One day we all end up in UNI1 following brainless merges, where I wouldn't personally be surprised picking between uni1 or uni300 or 301 next year, as these legit choices.
Thumbs up for a change.
One day we all end up in UNI1 following brainless merges, where I wouldn't personally be surprised picking between uni1 or uni300 or 301 next year, as these legit choices.
Thumbs up for a change.
I personally would not support any change mentioned here if any speed ( fleet or economy ) increase was part of the deal.
I came here to uni 1 from a 1X speed uni, have always played my main in 1X uni's, I have played speed uni's and hated them.
Back in the day everything was 1X and it took skill to grow your account, no DM, no officers.
I also wouldn't support deut to d/f.
I'm not to happy about the newcomers to our uni coming here knowing what the setting were and then trying to change them, if you weren't happy with them, then why come here.
There that's my 2 bobs worth
I think the idea faces two major hurdles.
Firstly, GameForge won't change the uni setting anytime soon. After the infamous update disaster, they will avoid any risk of alienating the player base further.
However, that doesn't mean this discussion is useless. If we can sell any proposal as a coherent and desired change, they might take it for a redemption opportunity.
Secondly, we have no idea on what basis they make decisions about universes' settings. All our reasoning might be out of touch because executives view the game from completely different lenses.
What I would love to see is an actual streamlined communication, between us and a decision maker. Is that possible?
Display MoreOkay so a few have DMd me on Discord too with similar thoughts to the above.
So is this more feasible for most?
30% DF With Deut to debris
40% DF With deut to Debris
50% DF with NO Deut to Debris
i think to keep the vote simple 30% df with deut or 50% no deut.
Less options more chance of a pass chance
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Options to vote must include NO CHANGES.
I wiil vote it,
AK
Options to vote must include NO CHANGES.
I wiil vote it,
AK
in that instance you just vote No to all settings changes on the poll. Then you have voted for no changes.
Though can I ask why you say this?
Hi KR!!!
I´m old fashioned player. I´m an exclusive miner, sure without your skills and dedication. I see my account every 24 hours at least.
I like current settings although 30% DF or 40%DF are the same for me but one change now, will open doors to new changes in original settings 8x1x1x1 (I´ve got this account looking for this).
I my opinion there are no little changes like these to get more benefits for anyone even fleeters (except for records).
Dynamics in Ancient universes are like this.
Sorry
AK
Display MoreHi KR!!!
I´m old fashioned player. I´m an exclusive miner, sure without your skills and dedication. I see my account every 24 hours at least.
I like current settings although 30% DF or 40%DF are the same for me but one change now, will open doors to new changes in original settings 8x1x1x1 (I´ve got this account looking for this).
I my opinion there are no little changes like these to get more benefits for anyone even fleeters (except for records).
Dynamics in Ancient universes are like this.
Sorry
AK
No need to apologise. It’s your thoughts. I too am a long time player myself though I did have a bit of a break.
We are not looking to change speed of universe imo. Just to add a bit more DF. This will help fleeters hunt fleeters more not miners. Afterall when a miner is hit most of the profit is the loot inside the cargos, not the cargos them selves. We’re not looking for massive increases in this either, we have tried that before and failed.
I believe that 10% or deut to DF is a small amount yet a massive step to help fleeters hit other fleets. Not for myself either because I can basically profit of most fleets in the uni quite easily, however some of the lower ranked players this could be a massive improvement for and help to drive more activity in our ancient universe.
The comment about one change will open the door is incorrect, there is a small minority of players who would like increased speed. Most come to uni 1 for the 1x speed so I don’t ever see that changing! Myself included. All changes need to have a vote and can only be done once every 6 months anyway, so the players including yourself are still in control for any further change requests.
Miners have the 8x eco already which is away from the ancient settings you mentioned. Why not let the fleeters have something more. They currently have the ancient base settings still!
You are right....In the beginning Eco 1.
But in other universes settings like DiDF were not possible to play for me.
Good luck
You are right....In the beginning Eco 1.
But in other universes settings like DiDF were not possible to play for me.
Good luck
Thanks,
defence into debris I agree no one wants that. Opens a whole kettle of fish for bashing defence for no reason.
Just an increase in debris from fleet crashing is all we looking at here.
Whether that includes deut or just an old fashioned increase remains to be seen.
Im a old timer to this game also AK. I didnt want lifeforms. In pervious uni's i didnt want deut into debri.
Im not always one for change.
But a 50% debri in my eyes would make attacking abit more appealing.
Plus without the deut into debri miners could profit more with trades. Because more fleets will need to be fueled.
Also as KR said,this will help Fleeters attack other fleeters.
Thats my opinion.
Based on past merges where people who like to fleet were annoyed at having everything slowed down so much compared to what they were used to, those who have continued to play have adjusted to the more relaxed pacing of 1x and the different challenges there are than in "speed universes". I dare say some might even like it for its different challenges compared to the faster speed universes. There is no way overall ship speeds are going to change (the only conversation I've ever seen with any seriousness was the return speed of probes being increased, like they have to slowly approach the planet at the speed they already do in order to "spy" but then they "run away", but even that didn't turn out to be a popular enough idea).
Ship speeds are unlikely to even come up for a vote, let alone pass one, so while I understand why people are worried about that, it's not going to happen. Even a lot of the biggest fleeters don't want to see that change.
Also, preemptively, changing the deut consumption rate of ships to less than 1.0x would be an even bigger issue than adding deut to debris field. One of the biggest arguments is that miners want to have some balance to the fleeter/miner in-game relationship where fleeters have had less incentive to care about miners since merching for deut became popular. The more deut that is going around, the more likely miners are to be treated like farms instead of as legitimate partners in the overall game eco system because whether they trade deut or not doesn't matter.
Hi everyone, I like universe 1 as it is . No change
players with more than 100M BC lol how we could say balance the game with 50% debris
all the fleeters are for bigger df even if all of us knowing that it's always somebody who chasing us and whant to take us down, and still we are all keen with that, because will make worth chasing and spending time observing and bring more incentive to big attack , surprisingly don't like the idea some miners in top 500/ 800
Hi everyone, I like universe 1 as it is . No change
players with more than 100M BC lol how we could say balance the game with 50% debris
Hello there dear karl,
I am unsure how many players have 100m BC but I can respond on my behalf;
- Having 100m BC is the result of 8x economy speed maybe? In your way of thinking, maybe you should create a poll in order to ask for reducing the economy speed to 1x so I'd have 1/8 of the BC's I currently have, eh?
Also I respect but don't understand why you are in favor of no change despite building a few million BC's yourself. You want to effectively fleetsave them? Okay...
As I stated, I respect to any opinion, by balance I mean the balance that GF had named itself in past. To make you grasp it easier, check mmorpg .en universe's and see the tags of 'balanced, fleeter, miner'. See the spec's of those universe's and why the 'balanced' was given to it and compare the difference's.
To the thread creator or any player who are discussing the subject here, I ask your forgiveness for diverting the thread a little bit in my first paragraph but I belive that I was particularly targeted and since I am neutral to karl, he deserved a reply.
Sincerely, Rya.
I just wanna laugh at all these posts about lack of activity on the cr board
If you think there are not enough hits happening get off your dead @$$ and launch a freakin attack
As for changes ... we dont need no stinkin changes ! this game is already far too different from what I started playing over 20 years ago
I just wanna laugh at all these posts about lack of activity on the cr board
If you think there are not enough hits happening get off your dead @$$ and launch a freakin attack
As for changes ... we dont need no stinkin changes ! this game is already far too different from what I started playing over 20 years ago
PSA: The game is not the same as it was 20 years ago. Sure the core mechanics are but it’s not the same. Games need to evolve and change with the times. Maybe one of the reasons Ogame, a spreadsheet browser game has managed to stay around for sooo long when lots of other browsers games are dead in the water.
As for the CR section being alive, it’s barely a sliver of the activity it used to be other than some farming hits. Though the same can be said for the whole boards in fairness
Display MoreI just wanna laugh at all these posts about lack of activity on the cr board
If you think there are not enough hits happening get off your dead @$$ and launch a freakin attack
As for changes ... we dont need no stinkin changes ! this game is already far too different from what I started playing over 20 years ago
PSA: The game is not the same as it was 20 years ago. Sure the core mechanics are but it’s not the same. Games need to evolve and change with the times. Maybe one of the reasons Ogame a spreadsheet browser game has managed to stay around for sooo long when lots of other browsers games are dead in the water.
As for the CR section being alive, it’s barely a sliver of the activity it used to be other than some farming hits. Though the same can be said for the whole boards in fairness
You make valid points and are probably correct in your assesment of o-cracks ability to survive
But being a cantankerous old man who is not a fan of many of the changes to ogame over the years, I just had to share my 2¢
I wasn't pointing nobody, just stating my opinion
the game will never be fair or balanced , who has the biggest wallet win... I spent 800 dollars in the last two months and gained over 3Bn points, now looking at the rank I don't wanna imagine how much the top 10 spent.
so why we talk about balance the game with more debris? To make happy the players who spent thousands dollars?
GF did many updates and changes and make the game worst .. I started in 2002 uni 4 that one was a good time to play
I will respect the decision of the majority but for me isn't the 50% debris that will keep the universe alive
we get some decision here? , let have a poll, vote, and move on another 6 month