OGame.org and merges

  • Hello all!


    Let me start with: nothing is decided and we would like mostly to read your thoughts about it.

    What would you think about a merge on OGame.org?

    And if we would advance with one which would be your suggestion? Which groups would consider as exodus and targets?


    Would you like to have existent universes as exodus and targets or, in case it is possible, you would prefer only existent universes on a exodus group and all the possible targets as new and clean universes based on fleet speed, and other settings that would be determinant for most of the target options?


    For example, creating 4 new universes:

    - Universe A: eco 8x, fleet speed 1x, research 16x, DF 30%, etc

    - Universe B: eco 8x, fleet speed 3x, research 16x, DF 50%, etc

    - Universe C: eco 8x, fleet speed 5x, research 16x, DF 60%, etc

    - Universe D: eco 8x, fleet speed 6x, research 16x, DF 70%, etc


    These universes would be the target for a single group considering the older universes.


    This is only an idea about a different approach for merges and as said nothing set in stone but we would like to hear you opinion about the merges and if in favour which would be the best scenario for it.


    Please keep on topic and do not spam the thread.


    Cheers,

  • having new and clean universes as targets would be surely more fair than the actual merges, where the players in the target universes are stocked with no decisional power.

    in this case people can also choose for the best war speed suits their habits.

    Anyway, ogame.org is starting to be fully dead even with merges of any kind.

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  • I like the idea overall. My only thing would be it’s really a shame to lose the history of a universe as storied as Uni 1 it would be nice to archive that some how since it was was one of the very first universes but I’m still down with a fresh start somewhere.

  • These universes would be the target for a single group considering the older universes.

    I hope you aren't planning on mixing Volans with everything else. Keep Volans to itself forever. I think don't think the Dorado people would like this either, they enjoy their slowmotion.

  • my 2cents on that


    make 10different fresh uni settings 1x 2x no acs no rules etc and keep them after votes etc. as target


    and merge the shit out of every single servers .de .en etc all inside 10 unis and job done


    then every new uni will have all players from all communities in it


    add language option in game, and use english as generic for ing messages


    bring all players together much more fun.


    peace

  • First and foremost, very few players read the forums anymore...you really should send out an in-game message in every uni linking to this thread if you really are interested in having an honest discussion with the player base.


    Personally, I would be against new unis if it doesn't include a legacy setting uni like Dorado with 1x settings for everything, standard deuterium consumption, etc. Dorado isn't a good investment for new players starting from zero, but existing players that want to have a slower pace seem to find it worthwhile. I think Dorado should be a target for those players looking for legacy settings to accommodate a more relaxed playstyle. I won't play in unis with higher ECO and RES settings. So none of your new A - D unis would work for me and I'd have to quit or try to find a community with legacy settings.


    I would hate to see uni 1 go away, even though I don't currently play there...I think it should stay as it is the first and there is a lot of historical significance there regarding the game and players alike.


    And to address active player attrition. Get the merge token working so people don't have to waste 60 days of playtime in vmode to go to the graveyard. Fix the marketplace; whether people like it or not, the MP generated activity and got the introverts out of their shells and participating in the economy of the uni. Fire the current Game Forge marketing team and bring in a new one that actually knows how to actually market something. And lastly, implement the same features that people use in add-ons, extensions, and scripts to the game itself so they can enjoy those same "features" on mobile devices too.


    And allow polls on the forums for goodness' sake so people get an idea of the general consensus without having to read through pages and pages of comments.

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  • Keep darado as it is. Get some people in to sort out the bot problem that has come to some of the higher eco unis. I could go on but I think the person above says it best(cathedral)

    does not matter how many times you quit you always come back to ogame

  • different ? GF will continue to start new servers so what ? maybe collecting real players to 2 good configured servers. 1 fleet 1 eco thats all. and open new unis and add them into these old universes.


    for fleet based server ; you have to keep attack speed balance. there will be big points , big fleets and big differents on firepower.


    i do not have any idea about balanced server.


    but let it be big 1 server. at the end of year; merge all to this one thats all. but the question ; what will happen if the player has 2 big acc at different server ?

  • I think that having the existent unis as targets would be better. And I also hope the merge happens as soon as possible.

    What would happen to the inactives in case new unis were created just for target unis?

  • Spice it up a little and have 1 uni for all communities dedicated for the massive accounts, that are destroying peaceful unis. When they come in via graveyard or merger they destroy active unis everyone quits or vmodes, there's no profit in that. Its a little to late. Then these massive accounts vmode head to the graveyard then destroy the next uni. Big fat accounts with trillions of points should not be merged into small unis to become top dog and kill the uni then move on to another and so on.



    keep it simple have each uni with 1x fleet seed, 2x fleet speed, 3x fleet speed, 4xfleet speed, 5x fleet speed, 6x fleet speed, in total 6 unis. Eco is very important for sure but speed is vital to players lifestyles.


    Better still lets not merge no more. We have the graveyard that players can choose where they want to go to or to stay where they want and build up there accounts the way they want.


    Sure merge some if there are dead unis that are not performing as they should and become non profitable, they should be the ones to merge when you see there activity drops below a level then its time to push those unis into another uni, with the option of all unis for them to merge to.


    A merger token will not solve anything it may create players using the merger to destroy a uni then use another token to do the same. The graveyard is good enough if you want to leave the uni to join another then you have to wait. That will make it fair for those that can not purchase a token or afford to. The graveyard is there only option to move around.


    when unis are exodus i suggest that all unis are target unis in there community are available for the merge except the newly open unis under 12mths old and not exceeding rank 1 points. hence the special uni for these monster accounts.


    Volans chaos uni has graveyard deactivated, Therefor it should be excluded as a target uni in a merger, and a warning for those that choose go there via the graveyard to beware that once they enter they can never leave it.

  • I think this is a nice approach and gives everyone a choice as to where they want to go, who they want to play with, which play style they want to adopt, and most importantly they're not going to anyone's turf to play.
    Meaning there's no blocked SS, and not all slot 8s/15s are occupied by vmoders, active players, inactive players, banned players, etc...


    I think the only change I would make is this.


    For example, creating 4 new universes:

    - Universe A: eco 8x, fleet speed 1x, research 16x, DF 30%, etc

    - Universe B: eco 8x, fleet speed 2x, research 16x, DF 50%, etc

    - Universe C: eco 8x, fleet speed 4x, research 16x, DF 60%, etc

    - Universe D: eco 8x, fleet speed 6x, research 16x, DF 80%, etc


    As for people asking about inactives, they are usual merged into random universes, so we'll all have inactives to farm.


    A merger would be nice, but please leave Volans out of it.


    I also don't think Drado should be excluded from anything. They adapted quite well with MCO, Classes, etc.... so why should they be excluded from a merger?


    If this happens I'm looking forward to banging it out with the top dogs that survived throughout the years.

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  • Hello.


    Yes, Volans as a chaos universe is out of any possible interaction with other universes.

    Regarding Universe 1, I would also like to keep out of the merge, but opinions from the players there will matter.

    The merge system will be as usual, the suggestion was only to have clean targets with predefined settings to give a bigger range of options, so the inactive accounts will be as usual moved either randomly to one of the targets or to the Graveyard at the end of the merge.


    For the other mentioned points in some of the replies, please use discussion topics for it and use this topic for discussion the possible OGame.org merge options.

  • Ignore plse

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  • Might I respectfully ask Prongs - is this a GF initiative or something you would like to put up to GF?


    We don't want another round of knee jerk sticking plaster reaction of more mergers and new universes as over the past 10 years they have been a significant contribution to the decline of the game.


    There has to be a better plan going forward - Cathedral has a great point when he points out that few people use the Forums - less than 30 people are regular contributors, yet could influence the future of the game.


    Mergers and new universes don't work, and adding lifeforms to all universes may hasten the demise of the game.


    Lacerta is 8 days old and already 25% are inactive.

    Kerberos is 7 weeks old and 76% are inactive.

    Halley is 4 months old and 62% are inactive

    Gaspra is 3 months old with 56% inactive


    FERDINAND - 383 active 616 Inactive

    EARTH - 327 active 606 Inactive

    DIONE - 356 active 503 Inactive

    CETUS - 69 active 231 Inactive

    DORADO - 122 active 578 Inactive

    BELLATRIX - 186 active 740 Inactive

    OBERON - 83 active 1192 Inactive

    VEGA - 243 active 2020 Inactive

    QUANTUM - 221 active 2589 Inactive

    UNIVERSE 1 - 541 active 2514 Inactive


    Excluding the 4 recent universes, there are only 2531 active accounts in .ORG, and many play 2 accounts. I appreciate that many players over time have left .ORG for their own national universes, but...... what a sorry state .ORG is in.


    There needs to be a hold on more mergers and new universes and GF needs to make a commitment to come up with a plan involving players, although many may think it is already to late to save what was once, and still could be one of the best games of it's type on the net.


    Such a plan/review needs to encompass more than just mergers, it has to include sorting the other problems so than decent honest players get a fair crack of the whip.


    ~The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong~
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    U44/Quant/Jup/Betel HOF's = 576~ ~ ~481 Solo [10 Top 10] / 95 ACS [4 x #1 + 11 Top 10]
    ~~ RIP 7007+

  • well honestly i'd chose 2 fresh unis, acs / non acs, people are different espcially we have small player pools lately, ppl dont even "WoW factor" spend that much on dm in starts even, someones buisnesses falling also hah and there is low to 0 new player base...


    So defintly only 2 options come to mind as learned from previous merges and facts:

    > 1. THERE ARE always people who OVERPOWER the weaker from higher unis since there tends to be huge points diff so ppl quitt even after getin stuck for years.. that has to get some point to point better ratios

    > 2. PPL should choose depending on their style either acs and defintly NON Acs uni. Yes even for turtles non acs might work hhe ppl get tired so want to relax chill and enjoy both rl and ogame after playing it even for years and years...


    > SO only option and best version is:

    MID speed MID eco uni like 2/3x fL - 4/8x eco

    LOW speed HIGH eco uni like 1/2x War +- 2-6freindly - with 12-16x eco ( above the 8x point. ) that would generate ppl to enjoy relax and just build their mines to lvls they "dreamed or imagined it" without someone runing their game and love towards it honestly.. an non ACS uni ofc settings alike.

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  • There are many communities which are not dead, especially in Europe. Disbanding these communities to force people on ORG to ressurect it, is absurd and will never be done.


    The merge of any kind will not solve ORG problems. Many players choose to play other communities today, even not in their native language. ORG is just not attractive as it was before.

  • Mergers and new universes don't work, and adding lifeforms to all universes may hasten the demise of the game.

    So according to you, nothing works. Maybe present a solution instead of unnecessary stats?


    A merger would be nice since the new universes seem to be action-packed and they are growing faster than ever, otherwise, what do we have? 8 dead universes dominated by a single alliance?


    ORG is just not attractive as it was before.

    It's mainly due to not having a place to communicate and speak their mind, the forum is what pushed a lot of people to leave .org in addition the toxic characteristic of ex-team members did not help at all.


    That said, things are looking better... the forum is a bit more relaxed compared to what it was and operators aren't senselessly banning people anymore. I think some adjustments to the game rule would be nice and the same goes for the forum rule and structure. But this is a different topic for another thread.

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