Auction

    Is it at all possible for the Auction to be enabled for those of us on the other side of the world, country's such as Australia, New Zealand, Asia To be able to have the auction running for our time zone. unfortunately we do not have our own server for our community.


    I get that it closes, but it is closed when we do most of our game play.


    when the Auction is running most of us do not get a chance, as we are all sleeping. When we wake up to play the Auction is asleep along with most of the players, so its a little unfair for us that only have a short window to play on the Auction .



    It's true that I've never really understood why auctions aren't open 24 hours a day. I can imagine a desire to add some "realism", with an auctioneer resting for 6 hours... But does realism have a place in an online game like OGame?

    I think the reason it's closed at night, is because on smaller servers and/or smaller communities there aren't many people online at the closed times. If it was open at night, it would almost be like gifting items to a very small number of player who'd have almost no competition getting the auction wins. My thinking is that at some point GameForge decided this was too good a deal for those online at night, or it was an unfair advantage, therefore the closing time was probably made, but it's just a guess. Or maybe they do care about peoples health and want them to sleep occasionally.


    EN is one of the larger communities, so it isn't that there's that few people online at night here, it's if we look at communities like SI, DK, HU etc. On EN you'll easily have multiple people online at night, but on SI they've got 3 servers, one of them has 12 active players (https://prnt.sc/ivcUuve-IU9A). I doubt there'll be many people online at night there, so it'll almost be like giving items away for cents on the dollar.


    With that said, I'm all for the auction being open 24 hours per day. For a long time I've only used it when the task event forces me to do so. It's such a rage inducing system, and I feel much better staying as far away from it as I can.

    I understand your point of view but, factually, would there be a big change if auctions were open all day long ? I mean, what percentage of players use auctions on a regular basis? 5% on average maximum? This concerns so few players that I rather see the idea of 24-hour auctions as a way of congratulating those who are really active without a need to spend money but only resources.

    And, on top of that, if you take into account the fact that many players play on English universes in different time zones, it makes even more sense to allow everyone to benefit from auctions 24 hours a day.

    Quote from Sazr

    it would almost be like gifting items to a very small number of player who'd have almost no competition getting the auction wins.

    My day is over and yours is just beginning so its not an advantage. Its a disadvantage for us that live on the other side of the world.

    when there is events Auction never closes, We still have to battle to get anything and there is the regular Auction players that out bid everyone, you know who they are. As you can see the regulars, spending Millions of res on the first bid.

    We miss out as there is very little chances for us to get anything as these players are still bidding in the middle of the night during events depriving themselves of sleep regardless when the Auction is open or close.


    Its unfair for us that has finished playing the game for the night as the Auction has just come alive. We miss out on any chance of getting anything from the Auction.

    I don't know why you're trying to convince me it's a good idea. I already mentioned that I was in no way against this.


    Nice cherry picking though.

    Quote from Sazr

    I don't know why you're trying to convince me it's a good idea. I already mentioned that I was in no way against this.


    Nice cherry picking though.

    I almost quoted you also. Probably because you spent most of your post defending an idea of why auctions may not be open around the clock. Seemed like you were for it before you were against it butt your argument is flawed. It is not gifting a small number of players because of the delay timer between auctions. It is just giving those players a chance to also get items. I get one shot at winning an auction before they go offline until I have to log off. How is that fair?

    Quote from spo0kycow

    I almost quoted you also. Probably because you spent most of your post defending an idea of why auctions may not be open around the clock. Seemed like you were for it before you were against it butt your argument is flawed. It is not gifting a small number of players because of the delay timer between auctions. It is just giving those players a chance to also get items. I get one shot at winning an auction before they go offline until I have to log off. How is that fair?

    Quote from Sazr

    EN is one of the larger communities, so it isn't that there's that few people online at night here, it's if we look at communities like SI, DK, HU etc. On EN you'll easily have multiple people online at night, but on SI they've got 3 servers, one of them has 12 active players (https://prnt.sc/ivcUuve-IU9A). I doubt there'll be many people online at night there, so it'll almost be like giving items away for cents on the dollar.


    I've never said the closing period was a good thing. I was playing the devils advocate to come up with a reason for why GameForge would have introduced it in the first place, because the post right before mine was questioning just that.


    The argument I was trying to make, is that GameForge need players to purchase dark matter. At night (Server-time) most people sleep, so only the most dedicated players tend to be online. The most dedicated players are likely also the ones, that are most likely to purchase and spend dark matter. If the auction is running when the majority is asleep, then the items will essentially be given away almost for free, to the players that were most likely to purchase them with dark matter.


    Most people don't play on servers with languages they don't understand. On the forums you'll find far more that do, but that's because if you're creating a forum account, then you're most likely already spending way more time on the game than the majority of players. So on all the minor language communities, you'll likely not find many people that doesn't understand the language. Let alone people who doesn't speak the language and play from multiple timezones away. It's quite unlikely they'll have any competition over these items, and it'll almost be like giving them away for free. EN is a special case, because most people understand some level of English. You are far more likely to have people from all over the world, on an English speaking server, as opposed to a Hungarian speaking server.


    I'm not saying it's a good argument. I'm not saying it's fair either system either, and that's not much of a consideration, as long as it's profitable. But why else would GameForge make the closing time if it wasn't for some monetary gain?

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    I think it is a fine idea, but add to it that no player can win more than one auction in a 24 hour period.

    Why add such a penalty? If someone wants to be active all the during during the auction, that's his problem. But he shouldn't be penalized for wanting to play so much on the game. And, above all, this would mean that we'd have to have 24 different winning players every day... Do we only have 24 different players bidding on all the universes? I highly doubt it.

    Quote from Sazr

    I've never said the closing period was a good thing. I was playing the devils advocate to come up with a reason for why GameForge would have introduced it in the first place, because the post right before mine was questioning just that.

    The OP was not questioning why auctions were closed. He was asking for them to be open around the clock for fairness. That is the request on the table. Again you spent almost your entire post thinking of reasons the auction should not be open. Unless you represent Gameforge you are only speculating which is not helpful and you are part of the problem. But this is not about you or me and I promise you, Gameforge is not hurting for cheddar. Over night auctions would not break the bank.

    Its long overdue the Auction needs some changes for sure.


    1) To stay opens for everyone on different time zones around the world to get a chance to play.

    2) There should be a limit of how many wins one player can have in 24hrs so it gives more players a chance to play.


    3) perhaps 3 or 4 wins per 24hrs is not unreasonable, anymore than that they are blocked from bidding for 48 hrs to give others a chance to play.

    The Auction needs to be cleaned up from players obsession to win every Item every day.

    I'm still not in favor of "limiting" a player's participation in auctions. If he wants to spend his day doing that and trying to win everything, why stop him? If it were easy to know exactly when the auction would end, I'd understand - it'd be too easy. But in this case, you never know exactly when it's going to end, and it takes concentration and attention to win. There's a little bit of luck involved, and a player with a minimum of attention can totally win against a "pro" of auctions. So, for me, a player who really wants to win an auction deserves to do so, and if he's motivated to get as many as possible, he shouldn't be restricted.

    Its been timed down to the last 5min then they watch and will start bidding in the last 30 seconds Ive watch had a bid on and was out bid many many time in the last second and its gone not a chance in hell Ive had my finger ready and loaded to press and it was outbid same exact time as Auction ended, no way is it done random it happens all the time they have some way of getting it at the very last second, I do not know how they do it but they do ,and this is why I gave up on the Auction as its not fair .


    check out uni 1 right now 15 wins by the one player millions of res no one has a chance and that is selfish.

    I understand your displeasure but, factually, it's his problem if he wants to spend millions of resources on auctions. The only way to win is to be even faster than him, which I understand is not easy, but that's the whole point of auctions.

    The problem I have with "limit" is that it's not something that fits in with the game's policy. If we're going to limit participation in auctions, why not limit the number of lootboxes a player can open? Obviously, that would make a lot of people happy... But that's never going to happen, because GameForge has no interest in doing that.

    While I'm all for sharing and everyone getting a piece of the auction pie, winning is above all a matter of skill, as you simply have to be fast to win, and there's no option to pay to win auctions...

    Quote from .KaZe.

    I understand your displeasure but, factually, it's his problem if he wants to spend millions of resources on auctions. The only way to win is to be even faster than him, which I understand is not easy, but that's the whole point of auctions.

    The problem I have with "limit" is that it's not something that fits in with the game's policy. If we're going to limit participation in auctions, why not limit the number of lootboxes a player can open? Obviously, that would make a lot of people happy... But that's never going to happen, because GameForge has no interest in doing that.

    While I'm all for sharing and everyone getting a piece of the auction pie, winning is above all a matter of skill, as you simply have to be fast to win, and there's no option to pay to win auctions...

    Regardless on how the auction is running The selfish players can not play 24/7 if they do then there is a serious problem. and if they want to waste there lives bidding 24/7 so be it. Its a game they will never own and life will pass them by.


    But its unfair that the Auction is closed when we on the other-side of the world are playing, so it should be open 24/7 so everyone around the world on different time zones has a chance to play and not just for those when the Auction is open.


    Its closed for many of us now I come online No Auction I do not send 24/7 on the game, its unhealthy to spend so much time on a game.


    So make it fair for everyone, after all the game dose not stop playing. its open 24 /7, so the Auction should be the same for all to enjoy.


    We do not have our own server to request a separate time for the Auction to run for us. So we share the EN server and community so it should be fair for everyone not just for those on the opposite side of the world .

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    Quote from spo0kycow

    The OP was not questioning why auctions were closed. He was asking for them to be open around the clock for fairness. That is the request on the table. Again you spent almost your entire post thinking of reasons the auction should not be open. Unless you represent Gameforge you are only speculating which is not helpful and you are part of the problem. But this is not about you or me and I promise you, Gameforge is not hurting for cheddar. Over night auctions would not break the bank.

    You think GameForge's reason for having a closing period is completely irrelevant, when you are talking about removing the closing period... Ok?