Block Turkish Lira Transactions until exchange rate is updated to match DM Rewards

  • Title is self-explanatory:


    CONTAINMENT:

    Block all Turkish Lira transactions until all exchange rates on the current payment page is updated to match the DM rewards.


    For example, currently:

    3,000,000 Dark Matter for £ 99.99

    3,000,000 Dark Matter for TL 450


    At current exchange:

    450.00 Turkish Lire = 19.841728 British Pounds


    So that's 5 times more DM per £ for Turkish Players.


    That's why, in Lacerta, there are such big point differences between TOP 5 players.


    BALANCE:

    x5 all non-TL purchases.

    Match Exchange rates.

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  • If you ask me we shouldn't care too much about this. You should know that the Turkish Lira has a very heavy inflation for the last months/years. The Turkish people have a tougher time than we do have now so if they can buy their DM a bit cheaper I really don't care.

  • What I wonder is why there are only complaints about Lira and not other currencies. If you want to discuss this, talk about exchange rates in general being relevant for DM purchases - no need for this one-sided resentment.


    Having said that, I believe you need to adapt the DM amount you get to the exchange rates, since on average, players from regions not only with high inflation, but also with low average wages, will have less purchasing power than other regions. Again, on average, players from these regions will therefore get the same amount of DM for their money as we get, relative to their puchasing power. One shouldn't "punish" the majority of players because of some big spenders.


    Lastly, this would only become a huge problem if these accounts are systematically sold (traded), especially when funded by money abroad on a large scale. Other than that, you can't punish the average player.

  • GF, just like any other gaming company, is interested in keeping the balance in-game and filling up their pockets. That much should be absolutely clear.


    5-10% variance is acceptable and absolutely normal. But in a Universe without ACS where rank 1 has 1.2bn points, rank 2 has 480m points and rank 3 has 188m points, it's pretty obvious that's a bit too much.


    Geography and economics have absolutely nothing to do with in-game fairness. It doesn't matter where you are from, if you can't afford to buy DM, don't do it. It's nobody else's problem that your country's currency is collapsing. Since OGame has been Pay-to-win for quite a while now, the exchange rates must be kept in check.

    If you charge players 100 GBP for 3m DM, that should reflect onto every currency, regardless of inflation and currency collapses, with that 5-10% short term variance while adjustments are being made.

    Also, this isn't crypto. TL has been slowly collapsing for more than 10 years.

    And giving the current price vs the Pound Sterling (I have to compare it with GBP since I live in the UK), TL prices haven't been updated in about 5 years, which is absolutely absurd.


    No, it wouldn't be fair to ban and refund but it would be fair to block all future transactions until the exchange rates are updated, while giving every non-TL purchase of DM the x5 that TL purchases are receiving.

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  • .Org is an English community, similarly to .fr being a French community and .de being a German community.

    All DM prices should therefore be converted to GBP regardless of where the player is playing or buying the DM from, or whatever the situation in his country is.

    If you want to buy DM in Lira, get LameForge to make .tr community otherwise prices should be in GBP.

    The country I am playing from also has super high inflation rate but I still have to buy DM in Euros. Why should I be disadvantaged and not TR players?

  • i feel ya, payments here where i live are also small + inflation is super raging, so its like lets say either 200k dm for 10eur or either buy food to eat launch 2days for that amount, whereas in .tr liras 10eur is like arround 1,3m dm if i remember correct, i might skip a meal for that amount of dm, but for 200k , lol i'd rather struggle farming inactives lol :D haahha :D but yea its abit unbalanced but no worry, crush em with ur skill, i even like that turks have cheap dm.. it helps alot eating more getting more :P

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  • Yes, Turkey is a heaven because DM is cheap. You should relocate too.


    Iphone 14 pro 128 gb sells for $2.2k instead of $1k due to insane taxes, but who cares. People feed on Dark Matter.


    P.S. £ 99.99 is 25% of minimum wage, which 75% of labor force is on.

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  • Setting various prices for the same product isn't against the law. (at least in the USA)

    You have to look at it from an economic point of view and not a math point of view.

    GF is trying to maximize their profit.


    Happy hunting to all.


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  • Yes, Turkey is a heaven because DM is cheap. You should relocate too.


    Iphone 14 pro 128 gb sells for $2.2k instead of $1k due to insane taxes, but who cares. People feed on Dark Matter.


    P.S. £ 99.99 is 25% of minimum wage, which 75% of labor force is on.

    The issue is not people living in Turkey buying at those rates. The issue is mainly people using tricks to get Lira prices even though they aren't living there.


    For some time Turkish prices were only available in OGame.TR but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. And even if it was, people just graveyard to TR, buy cheap DM, then merge back to another community.


    But tbh the main issue isn't DM prices. The main issue is Metal packs being so god damn broken. But Gameforge doesn't care about longevity.

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  • For some time Turkish prices were only available in OGame.


    I assure you this was not the case. A decade ago i would pay TRY 250 for 2.5m DM, which roughly equaled €100. The price was same in .tr server.


    DM price in TRY mostly remained the same, but the currency has been in free fall ever since the coup d'etat in '16.


    Btw this situation is not limited to Dark Matter. I pay 50 cents for Amazon Prime. Game distribution services, GeForce Now etc. are all dirt cheap here.

    Glorious 1 is back in town. If the next couple sentences make sense to you, you are at risk.


    At best, you will be baalized. At worst, your physical and mental well-being is at stake. You will likely forget what uninterrupted sleep is. Your immune system will steadily decline. Your will to fight will be broken. You will regret having invested so much into nothing.

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  • daaaamn :D

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  • It doesn't work like this. Currency and payment processor is provided based on your location, not the server you're playing.

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  • I've just checked from a location in Turkey and to me, it looks like all the prices (even in TRY) are adjusted to their EUR/USD/GBP equivalent (e.g. the largest 200 USD DM packs will be converted into the equivalent 3.8K-ish TRY Lira amount).

  • Runner Do you know what the average salary is in Turkey? Also what is the average salary in the other countries ? You cannot say that dark matter is cheap in Turkey without an answer to these. According to me, dark matter is cheaper in the european union and england compared to purchasing parity.

  • That's not the problem. It's the fact that the system can be abused otherwise to buy DM at cheaper prices from say the USA/West Europe using a VPN for instance, getting multiple times the amount of DM you would otherwise get directly from your local country.


    That exploit existed in Genshin impact for instance at the beginning, using a VPN to make purchases from Brazil. It was patched though so now every currency gets you roughly the same amount.