but i have spoken to former GOs that have stated to me they can see everything that happens on any given account at ant given time,so I as why some are banned and soime are not,and some are banned for explainable reason that you can see,there is alot of work to be done to improve this game,and it starts with Gameforge,and the GOs, im not sure coupon codes for DM is enough to keep this game honest !!!!

In my experience, what most people perceive as cheating is not...in most cases, it's just that they can't accept that someone is better at the game than they are and they let their imagination get the better of them so they fill their brain with fantasy so they can accept it. I was accused of cheating, constantly...a lot, I mean it was relentless. One of the reasons why I include my trademark slogan "Still PAGAN! Still standing. Still making money and still not banned M'FRs!" in every HoF post I make. My haters in Dorado just couldn't fathom that I was better than them at the game.

Screenshots of communications regardless of the format is useless...we can edit a screenshot to say whatever we want. If you'd like I can generate a screenshot of Kewlness sending me a Discord chat telling me how sexy I am. And while it is true that I am a sexy beast, that doesn't necessarily make it true that Kewlness sent me a Discord chat telling me I am (though I wish he would).

Also, disinformation is a beautiful tool. Players might want you to think they're cheating. Even if they send you an ingame PM that says "You'll never catch me because I use the Kewl bot", that's not grounds for a ban. You might think they're admitting to cheating...but they could just be baiting you into believing they are. Why? Because then maybe you'll do something dumb like send your whole fleet to attack them via an espionage mission or fly through activity markers thinking they're using a bot or script. So they may "plant" Discord chats or "screenshots" of communications hoping the right person sees it and shares it as a strategy.

Some people will even use your own lanx against you...letting "you" see what "they" want you to see to make you think something shady is going on.

Sure, people cheat...but I think it's occurring a lot less than people believe. More often than not I believe the accuser just doesn't understand the rules or even the game "mechanics" and how to play within the rules, how to dot those "i"s or cross those "t"s, how to walk up to that line without crossing it.

And then on the flipside of that, I usually roll my eyes just a little at people when they come to the defense of someone who has been accused of cheating or even banned with comments like "I've known Kewlness for 3 years and played in multiple unis and alliances with him and he has never cheated!!! He's an honorable player who would never do that!"

Do you really know Kewlness that well? Do you live with him? Did you grow up with him in real life? How do you know what Kewlness does behind that screen name? Why? Because you had long, deep, meaningful conversations in Discord? He could be a sociopath and a mass murderer for all you really know.

Note: There is no "Kewl" bot, Kewlness is most likely not a sociopath or a mass murderer, etc. I just used his name in my fictitious examples and hypothetical scenarios. However, it is true that I'm a sexy beast.

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Sure, people cheat...but I think it's occurring a lot less than people believe. More often than not I believe the accuser just doesn't understand the rules or even the game "mechanics" and how to play within the rules, how to dot those "i"s or cross those "t"s, how to walk up to that line without crossing it.

Lot less is because player base is seriously reduced

I looked at the statistics of Dorado Universe so was a bit disappointed about player base there

Lets say data are app ... player base app - 1051 players ...correct me if I am wrong please

- 923-1051 - 0 points

- 890-922 - 1 point

- 801-889 - btw. 2-36 points

- 686-800 - less than 1,000 points

- 445-686 - less than 10.000 points

- 289-445 - less than 1 mil points

And a lot of players in blue mode ... so yes everything is matter of perception which includes a number of ch3aters too ... unpunished or punished very shortly and no I don't have a problem to admit if someone is better than me and yes I know ch3aters unpunished ,and the way they ch3ated

Knowing mechanics of the game in this cases is totally irrelevant plus if You play any Uni for some amount of time and someone rapidly increases than You know who is who as a player

Still the number of honest players is way too bigger and they left or will leave

So when the people accuse You for ch3ating it , only, means that there are some envy people in game and not that ch3aters are properly punished

And Cyyoung guy didn't mention kewlness in personal context but as a Game staff member

Happy gaming and have a nice day/night to all

Miss Daisy S.

I think the most disappointing thing about the Dorado player base is....

Pre merger 29 active

After merge 420+

Now 220

I appreciate that the econ is probably as mush to blame as the merger.

Hello ppl. We invite everyone in new universe Quasar in .ru comunity, chaos universe with changed game rules. Even better, the rules of universe will change every week. Details https://board.ru.ogame.gamefor…ostID=2012744#post2012744

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Hello ppl. We invite everyone in new universe Quasar in .ru comunity, chaos universe with changed game rules. Even better, the rules of universe will change every week. Details https://board.ru.ogame.gamefor…ostID=2012744#post2012744

i like to join but i dont anderstand any russian letter

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Hello ppl. We invite everyone in new universe Quasar in .ru comunity, chaos universe with changed game rules. Even better, the rules of universe will change every week. Details https://board.ru.ogame.gamefor…ostID=2012744#post2012744

Could you provide an English translation of that post (maybe in a spoiler)?

I think if chaos uni setting is available too often then it is a bad idea, but having it once in a while is perfectly fine and fun. So why not try it out for fun?

From my experience in Uriel this type of universe is terrible.

Everyone joins in knowing what the rules are, but in the end it always comes down to arguing who pushed who, who is botting, who has more "friends"...

Only thing I likes because I am military oriented was NO bashing rule, for MD waves...

But trust me, once universe starts and dust settles down, the ones left will be arguing like little babies who got Pushed more.

Ask the coma to remove the chaos characteristics... if you dont agree ask to remove... ogame.pt did it, and the uni started with normal rules...

Change it to a 30-60-90-180-365 day event server. It gets deleted at the end. No accounts come or go from this server.

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Change it to a 30-60-90-180-365 day event server. It gets deleted at the end. No accounts come or go from this server.

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