Vega 2.0

  • This 100%. To call the merge logic brain-dead would be a compliment. If random servers were pulled out of a hat it would have been better than the options given. Rather the aim of the merge seems to be to piss off as much of the player base as possible. I don't see why a vote hurts here.


    Mods may be correct that it will not pass but why leave it to chance? Either it passes and the majority are happy or it fails and the majority are happy.

  • Not having deut to debris seems absurd in my opinion. It really does. The only ones that truly benefit from it is GF.
    Any smaller raiders will have to use the merchant after every hit.


    These three hits should showcase perfectly why this implementation is needed.
    [TOT: 613.046.676.000] MuadDib vs. Technorat Cosmos & Ripper (A: 517.678.051.000, D: 95.368.625.000)

    [TOT: 113.984.443.000] JOK-LY vs. Technorat Cosmos (A: 75.229.675.000, D: 38.754.768.000)

    [TOT: 97.857.825.000] Solo vs. Technorat Cosmos (A: 85.631.040.000, D: 12.226.785.000)

    A total of (roughly) 205bn metal and 265bn crystal and 0 deut in the debris of these 3 hits.
    Now if you were to convert that via the merchant to deut. Assuming you only convert the crystal then your BEST CASE RATIO is 2:1. Which makes deut TWICE as valuable as crystal. Now that is (in my humble opinion) a completely absurd ratio. Say you had deut to debris and you were trading with players, then the ratio most likely would be between 3-1,5-1 and 2,5-1,2-1 AND Im sure some people would do 1-1 crystal to deut as crystal is used for many very essential things, but instead we're stuck with BEST CASE SCENARIO in the merchant being 2:1 - Worst case is like 2-0,5 ? or something absurd.

    Now it was mentioned earlier that any top player wouldnt care as they have really big storages and likely have dark matter floating - and I tend to agree. This no deut to debris hurts any raiders that arent floating dark matter and doesnt have invested hugely in their storages.
    Not only is this uni very expensive in deut when sending - combined with the fact that its a slow uni so most would be online / come online, during the attack. Thats a lot of deut gone there already.
    Then you add the fact that you have to rebuild all your deut ships out of own pocket. Thats basically cutting any profit in those hits in HALF because we have to merchant crystal to deut.


    Its the most discouraging feeling as a raider or anyone making hits, ninjas or the like, to suddenly have to spend dark matter AND cut their profits down by a lot, simply because deut isnt a part of the debris.

    I cant for the life of me imagine miners will be affected by this. Atleast not heavily. Deut to debris will mean more fleeters. More fleeters will mean less focus on raiding miners. Miners will still be able to sell deut to any and all raiders.
    I have never ever said no to a deut trade, even when I was in my old deut-to-debris uni and that uni had 50%deut consumption reduction instead of this unis 30%.

    Dont let this uni die from people being discouraged from attacking because of the HUGE bottleneck the deut currently is.
    Make the uni more balanced and healthy. Encourage people to have fun without worrying about what happens after. Dont let GF win by having to merchant several times after every hit.

    Sorry for the wall of text, but its so demotivating raiding with these settings. Hope everyone can see it from my point of view - and anyone else trying to raid's point of view - EVEN if you are a miner or the like.

    Regardless what side you lean I STRONGLY suggest you remember to vote when the poll eventually comes up.
    Thanks in advance.

    Old school gamer

  • Hello !!


    The poll has started and will close on June 1 at 4pm.

    I'll let you know the results when I have them (not before the beginning of the week following the end of the poll).

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  • x2 friendly --> x4 friendly seems popular. I wouldn't mind this one passing.


    I'm not sure deuterium into debris will pass on it's own. Had it been combined with a lower overall debris size, then it probably would have.


    I do not see 70% of the uni voting for 70% debris to be decreased to 60%. 60% was only suggested as a compromise for enabling deuterium into debris.


    It's a shame deuterium into debris and debris size were split into two options instead of a combo.

  • i think changing any fleet speed will cause a fair drop it players, the uni will be dead again in a month or two

    deut to DF is a good idea at this stage i think

    "Don't ever hunt what you can't possibly kill"


    DOP

  • i think changing any fleet speed will cause a fair drop it players, the uni will be dead again in a month or two

    deut to DF is a good idea at this stage i think

    It's only peaceful fleet speed. I think benefits outweigh the downsides. Everyone gets faster expos, faster transports. Hostile attacks will still stay at 2x.


    Only downside I can think of is maybe it changes fleetsave habits

  • i think changing any fleet speed will cause a fair drop it players, the uni will be dead again in a month or two

    deut to DF is a good idea at this stage i think

    It's only peaceful fleet speed. I think benefits outweigh the downsides. Everyone gets faster expos, faster transports. Hostile attacks will still stay at 2x.


    Only downside I can think of is maybe it changes fleetsave habits

    yes thats correct only fleetsave habbits but thats a big deal for most people who need a long fleetsave for work or know there going to be busy or whatever, most people, me included, came to vega because of the fleet speed which suited us, i don't think we should be messing around with it

    "Don't ever hunt what you can't possibly kill"


    DOP

  • Yea I agree. A shame indeed. I just pray we get the deut to debris implemented. The two others I dont mind staying, but I fear it wont pass - and by it not passing the uni will go stale. The hits will be fewer and further apart as the risk of sending isnt worth it.

    Too soon to say for sure what the outcome will be, but I guess we'll see

    Old school gamer

  • Hello !!


    The poll has started and will close on June 1 at 4pm.

    I'll let you know the results when I have them (not before the beginning of the week following the end of the poll).


    poll has started?

    where?

    i dont see anything ingame


    nevermind, i found it in the spam inbox, one would think a new tab or a pop up of somekind would appear, not hidden in one of the ogame spam boxes for selling stuff and what not..


    good luck when no one who reads the forums will vote not knowing a vote for anything is actually going on.

  • Dear players,


    We have received inquiries about this poll and complaints that it was not what was requested on the forum. And it's true, we made a mistake when requesting the poll.


    So, to compensate for this error, it has been decided to keep the results of the Fleet Peaceful vote (which was not affected by the error), but to have you vote again this week for the other option (Deut into DF/DF).

    This time we will provide the poll in the manner which was requested, as opposed to the way we have done it now.


    We would like to apologize for the inconvenience and give you the results for the Fleet Peaceful speed:


    Results:

    - Fleet Peaceful speed x2: 76 votes (29%)

    - Fleet Peaceful speed x4: 187 votes (71%)


    This result is final and the date of the change will be communicated after the results of the new vote.

    The new poll for "Enable Deuterium to Debris Field + Lower Debris field percentage from 70 to 60" will be sent IG soon.

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  • well..miners/expoers have a "win"

    now its time to return the favour to fleeters and go for

    60% df and deut into debris


    and just a reminder..cargos still dont make deut in df,

    so dont be hesitant
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  • Hello,


    The poll has been sent out and will be open until June 12 at 4pm.

    When we have the results, we'll let you know on this topic !

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  • I don't have them

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