Speed up / reduce cost the artefact findings

  • Do you agree with this request and would you like it to be relayed to GameForge ? 49

    1. Yes (28) 57%
    2. No (21) 43%

    Hello reader


    This must have been suggested many times before, now that i am tweaking some lifeform research to another playstyle it takes a lot of effort, time, fleet slots to find artefacts.

    I can find myself into the idea that you dont want people switching playstyle just like that for any moment but this is taking ages to change your lifeform researches.


    Suggestion 1: reduce the cost of lifeform research artefacts cost by 50 or even better, 75%

    Suggestion 2: increase artefact findings by 300 or even better, 500 %.


    It still takes time to change your playstyle but not weeks/months.

    This is just a pure timewaster for us players, it's highly annoying and i can imagine it's turning people off from changing their playstyle and try new things and rather quite the game than try another playstyle.

    Edited once, last by .KaZe. ().

  • Hello Confederation


    Thank you for this suggestion.

    I've just included a poll in the first post to find out what players think and whether they'd like this suggestion to be passed on to GameForge.

    The poll lasts 30 days and all opinions are welcome.

    Thank you in advance for your involvement !

  • what do you mean, the pay dm to skip reset is only to bypass the timer that the free reset has..

    Your still paying artefact for each research you want to unlock

    He is trying to argue, that a feature solving the issue already exists. You can select a random research, giving you 25% chance to get the research you were hoping for. Then if you did not get the research you were hoping for, you can pay to immediately reroll that research. The problem is that this turns lifeforms into a casino where the prize is to get the researches you'd like. 25% chance may not seem that bad, but you can only reset a whole tier. The 1 in 4 chance to get what you want, turns to 1 in 16 at 2 other researches, 1 in 64 at 3 other researches, and 1 in 256 at 4 other researches. I don't like these odds personally. I'm not going to pay just to have a low percentage chance to get what I want.


    GameForge has obviously made it this way, to try to milk the cow even more. The merchant works this same way, and obviously, GameForge must know it's a feature that drains a lot of dm. They likely expect players will pay to repeatedly reset, in frustration over having to wait and not getting artefacts. They must have thought of selling Artefacts, but then decided against it, because they believed this casino model would drain more dm.

  • Thanks for your clarification on this, I did not think about this like you described yet, i didn't see it as a valid option to go the 1/4 route per research option. i wouldn't mind paying a small DM sum to choose my research. this makes changing playstyle for anyone way quicker. Finding Artefacts is a painfully slow progress and if you need to do this on 15, 16 or 17 planets it will take you a good month of none stop sending the search for artefact.


    This pretty much means that your current playstyle, fleeting, raiding, expo's are on-hold or if you still choose to do those in between the process of reworking your lifeform research goes way beyond 1 month. This is clearly a huge time waster for any player . Lifeform research is a huge importance to any players account but it's such a big wall on the road if you want to change things.


    This clearly is a bullshit mechanic placed to annoy players, maybe to go into the casino route you described Sazr

  • I can't believe that GF doesn't have a DM option to buy artefacts.

    But they do? You can pay DM to skip reset, effectively bypassing the need for artifacts.

    what do you mean, the pay dm to skip reset is only to bypass the timer that the free reset has..

    Your still paying artefact for each research you want to unlock

    Sazr already answered it. You can pay DM to get a reset, which is the same as buying artifacts because you spent artifacts to avoid having to reset gamble and wait a long time until your next reset.

    The Fiercest serpent may be overcome by a swarm of ants.


    - Yamamoto Isoroku

  • I can't believe that GF doesn't have a DM option to buy artefacts.

    But they do? You can pay DM to skip reset, effectively bypassing the need for artifacts.

    what do you mean, the pay dm to skip reset is only to bypass the timer that the free reset has..

    Your still paying artefact for each research you want to unlock

    Sazr already answered it. You can pay DM to get a reset, which is the same as buying artifacts because you spent artifacts to avoid having to reset gamble and wait a long time until your next reset.

    you clearly have no idea what your talking about that is not what he said. you still have to spend artefacts getting the desired research. Sazr told about the gambling side of it

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    you clearly have no idea what your talking about that is not what he said. you still have to spend artefacts getting the desired research. Sazr told about the gambling side of it

    I'm the one that has no idea?
    Now that's ignorant...
    No, you do not have to spend artifacts if you keep spending DM to reset and roll until you get everything right. In an efficient way you'll spend less artifacts, but if you want you can just keep spending DM all the way until you get exactly what you want. This will cost a lot, will be tedious, but you won't need artifacts for it.
    You don't seem to understand this.

    The Fiercest serpent may be overcome by a swarm of ants.


    - Yamamoto Isoroku

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    you clearly have no idea what your talking about that is not what he said. you still have to spend artefacts getting the desired research. Sazr told about the gambling side of it

    I'm the one that has no idea?
    Now that's ignorant...
    No, you do not have to spend artifacts if you keep spending DM to reset and roll until you get everything right. In an efficient way you'll spend less artifacts, but if you want you can just keep spending DM all the way until you get exactly what you want. This will cost a lot, will be tedious, but you won't need artifacts for it.
    You don't seem to understand this.

    Sarz explained this already after you commented with a very poor comment. What he said was perfectly understandable, thanks for retyping what he said however.

    This might seem like a valid option to you, since you brought this up. For most people this option is no option at all. its pure gambling hoping you hit the correct research.

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  • This looks like a peoblem only for UNI1 and Vega because players with a bunch od years eco and fleet development get LF

    Even tier 3 technologies need at most 100 days of discoveries

    I think you can manage a bit of patience

  • Hello everyone,

    The poll is now closed, thank you all for your contribution.

    With a majority of "Yes" (57%), the proposal is validated by the community and will soon be submitted to GF.

    Thank you for your suggestion and participation !

    KaZe

  • .KaZe.

    Closed the thread.
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