OGame.org and merges

    yes, there is no reason to have eco 6x in only that universe lol

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    Whenever you think its gone, this GUY GA always suprises! I really hands down for his hard work and dedication in the shadows!!!! GG... tho if possible due all these fleet speeds and RL balance witch we all eventually have, if For example that we from dione get into some 2x max speed option? or atleast i hope that 3/4x speed u mention here isnt global but peacefull, since i'd suggest from what i learned, and from what i saw in few merges, especialy late one now on .us where ppl getin smackd daily quitting cause they got forced into higher speed unis, and it killed the balance between a game and rl, that one of the OPTIONS even NEW UNI options, has 1x War and myb max up to 4x peacefull, with usual x8eco, and about df and other settings as whatever u decide.. So some of the players in any group who are playing in slower speed unis, have STILL THAT TIME TO ENJOY THEIR REAL LIFE with balancing free time with ogame? THANKS! thats only thing i'd propose and from what i know people would defintly like > SLOW uni to choose! Thank you for your time and really


    BIG BIG Regards to mr. Danimanza!

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    This is all nice and finally something palpable from GF. However, ya'll need to take it down a notch and reduce the war speeds by 2x, or AT LEAST 1x for the blank universes. Since 8x eco seems to be the norm, then why bother with Gamma being 6x at all? Next year it will be merged into 8x anyway.

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    So, let me get this straight.


    Whatever is the final choice, the only migration options for Dione are either a speedserver with at least 3x fleet speed (that almost nobody will take, because if they wanted to play on a speedserver they wouldn't have choosen to open an account in a 1x fleetspeed server in the first place)


    OR


    Universe 1, where the top 1 has 17 billions points, where there are fleets with millions of destroyers and battlecruisers, where an account like mine would go from rank 11 in Dione to rank 450-ish after the migration, and where no one who would migrate from Dione would have the slightest chance to climb up the ranks and would be forever relegated to the role of the small fish in the pond.


    I don't know what to say. Maybe it's time to retire? Mathilde seems a reasonable escape, but in one year or so GF would probably screw up that server as well,

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    totally agree.. even our top1 would end up top 350+ in uni1 lol.. Rather instead of alpha beta gamma, give the unis who had previous speeds 1-2x , one of those "new targets" make them 1/2x war max, with 4-6peacefull instead... rather then forcing all into high speeds , and a Shi*strom will happen like its happening right now on us servers where they got forced into higher speed unis.. so ppl do wonders , just read few treads there.. so if POSSIBLE that "alpha, beta or gamma, XY new serv " atleast have 1 -2x max WAR speed or even peaceful, or either at least with 1-2x war to have 4-6peacefull.. would mean alot.. cause i doubt anyone would like to play against a 10-17b people with only as little as 30-200m points acc... Even tho only one "positive" thing in uni1 is a lot of glxyes i think and 1x all speeds, but imagine transing something from g2 to g9 or so like furthest ones, u'd lose half a day for it.. so mr Danimanza can u do something about speeds, for dione and simmular unis, a maximum of 2x war or 1x war + 4-6peacefull speed target? Since if we had 8x eco from start or eitehr few months ago we would have some chance in 4x war or either uni1... thanks for your time and effort! but Please invest more thoughts into it... tty

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    Danimanza The proposal is indeed to change eco from x6 to x8 for Gamma. Which also means research speed from x12 to x16 of course.

    So, I wouldn't call myself a seasoned player (I haven't been around for years like some of you people), but I've been playing for the last year across 4 unis, and I can definitely recognise the importance of keeping fleet speeds similar. The bump in economy and research speeds are welcome by all players, but fleet speeds and additional factors like deut consumption %, DF %, DiDf, probe storage and galaxy numbers are all things that can also cause discontent.

    In general, there really should be 3 different servers, all with different fleet speeds. The slowest server I've played was at 2x war speed, and coming from only 4x war speeds it demotivated me to fleet, but I could be a collector and play in peace. There's a lot of people that do not have time to put up with a 4x war speed, and god forbid playing a 5-6x war speed, I wouldn't want to play there myself.

    The speeds should be more equally spaced out to account for our friends on the slower servers, so maybe having 3 servers on 2x, 4x and 6x could be an option. If the fastest a server will be set at is 5x, it should have at least something more interesting going for it compared to the 4x one, like DiDF or something along those lines.


    On a last note, please never make a server again that does not support ACS.

    And a last question, that I'm not sure was brought up earlier on - would the new target unis have lifeforms? I've avoided playing on those servers thus far, so I'd rather have the choice of whether or not I get lifeforms.

    Probably stalking you but too shy to pay you a visit :unsure:

    they’re all going to have lifeforms at some point. For older unis it’s not going to happen for at least another month or so.

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    New universe Gamma: 6x eco, 12x research, 5x fleet

    Didn't notice the 6x eco and 12x research.

    Honestly, I don't see any point in discussing eco, research, and additional fields. They should all be 8x eco, 16xresearch, and +31.


    The deciding factor should be fleet speed, DF, Deut consumption


    otherwise, Gamma will be a fleeters universe with barely any miners. Even if it's 100% DF, I as a fleeter wouldn't join that universe because of the eco. That uni will barely have any miners, I'll have to continuously merch to get deut, it's just a hassle.


    I've been playing 40% DF with 100% Deut, and it's terrible. No idea how others play here but it just sucks the motivation out of playing this game. Don't over-decrease DF % just because it's a higher speed universe.


    Again, Option 2 is nice if the target universes look like this.


    Universe 1 - 1x fleet / 8x eco / 16x research / 50% DF / 70% Deut/ +31

    New uni Alpha - 3x fleet / 8x eco / 16x research / 70% DF / 60% Deut / +31

    New uni Gamma - 5x fleet/ 8x eco /16x research / 60% DF / 50% Deut / +31


    or since we're one of the few communities that have no special universes like 10x eco, we could have 80% DF.


    Universe 1 - 1x fleet / 8x eco / 16x research / 50% DF / 70% Deut/ +31

    New uni Alpha - 3x fleet / 8x eco / 16x research / 80% DF / 60% Deut / +31

    New uni Gamma - 5x fleet/ 8x eco /16x research / 70% DF / 50% Deut / +31

    Don't let the game play you, instead of that Vmode fleetsave and play the game whenever you want.

    Merging universes with wildly different point totals is a miserable experience, far more so when you are drastically altering fleet speeds.

    It's telling that no one is excited about the proposal... at best you have a few players saying "it's ok" and the rest upset at these changes. Everyone is asking for a x1 option that isnt UNI 1 WHERE WE HAVE NO CHANCE BEING COMPETITIVE.

    Stop using new unis as fodder for older dying unis and put some thought into long term merge plans AND MAKE IT KNOWN FROM THE START. Springing half-thought out merge plans and giving accounts 2 weeks to adjust strategy to wildly different settings is unfair at best, and game killing at worst.

    Prongs I'm curious why .de COMA was reluctant to let Dorado .org players merge there?


    The reality is, as long as the Dorado.org players don't fall in the top 20 they can just work around getting to .de uni 1 via the graveyard so why make them take that route and waste 60 days?


    There are only a few of us in Dorado that would land in the top 20 who would be restricted by that top 20 rule if we are forced to migrate via the graveyard. Our whale would land in rank 1 spot, I would land in the top 10, and one or two of my ally mates would land in the top 20. Outside of the whale, that seems like a pretty competitive addition to an active uni.


    is it because we have a whale with 1.7bn points that you let join Dorado and ruin it? Because if that's true, then you really need to revisit that super savvy idea of option one group two with Dorado and Dione having the option of going to Beta...just imagine, the players of Dione and Dorado getting stuck in a high ECO uni like that with our 1.7bn account whale. Beta would be dead on arrival just like Dorado was when you let the whales in.


    Because other than causing that kind of disparity in points, it's the only reason I can see them not wanting active players willing to play in legacy setting uni join. Unless .de protected their uni 1 from whales and graveyard merges...which would be funny if they did since you wouldn't do that here.

    You've managed to make an even worse suggestion than the people who decide what happens. Impressive.

    To be honest I'm very positive with option 1 and also with option 2 if gamma gets 8x eco.

    I think if you want miners in the universe you shouldn't set the debris settings too high or the deut settings too low. Else it's too early profitable to go for the daily production.


    About the field settings. We got those +31 setting when we had 3/4/5 eco. Now we have 8…

    Maybe we should go to +40 or maybe +50 with the planets.

    I read the dude's post and thought, I want whatever this dude is smoking. wtf

    Probably stalking you but too shy to pay you a visit :unsure:

    Reading this is giving me a headache. Half the comments are comprised with little more than deranged screeching.


    I like the idea of three target universes, and Universe 1 being one of them. I do however think Universe 1 requires a DF increase to at least 50%.


    What's happening with Dorado is sad, and there must be a better solution. Yes, Cathedral's getting a little over-excited but for good reason. You expect people to invest years of their lives and hundreds of dollars on the game and then you do this to them. You can do better, you just won't. It's not good enough. I don't play there myself as I was out of the game when it opened, but if I had been then I would have - and I'd be as annoyed as he is.

    Now to sit back and watch Gameforge quench their thirst with the tears of players' unfathomable sadness.

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    Danimanza : Could you eloborate the plan with the inactives (without V-mode)? I prefer to keep them all. What's the plan?

    The inactives on the exodus are moved to the targets.


    Also, active players without dark matter who don't select any target, they are moved to the targets.


    Only players with purchased dark matter available that don't select any target, are moved to the graveyard

    We are checking on this.


    But I'd say it's not imposible to get it to 8x eco