Man what a fun day this was. Congrats to all who were involved and helped out. FR tizoc as crazy as it sounds still only a scratch on your account.
ACS Top 01 - [TOT: 53.823.475.076.200] Zero Two [APE] & Worldeater [Spook] & King Rabbit [Fix] & AGoodSydney [FREE] vs. Tizoc [TYC] (A: 7.460.973.676.200, D: 46.362.501.400.000)
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now lets get on topic :
so our buddy zerotwo doesnt explain how he and sydney added a total of 30t points in fleet in one hour or something they insta a total of +2m rip/and some other ships to make the hit happened , without packing without having that much res stored , ofc he doesnt explain you about this part but ty god not everybody is stupid and not everybody started playing vs these guys 1-2months ago so we know whats up
diff community huh? there is same situation in this comm too and mods knows that and they said no cr no hit nothing we can do and yet they changed everything just for you guys all of a sudden and listen i am not saying hit shouldnt happened but i am just saying how rules changed so easy in this case
by Neotineayou was also lucky to have all the sell-outs that you smashed multiple times joining you and helping you all this time like - zero said in other hit vs apostle he was in vmode taking a 'break' from october yet he come out in a heartbeat sometimes in the meantime and made some hits or attempted....they amount of lies being told and hypocrisy is off the charts but aint nobody gonna tell you the truth yet they are here parading for doing all these stuff leading to these hits with them bugged accs just to give a 5% dmg to Tiz acc alongside people that hated them but joined them cause they wanted to see us going down so bad ,at least i wont change team for my own benefit playing politic and diplomacy games , i 'd rather retire than become what i hate
***btw where is worldeater come on people you made nn1 hit let the guy reveal himself before i do it myself for him , what is he waiting for ? gta 6? lol i know it took rabbit half a year to reveal himself but come on now;p
prop to darkstorm too for being at dye yet questioning some things , maybe not everyone is a sell out after all
props to go(s) too for trying to rob tiz of lf building scooping df for him too they made a good job trying to rob him a couple of trill res but at least we got that part right
maybe next time they will make a custom cr for you vs 9.5m rips LOL
funny how people who weren’t part of the hit and have zero visibility into our accounts now suddenly know exactly who packed what, how much packs and res we had stored, and whether packs were used. impressive clairvoyance.
as for the “custom treatment” claim: this was the first time in EN that a hit of this size choked the combat script, but it’s not the first time this kind of case was handled like this in OGame. support confirmed that EN would follow the same procedure, just like other communities have done in similar situations.
and look, throwing around vague accusations about “bugged accounts” and “impossible queues” without a single fact to back it up doesn’t make you look informed. it just makes it clear you’ve got no idea what actually happened.
if you think something was mishandled, take it to support. otherwise, all this just sounds like salt and speculation.
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Game forge just preferred to have 4 spenders instead of one, that's it.
In some other cases this was irregular fight and nothing was done,ofc in case of Tizoc GF knows how much he needs to spend to get his fleet back.
I must say that Prongs and company tried everything to give attackers every single resource,good to know that at least someone finally listened proofs of Tizoc to get something in return.
Indeed massive fight,a lot of numbers, great teamwork,a lot of money spent on questionable queues but in the end with fight like this you can just say Congrats.
Tizoc sorry to see you down in a way like this ,when you just went to help but instead finished recycled.VFR
ah, the usual cocktail of speculation and salt.
let's keep it simple: nothing about this hit was irregular. nothing was done behind closed doors. no rules were bent, no favors pulled. the only thing questionable here is the effort to spin a clean hit into some kind of conspiracy.
everyone involved flew their fleets, took their risks, and made the hit happen. support followed procedure, just like they’ve done before in big fights where the script chokes. no more, no less.
the rest is just noise.
Well this speculation has some merits into it:
At first GF gave him their sim (using the old battle sim) as results of the battle - claiming that everything was accounted for:
1) Spacedock was accounted for but no ARP (Advance Recycling Plant (Lifeform building)) was included
- Tizzoc disputed that he has lvl 25 ARP2) They double checked and then when "oh you have APR" but claimed he only had lvl 9 (even though no APR was accounted for from the previous response).
- Tizzoc disputed again
3) They used MMORPG as reference to support lvl 9 ARP claim
- Tizzoc provided additional evidence4) They investigated it again and apologized that he was correct and gave out the correct results.
This wasn't his first rodeo that he been cut short but he had to dispute hard just to make sure it was done somewhat correctly. -
Display MoreWell this speculation has some merits into it:
At first GF gave him their sim (using the old battle sim) as results of the battle - claiming that everything was accounted for:
1) Spacedock was accounted for but no ARP (Advance Recycling Plant (Lifeform building)) was included
- Tizzoc disputed that he has lvl 25 ARP2) They double checked and then when "oh you have APR" but claimed he only had lvl 9 (even though no APR was accounted for from the previous response).
- Tizzoc disputed again
3) They used MMORPG as reference to support lvl 9 ARP claim
- Tizzoc provided additional evidence4) They investigated it again and apologized that he was correct and gave out the correct results.
This wasn't his first rodeo that he been cut short but he had to dispute hard just to make sure it was done somewhat correctly.thanks for laying that out, because honestly, it proves the exact opposite of what some are trying to claim.
support made an initial error, the defender provided valid evidence, and support acknowledged the mistake and corrected it. that’s not favoritism, that’s just… support doing its job. investigating, responding, updating the outcome accordingly. if anything, it shows the process worked as it should.
if that’s the foundation for the “bias” theory, it’s a pretty shaky one.
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I really dont want to be haiku or passive agressive, as Ive seen it all and I have to give credit where its due!
Attackers played this flawlessly. Every single step of this hit was calculated and executed to perfection. So I have to say great game from you, congrats, and I think in the end, you deserve this CR and this hit.
However,
It is truth that this CR did not happen and it was MANUALLY processed, weeks after is was supposed to happen.
Does this means that all the other players in same or similar situation were simply robbed of their time and money? Maybe they didnt have enough influence or the person processing just didnt care that day... We have a funny situation now where some of us just get reply :"we cant do NOTHING about it" while others get 1. instant reactions when the fleet was frozen and 2. favorable outcome and fair fight.
In any case WE the players shouldnt be arguing and fighting about it, but as scorer said we shoud somehow try together to get them to fix the game so we can have the same rules for everyone!
Tiz, Im really inspired with your action to go and defend a friend knowing the risk. It turned to be greater loss but not everything is in numbers and points. You bilt them in a few days and im sure you will build many many more. . . FR
zero2, You have mentioned multiple times that Tiz was packing and instaing like crazy, and still it was not enough...Out of interest how much did you 4 insta build on that day?
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thanks for laying that out, because honestly, it proves the exact opposite of what some are trying to claim.
support made an initial error, the defender provided valid evidence, and support acknowledged the mistake and corrected it. that’s not favoritism, that’s just… support doing its job. investigating, responding, updating the outcome accordingly. if anything, it shows the process worked as it should.
if that’s the foundation for the “bias” theory, it’s a pretty shaky one.
The argument was we often have to dispute it just to get it right, when it shouldn't be.... unless it is the norm on both parties. I am curious what you guys put down in your tickets to see the other side of the coin. You know where to find me on discord if you are willing to share.
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The argument was we often have to dispute it just to get it right, when it shouldn't be.... unless it is the norm on both parties. I am curious what you guys put down in your tickets to see the other side of the coin. You know where to find me on discord if you are willing to share.
sure, and we had to go back and forth too. there were corrections on both sides, just like you’d expect when support has to manually reconstruct a fight of this scale. that’s not a flaw in the system, that is the system.
no need to read too much into it. everyone involved had the same process, the same path to dispute and clarify. and it played out exactly as it should.
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However,
It is truth that this CR did not happen and it was MANUALLY processed, weeks after is was supposed to happen.
Does this means that all the other players in same or similar situation were simply robbed of their time and money? Maybe they didnt have enough influence or the person processing just didnt care that day... We have a funny situation now where some of us just get reply :"we cant do NOTHING about it" while others get 1. instant reactions when the fleet was frozen and 2. favorable outcome and fair fight.
Yeah unfortunately they went that route (manually processed) - part of the reason why it took a while is because the GF staff members/dev had a holiday week - so they were off work for several days. Moderators can't do anything at that time.
As for the "instant reactions" when the fleet was frozen, I talked to some of the moderators: you are allowed to reach out to them through discord for emergencies like this, but for any active ticket related details must be discussed through the ticket system. -
Amazing fight, good story lovely read. Thuban never disappoints. I must chime in as fleeter who had multiple no CR mishaps where org staff said sorry f.. you no CR no compensation story, I will refrence this fight for future. So thanks Zero2 for making precedence. And you are mistaking some of people being salty , they just want equal treatment no matter who is in CR.
One more time fantastic fight and profit. I hope more records will be broken here.
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zero2, You have mentioned multiple times that Tiz was packing and instaing like crazy, and still it was not enough...Out of interest how much did you 4 insta build on that day?
14 bn points zero2 and 7bn sydney
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The argument was we often have to dispute it just to get it right, when it shouldn't be.... unless it is the norm on both parties. I am curious what you guys put down in your tickets to see the other side of the coin. You know where to find me on discord if you are willing to share.
sure, and we had to go back and forth too. there were corrections on both sides, just like you’d expect when support has to manually reconstruct a fight of this scale. that’s not a flaw in the system, that is the system.
no need to read too much into it. everyone involved had the same process, the same path to dispute and clarify. and it played out exactly as it should.
Not saying I don't believe you but...I will believe it when I see it (for the sake of transparency)
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Sounds to me like you need to stop loosing your fleet and be involved in big hits, with proper planning.
Well done chaps, proud of you all.
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Amazing fight and story, perfect execution by the attackers! Hell of a hit, crazy to see that this left not even a dent in Tizoc's account
FR not necessary in this case.So Tizoc gained 37b military points that night, 37000/25b a pack = 1480 packs. But what is a few packs among friends
Sometimes even money is not enough to come out on top, I think that is refreshing to see from time to time in this p2w era.
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Watching this go down was the most fun I've had in Ogame for a long while.
Congrats to everyone involved in this monster of a hit.
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Wow this numbers are insane...
Congrats to everybody 👏
One question, how much deuterium you guys used for move all that ships plus recy? 😂
GG and good recostruction to the defender
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the 07 strikes again
massiv fleets , massiv game play
gratz !!
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What beats someone with a massive credit card? 4 people with massive credit cards.
Congrats to Mastercard and Gameforge. They are the only winners here.
Somewhere, Astral is laughing his ass off.
PS, Rabbit... come back to uni 1. Its annoying being the only one around all the time besides weird ass minemaker.
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Eye candy, awesome work to all involved.
GF its 2025,time to progress a bit no?
FR def tho its seems to be done already lolz
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oh, look who's back on the wrong side of a CR, or old acquaintance Tizoc, also known as "i spent only 300 EUR on my account, and it went all on mines" (yes and i am King Charles the 3rd).
I wonder what goes on in the mind of some people in situations like this. You're getting owned no matter what, the best thing you can do is to take the L and move on. But no, he went on some sort of panic-buying frenzy instead and ended up losing way more than anticipated. All money that went straight into feeding his opponents.
The hit is insane. Congratulations to everyone involved (minus the loser of course).
No need to GLOTR the defender because i'm 100% sure he has already re-purchased everything. Legor will probably raise him a toast from his summer holiday in Tahiti, paid in full by the defender himself.
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Well well.
This story is very impressive.
Dominatrix wanted to make fantastic art with Tizoc and she didn't realize it's the trap for Tizoc so it looks like Dominatrix made trap for Tizoc and new worldwide NN1. HAHAHA
Very nice job. Dominatrix!
You are being the best feeder for your enemies.
This time our guys LTL friends seems to be mad because they ve always gotten many hits and lost their money.
Or I doubt They are competing for who guy in LTL is the best donator for enemies.
No.1 Tizoc
2 Apostle
3 Ares
4 Dominatrix
5 Retaliator
Good luck guys for this contest. 🍿
