OGame.org and merges

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About Lifeforms, if you didn't tested it yet at least in new universe you should rather accept it.

Hopefully, at some point in your life you will realize that assuming things about complete strangers on the internet makes you look like a fool, and will stop doing it.

Who said i didn't test it? I did, of course, extensively. You are aware of the existence of the PTS, are you?

I tried it, and didn't like it in the slightest. The best way to describe how i feel about it is a sentence i already used: a giant pile of stupid.

And who the heck are you to tell me that i should just "accept it"? Would you please stop lording people around like you were a self-appointed mentor of some less fortunate players? People are free to play the way they want (in accordance to the game rules, of course) and to like or dislike whatever they want, for whatever reason they want. Get it through that thick skull of yours once for all, for god's sake!

I won't read any further, i don't want to hurt my eyes into another jumbled mess of text without any semblance of structure. Moreover, i suspect it's not worth reading anyway.

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Said a person whos server need he not needs makes sense yea but w/e. Guess only thing that makes sense is someone being white as as a mop not getting outside and just throwing out wisdom around not seeing any sunlight, typical brittish i assume, but w/e enjoy your "big" brain and brag around with your google grammar check. bb.

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Hello all!

Let me start with: nothing is decided and we would like mostly to read your thoughts about it.

What would you think about a merge on OGame.org?

And if we would advance with one which would be your suggestion? Which groups would consider as exodus and targets?

Would you like to have existent universes as exodus and targets or, in case it is possible, you would prefer only existent universes on a exodus group and all the possible targets as new and clean universes based on fleet speed, and other settings that would be determinant for most of the target options?

For example, creating 4 new universes:

- Universe A: eco 8x, fleet speed 1x, research 16x, DF 30%, etc

- Universe B: eco 8x, fleet speed 3x, research 16x, DF 50%, etc

- Universe C: eco 8x, fleet speed 5x, research 16x, DF 60%, etc

- Universe D: eco 8x, fleet speed 6x, research 16x, DF 70%, etc

These universes would be the target for a single group considering the older universes.

This is only an idea about a different approach for merges and as said nothing set in stone but we would like to hear you opinion about the merges and if in favour which would be the best scenario for it.

Please keep on topic and do not spam the thread.

Cheers,

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I actually like the idea of creating 4 new universes. People will have the option of getting the fleetspeed they want, everyone has the same eco and research speeds. I would however change the minimum DF% to 50%. Have the two lowest fleetspeeds, Universe A and Universe B have 50% DF

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Hello all!

Let me start with: nothing is decided and we would like mostly to read your thoughts about it.

What would you think about a merge on OGame.org?

And if we would advance with one which would be your suggestion? Which groups would consider as exodus and targets?

Would you like to have existent universes as exodus and targets or, in case it is possible, you would prefer only existent universes on a exodus group and all the possible targets as new and clean universes based on fleet speed, and other settings that would be determinant for most of the target options?

For example, creating 4 new universes:

- Universe A: eco 8x, fleet speed 1x, research 16x, DF 30%, etc

- Universe B: eco 8x, fleet speed 3x, research 16x, DF 50%, etc

- Universe C: eco 8x, fleet speed 5x, research 16x, DF 60%, etc

- Universe D: eco 8x, fleet speed 6x, research 16x, DF 70%, etc

These universes would be the target for a single group considering the older universes.

This is only an idea about a different approach for merges and as said nothing set in stone but we would like to hear you opinion about the merges and if in favour which would be the best scenario for it.

Please keep on topic and do not spam the thread.

Cheers,

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I actually like the idea of creating 4 new universes. People will have the option of getting the fleetspeed they want, everyone has the same eco and research speeds. I would however change the minimum DF% to 50%. Have the two lowest fleetspeeds, Universe A and Universe B have 50% DF

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For me this is just a bad suggestion. Same eco and research and just different fleet speed means one thing. Different unis for miners and fleeters. Game is drawing dead already, doing this will just be the final blow, as unis will be either only pvp or pve. A more balanced approached is needed, as well as incentive for miners to choose higher speed unis. Fleet speed should be proportional to eco/research speed.

Just remember what class you pick also has an effect on your fleets speed.

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Hello all!

Let me start with: nothing is decided and we would like mostly to read your thoughts about it.

What would you think about a merge on OGame.org?

And if we would advance with one which would be your suggestion? Which groups would consider as exodus and targets?

Would you like to have existent universes as exodus and targets or, in case it is possible, you would prefer only existent universes on a exodus group and all the possible targets as new and clean universes based on fleet speed, and other settings that would be determinant for most of the target options?

For example, creating 4 new universes:

- Universe A: eco 8x, fleet speed 1x, research 16x, DF 30%, etc

- Universe B: eco 8x, fleet speed 3x, research 16x, DF 50%, etc

- Universe C: eco 8x, fleet speed 5x, research 16x, DF 60%, etc

- Universe D: eco 8x, fleet speed 6x, research 16x, DF 70%, etc

These universes would be the target for a single group considering the older universes.

This is only an idea about a different approach for merges and as said nothing set in stone but we would like to hear you opinion about the merges and if in favour which would be the best scenario for it.

Please keep on topic and do not spam the thread.

Cheers,

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I actually like the idea of creating 4 new universes. People will have the option of getting the fleetspeed they want, everyone has the same eco and research speeds. I would however change the minimum DF% to 50%. Have the two lowest fleetspeeds, Universe A and Universe B have 50% DF

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For me this is just a bad suggestion. Same eco and research and just different fleet speed means one thing. Different unis for miners and fleeters. Game is drawing dead already, doing this will just be the final blow, as unis will be either only pvp or pve. A more balanced approached is needed, as well as incentive for miners to choose higher speed unis. Fleet speed should be proportional to eco/research speed.

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Anything lower than x8 eco would mean they would be dead straight from the start.

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Anything lower than x8 eco would mean they would be dead straight from the start.

High ECO unis like 8x lead to metal resource package abuse with sales conducted outside the game via Discord and PP/Vmo/Cashapp followed by excessive (though legal) pulling that produces a ballistic and stratospheric rise in points for a select group and a lack of motivation and enthusiasm by the majority of the population to want to compete against other people's financial expenditures. That is what leads to sudden uni-death syndrome.

So, are we going to hear anything more about this from the volunteer staff?

The German .de community has already held a vote and published a FAQ. The only thing they haven't decided on is the date...

https://board.de.ogame.gamefor…ostID=3970293#post3970293

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So, are we going to hear anything more about this from the volunteer staff?

The German .de community has already held a vote and published a FAQ. The only thing they haven't decided on is the date...

https://board.de.ogame.gamefor…ostID=3970293#post3970293

As usual org isnačways late nor that much into stuff.. like we d have thrown us a "bone" here and then no more info or "meals" after that.. if i d have to guess i d say mergers in 1sr, myb 2nd quartal next year. Tho Holidays and new year arround so th3y r probably not active at ogame gf section or etc..

Prongs perhaps it might be time to close this thread and open a new one explaining what WILL happen, what MIGHT happen and what relevant input we can contribute,

We have 101 suggestions/comments here, but no real sense of direction.

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Prongs perhaps it might be time to close this thread and open a new one explaining what WILL happen, what MIGHT happen and what relevant input we can contribute,

We have 101 suggestions/comments here, but no real sense of direction.

it'd be much better if he even participated atleast semi active or anyone of his "right hand" .. Bu only sense and direction it has, should be somewhat close to german uni, 3x unis , better new ones, featured of these 3:

1. 8/10x eco/16x research (MAX eco so ppl stay 10x would be preferable )| 1x Warfleet| 1x Holding | 4x Peacefull, 70% df ( +- def into df would be neat for all those juicy turtles ) + 30 fields + 0.7Deut consump since transfering bilions of ress takes a tool.

2. 8x Eco - 3x War | 3x holding | 3/6x Friendly | 70% df | + 30 fields | + 0.5/7 deut consump

3. 8x eco - 6x war | 6x holding | 6x Peacefull | 70% df + 30% def df ( optional ) | 0.5 deut consump | +30 fields

somewhat of "ECO - Balanced - War uni .. so everyone can chose what they like , even tho the first option would be mostly filled, so there would be alot of fleeters rather playing there then the 3rd option.. kinda somewhat simmular to german results. Tho only "problem" also is, most of gf stuff and workers on game are going to vacation soon i think in 2-3days till 1st quarter of january, so i doubt any change or anything will come. Atleast they could have put 7-14days polls so people vote on something and know something is happening, instead just throwing out the "this tread as a bait" and complete silence since then literally... its kinda unfair and sux, but that's life , gota live with it.. sadge at the end totally...

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1. 8/10x eco/16x research (MAX eco so ppl stay 10x would be preferable )| 1x Warfleet| 1x Holding | 4x Peacefull, 70% df ( +- def into df would be neat for all those juicy turtles ) + 30 fields + 0.7Deut consump since transfering bilions of ress takes a tool.

2. 8x Eco - 3x War | 3x holding | 3/6x Friendly | 70% df | + 30 fields | + 0.5/7 deut consump

3. 8x eco - 6x war | 6x holding | 6x Peacefull | 70% df + 30% def df ( optional ) | 0.5 deut consump | +30 fields

You just made me realize I do not want a merge to happen at all. I can only lose or stay even if a merge happens.

Right now I play on multiple servers, and I'm fine with the settings for the servers the way they are. If we get merged, then the settings might become worse on the merged servers, at best they stay the same. I would rather not risk that in an attempt to create more activity, especially since activity doesn't benefit me in the slightest.

I have considered growing my alliance in other unis, but have not because of your situation Sazr. Who knows how long these unis will last nowadays?

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Well now, I haven't read al the posts, I stopped when I saw which universes are up for merge and I'm screwed no matter which way iit goes as I have accounts in every universe that is affected, not that I know when I will be able to play again thanks to this pesky issue we have to deal with at home called "Loadshedding" which puts us without electricity for up to 12 hours a day, so at this point I'm an inactive player LOL

That being said,

Universe 1 should be a target universe,

Dorado should be a target for accounts that fit a criteria that won't unbalance it to much, I think someone mentioned 25% more points than the current Number 1 would be resonable.

and as for the rest, well you already have 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x and 6x in the mix so what is the proposal exactly? Fact of the matter is, your drive techs and planet placement is setup for the universe you play in so a change in any fleet speed is going to be an adjustment for every player

No to lifeforms, I played it on the test server and absolutly hated it, and honestly if you add to the older universes I won't have to make a choice which accounts to delete and where to move to, you will have made it for me ...... and yes I know people said that with the redesign and other changes and are still playing, but I wasn't one of those people, I said I would give it a go and see how it went, I will absolutely be quitting if we are forced to play with likeforms.

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Dear Storm,

It's nice to see you back, and I hope you are who I'm thinking. Storm, ex RIO member back in Quantum

Reading your thoughts...and your emotions towards the future of Ogame makes me say, just take it easy. That's what I'm trying to do too, wait to see what's coming. I hated the introduction of LF, and I'm happy that I still don't have it. But lately having been trying to read a bit more about it and definitely it would make a player like us to change...or adjust strategy. Stay calm dear, you here again and that is most important. It's nice to see you're still around...and in love with Ogame to have more than 1 acc. One step at the time, first merge and then most probably LF will come to all...sooner or later, and more effort will be needed if I decide to use it

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Hey, depends ........ do you have good or bad thoughts when you think of "that" Storm

Now onto the lifeform issue ..... I have played it on the test server, initully thought ok this isn't as bad as I thought it could have been, as I went on it became a little tedius, there are so many things that need to be done all the time, especially building an account from scratch.

As I went on resources became an issue, as everyone is aware things get quite expensive, on a more established account like one of my existing accounts, it would be easier to "catch-up" but on building an account from scratch, you have to start making some choices as to where to put your focus, more so than ogame as we know it.

Ok so now I'm on the hunt for resources, first problem lack of fleet slots, you need fleet slots to do attacks, you need slots for expo's, to transport res and you also need fleet slots to search for life forms, now I know availability of fleet slot is an ongoing issue for everyone. Besides the problems I encuntered on the test server of never having enough to do everything, on an account like my Bella account, I do around 40 expo's a day, this keeps 7 slots busy most of the day, on top of that I do approximately 400 raids a day, baring in mind a min of 4 slots are constantly tied up with varous res and fleet saves, I use all three fleet boosters, and it still takes me atleast 2 days to save for a mine, and for my next research ...... well I've been saving for months (with a small fleet I don't have much use for deut so I save it to convert later for my researches and my next research is pretty pricey) LOL, my point here is, allocate 5 slots to searching for lifeforms to keep inproving that, how much extra time will it take now gather the resources I need for any upgrades or fleet I plan to build, and the additional build and researches needed for lifeforms.

If my memory is correct and I stand to be corrected, but most/all lifeform upgrades use deut, and later on a lot of duet, so even for a miner who tends to have excess deut, this is going to become problematic as their account develops, and fleeters who are always looking for deut, have their own decisions to make about develop ther lifeforms or fly their fleet, baring in mind I had an abundence of DM on the test server which was a great help in developing the account and getting stuff done, that I would normally have to just wait for, Also a large portion of my DM was used to convert res, to get that nice balance of res production and need is more difficult. I will never on my actual accounts buy that amount of DM ever, first because I can play quite easily with the DM I find on expo's so don;t need to buy any, and second when you convert a $9.99 DM package to my local currency you are looking at around 2k, and that is when the exchange rate is good LOL

I already spend a huge amount of time to build an account, and with lifeforms my time commitment would be mre (it vcertainly was on the test server), and I'm just not into spending more time playing and developing slower, although I'm not overly competetive I like to atleast stand a chance against the big spenders

So for me personally, lifeforms being added to my existing accounts will definately be a reason to finally quit Ogame, and no none of the spinoff/hybrid Ogames are an option, tried them, way to easy, it's boring within a week. Maybe my Mom will let me join her clan/alliance/co-op on Farmville.

An off switch for lifeforms would be great for those that don't want the distraction or don't have the time.

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An off switch for lifeforms would be great for those that don't want the distraction or don't have the time.

that wont bring u anything but downsde as they others gonna fly buy with super push from Lifeform bonuses

this thread is about merge, not lifeform, thanks.

Make all unis exodus unis. Set up 4-8 new unis with various speeds and allow players to choose which uni they want to play in. Maybe make tiered versions of each uni so that point disparity doesn't discourage continued play.

Why. They cannot fix bugs at the moment opening new unis, which is pointless. Fix the problems why players are leaving in the first place or is this just another endless circle of a waste of time

The idea of 4 new universes is interesting I think. But maybe before asking for opinions from the community, first be clear about when the lifeforms to every uni is going to happen. Because for now I hink you can not put universes with them in universes without them.

Maybe you can keep 4 or 5 old universes as a target, change the settings so there is a choice in fleet speed like the example for the new ones. Make one eco 10. That are going to be the target uni's, but give the old players also a choice if they want to go to a different target uni. And keep the chaos as it is.

And instead of opening every month a new universe to get some new income from the new impuls for bying dm, find a different way to stimulate us to spend DM, like different ingame events, because in 6 month there is the same issue and knowing that there is going to be a merge almost every year, well i think it is annoying for the players who need to move constantly. Or make it a thing...every year in january there is a merge.

I like the idea of 3 destination unis with 1x fleet speed, mid speed and max speed. Throw all the sharks in the water together and let the strong survive.
I also like the idea of 6 galaxies and 50% DF which I believe was suggested earlier in the thread.

I don't play in Dorado, but if the whole crux of that universe is that it's a "Legacy Uni" then it seems a bit crazy that they'd be forced to leave that. You're promising people one thing and delivering another. If I did play there, and I were forced to merge into anything other than that, I'd feel cheated. Of course, the reality is money talks.

If there is a possibility to let them merge into a legacy uni on the german server, which having read through the thread seems to be the case, I think you'd be at the very least obligated to allow that move.