why gifting code is disappear????

    Hello, it is no longer possible to make donations and exchanges since V12 and the appearance of successes specific to each account. I imagine that the GF would like to find a solution to prevent successes from being exchanged easily and quickly thanks to donations and exchanges.

    For the time being, we have no information on when the system will be up and running again.

    Quote from .KaZe.

    Hello, it is no longer possible to make donations and exchanges since V12 and the appearance of successes specific to each account. I imagine that the GF would like to find a solution to prevent successes from being exchanged easily and quickly thanks to donations and exchanges.

    Why would GF care about such a thing? Shouldn't their focus be on number of 'active' users? Would GF really like to see an old universe where 2 - 3 players are active while the rest of the players quit and couldn't gift their accounts to active users who are willing to spend?


    Isn't this hurting their revenue or do they simply not think that far?

    Don't let the game play you, instead of that Vmode fleetsave and play the game whenever you want.

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    Quote from .KaZe.

    Hello, it is no longer possible to make donations and exchanges since V12 and the appearance of successes specific to each account. I imagine that the GF would like to find a solution to prevent successes from being exchanged easily and quickly thanks to donations and exchanges.

    Why would GF care about such a thing? Shouldn't their focus be on number of 'active' users? Would GF really like to see an old universe where 2 - 3 players are active while the rest of the players quit and couldn't gift their accounts to active users who are willing to spend?


    Isn't this hurting their revenue or do they simply not think that far?

    2-3 active players who spend several hundred or even thousands of euros each month are still more interesting for GameForge than 400 players who spend just a few euros here and there. So yes, I imagine they must be very happy to see only a few players per universe, as long as they're spending money.

    And don't forget that certain avatars or achievements require large accounts or dark matter. So it's more profitable for them if players “seek” to obtain these achievements, even if it means spending a few euros, rather than giving them away easily and free of charge via donations and account swaps.

    that is mighty fine thinking from GF

    it also means ppl like me who had some fun in new uni

    now leave top30 account to rot in vmode (already top 80 with a week of vmode, in a month it`ll be useless)

    instead of giving it away

    and im sure im not the only one who wanted some temporary fun and now cant give account away


    maybe, just maybe, make it so that you cannot add an account that has more

    achievements done/points than the other account(s) in lobby

    because if gifting is permanently disabled, we`ll only keep seeing the decline of active accounts


    One simple yet viable option is enable gifting into empty lobby only

    That will prevent sharing of achievements, but allow players to trade/give away acc


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    Quote from .KaZe.

    Hello, it is no longer possible to make donations and exchanges since V12 and the appearance of successes specific to each account. I imagine that the GF would like to find a solution to prevent successes from being exchanged easily and quickly thanks to donations and exchanges.

    For the time being, we have no information on when the system will be up and running again.

    Shouldn't the Account trading board be deleted? Why do GF leave it?

    Quote from .KaZe.

    2-3 active players who spend several hundred or even thousands of euros each month are still more interesting for GameForge than 400 players who spend just a few euros here and there. So yes, I imagine they must be very happy to see only a few players per universe, as long as they're spending money.

    That is the most ridiculous things i've heard in a while, spenders will spend regardless if the universe is empty or not, maybe a bit more if the universe is active. How do you come up with things like this?

    Don't let the game play you, instead of that Vmode fleetsave and play the game whenever you want.

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    Quote from .KaZe.

    Hello, it is no longer possible to make donations and exchanges since V12 and the appearance of successes specific to each account. I imagine that the GF would like to find a solution to prevent successes from being exchanged easily and quickly thanks to donations and exchanges.

    For the time being, we have no information on when the system will be up and running again.

    Shouldn't the Account trading board be deleted? Why do GF leave it?

    The feature will return at a later date, until it has been corrected. Don't be fooled into thinking that it will be impossible to exchange or give away an account ad vitam eternam.


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    Quote from .KaZe.

    2-3 active players who spend several hundred or even thousands of euros each month are still more interesting for GameForge than 400 players who spend just a few euros here and there. So yes, I imagine they must be very happy to see only a few players per universe, as long as they're spending money.

    That is the most ridiculous things i've heard in a while, spenders will spend regardless if the universe is empty or not, maybe a bit more if the universe is active. How do you come up with things like this?

    It may be the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard, but it's a fact - too bad if you don't like it, it'll be the same thing.

    GameForge opens new universes at regular intervals - every 42 days or so - to benefit from the hype of a new universe, which will generate a frantic race to the top of the ranking. Then, once that's done, the best players will continue to spend their money to an ever-bigger account, while the rest will move on to the next universe, and so on. If this model has worked for years, it's undoubtedly because GameForge finds it so profitable. I'm not saying it's a model I like and that it's “healthy” for gaming, I'm just saying that, thinking like a business, it's the best way to be profitable. And, once again, as long as the big whales keep pumping crazy amounts of money into the game, it won't change.


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    Is they are in plan to fix this issue or what is in plan, that is the right question?

    We don't have any information at the moment, but I think GameForge is working on a fix. It would be very strange not to be able to exchange or give accounts right now.

    Quote from .KaZe.

    it's a fact

    I didn't realize volunteers have details of GF's revenue, and internal growth strategies.

    I disagree with your assumptions, you're just focused on the big spenders, but what you lack in vision is the additional income that come from 100s of players.

    Quote from .KaZe.

    GameForge opens new universes at regular intervals - every 42 days or so - to benefit from the hype of a new universe, which will generate a frantic race to the top of the ranking. Then, once that's done, the best players will continue to spend their money to an ever-bigger account, while the rest will move on to the next universe, and so on. If this model has worked for years, it's undoubtedly because GameForge finds it so profitable. I'm not saying it's a model I like and that it's “healthy” for gaming, I'm just saying that, thinking like a business, it's the best way to be profitable. And, once again, as long as the big whales keep pumping crazy amounts of money into the game, it won't change.

    How is any of this linked to the gifting code bug and your assumption that Gameforge doesn't want that as an option, I guess I didn't bring my tinfoil hat .


    You're mixing many things and trying to link it to the gifting code issue. A wild theory, but a theory... your theory.

    Don't let the game play you, instead of that Vmode fleetsave and play the game whenever you want.

    Quote from MikeGrinder6

    I didn't realize volunteers have details of GF's revenue, and internal growth strategies.

    I disagree with your assumptions, you're just focused on the big spenders, but what you lack in vision is the additional income that come from 100s of players.

    And I think you lack vision about the reality of the video game market. Google is your friend to find out more about this, but I'll just throw out a figure that speaks volumes: 0.23% of gamers (the famous "whales") generate around 64% of game & mobile game revenues based on microtransactions. So when almost 2/3 of your income comes from the biggest payers, it makes sense to base your strategy on them.


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    How is any of this linked to the gifting code bug and your assumption that Gameforge doesn't want that as an option, I guess I didn't bring my tinfoil hat .


    You're mixing many things and trying to link it to the gifting code issue. A wild theory, but a theory... your theory.

    I've already answered the question above: some successes can be achieved with large accounts or the purchase of dark matter. GameForge doesn't want achievements to be obtained quickly and circulated between the various lobbies too easily to force players to unlock them. And so, ideally, GameForge wants them to play intensely, for a long time and spend money. That is, until they find a way to prevent achievements and avatars from being easily exchanged.

    Quote from .KaZe.

    I'll just throw out a figure that speaks volumes: 0.23% of gamers (the famous "whales") generate around 64% of game & mobile game revenues based on microtransactions.

    You do realize that the majority of the whales or the big spenders are sitting on their accounts only because it was 'gifted' to them. What are the probability for a whale to spend as much as they are spending today but on a new account? I'd say pretty low.


    You can pull numbers from Google, but you also have to think of the actual reality. Also, I never disagreed that whales are the the majority percentage of GF's revenue, but on the other side the small transactions amounts to almost 40% based on your Google search. No organization with half a brain will start experimenting with 40% of their revenue stream.

    Quote from .KaZe.

    I've already answered the question above: some successes can be achieved with large accounts or the purchase of dark matter. GameForge doesn't want achievements to be obtained quickly and circulated between the various lobbies too easily to force players to unlock them. And so, ideally, GameForge wants them to play intensely, for a long time and spend money. That is, until they find a way to prevent achievements and avatars from being easily exchanged.

    Now, i'm doubting if you even play this game. The majority don't care about achievements and avatars, so you're telling us that GF's blocking account transfer because they don't want something that nobody cares about to be transferred easily?


    I'll be honest, didn't see that coming. I mean forget about mines, research, lifeforms, fleet... It's about the avatars and achievements.


    Thanks for the laugh, truly. Enjoy the rest of your day and try to remove the tinfoil hat every now and then.

    Don't let the game play you, instead of that Vmode fleetsave and play the game whenever you want.

    Oh excuse me Nostradamus, I wasn't aware that you knew the opinion of all the players in all the communities and that you already know in advance that the next season universe coming out in 2 weeks will be a flop because 100% of the players don't care about the new features. I also didn't know that you knew exactly the reasons why GameForge blocked donations and account exchanges. I guess there's nothing more I can tell you, so I won't waste any more time talking to you :)

    Quote from .KaZe.

    Oh excuse me Nostradamus, I wasn't aware that you knew the opinion of all the players in all the communities and that you already know in advance that the next season universe coming out in 2 weeks will be a flop because 100% of the players don't care about the new features. I also didn't know that you knew exactly the reasons why GameForge blocked donations and account exchanges. I guess there's nothing more I can tell you, so I won't waste any more time talking to you :)

    No need to get triggered, we're having a healthy discussion. Maybe let's leave the passive aggressiveness out of this conversation?

    You say facts and have nothing to back it up with, but at least we can see here on our very own form on how many people were pumped and enthusiastic about the achievement/avatar/skin update. avatar achievements discussion thread. Plus, my network within this game is pretty decent and everyone I spoke to had nothing positive to say about this update, they're just indifferent to it or hate it because of all the new bugs it introduced.


    Also, regardless of what the reward of the season universe is, whether it's skin, coupons, ,plush or a hand sanitizer, players will still compete, it's human nature.

    Remember, as an S-Mod you should remain neutral and not let your emotion or ego get the best of you. :wink3:

    Don't let the game play you, instead of that Vmode fleetsave and play the game whenever you want.

    Quote from MikeGrinder6

    Remember, as an S-Mod you should remain neutral and not let your emotion or ego get the best of you. :wink3:

    If you think I've been overwhelmed by emotion during this discussion with you, I regret to inform you that you may be disappointed. I simply adapted to what you had to say. You talk as if you know everything very well and, according to you, this story of the cessation of exchanges and donations of accounts is not at all linked to the arrival of the V12. Great, thanks for teaching me something. So, please tell me, what's the reason for stopping this feature at the moment ?

    Quote from .KaZe.
    Quote from MikeGrinder6

    Remember, as an S-Mod you should remain neutral and not let your emotion or ego get the best of you. :wink3:

    If you think I've been overwhelmed by emotion during this discussion with you, I regret to inform you that you may be disappointed. I simply adapted to what you had to say. You talk as if you know everything very well and, according to you, this story of the cessation of exchanges and donations of accounts is not at all linked to the arrival of the V12. Great, thanks for teaching me something. So, please tell me, what's the reason for stopping this feature at the moment ?

    Only reason stopping the feature or doing anything is the fact that GF doesn´t give a F... about opinions, only about revenue as mentioned...

    Pure example is not opening one single uni without DM !

    Which was requested by at least 98,5% of community , but guess what ?!

    There is no revenue !!

    Anything more to add??

    Don´t Drink Water, Fish have Sex in it :sixstars::sixstars::sixstars:

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    Quote from .KaZe.

    Oh excuse me Nostradamus, I wasn't aware that you knew the opinion of all the players in all the communities and that you already know in advance that the next season universe coming out in 2 weeks will be a flop because 100% of the players don't care about the new features. I also didn't know that you knew exactly the reasons why GameForge blocked donations and account exchanges. I guess there's nothing more I can tell you, so I won't waste any more time talking to you :)

    No need to get triggered, we're having a healthy discussion. Maybe let's leave the passive aggressiveness out of this conversation?

    You say facts and have nothing to back it up with, but at least we can see here on our very own form on how many people were pumped and enthusiastic about the achievement/avatar/skin update. avatar achievements discussion thread. Plus, my network within this game is pretty decent and everyone I spoke to had nothing positive to say about this update, they're just indifferent to it or hate it because of all the new bugs it introduced.


    Also, regardless of what the reward of the season universe is, whether it's skin, coupons, ,plush or a hand sanitizer, players will still compete, it's human nature.

    Remember, as an S-Mod you should remain neutral and not let your emotion or ego get the best of you. :wink3:

    Haha, what flew up in your arse? No need to be sensitive for each answer.


    Look kid, this discourse is already over to begin with. For every answer you get you just bash right back. Sure, you have some valid points sometimes but it won't help when sounding like a baby and thinking that is a healthy discussion. Made me laugh though.


    Know this: GF will do things that yields more money, whatever it is. Cash is king.

    Who even are you? Is this some kind of new-gen fit? Throw your tantrum elsewhere, dude.


    Need answers, I believe everything you need is in the thread.

    Don't let the game play you, instead of that Vmode fleetsave and play the game whenever you want.