It is doable and was done in the past but you need to create a ticket first and your friend might need to pay the doot costs of your flight to destroy the ships.
Do it after you get approval via ticket and state that no party is making profits.
Unless the scrapping has to be done quickly, there is always the option of using the scrap merchant, which does not cost anything.
Unless the scrapping has to be done quickly, there is always the option of using the scrap merchant, which does not cost anything.
yes i know, but i think it's clear that:
scrap merchant has maximum 75%, there is some unis with 80% of debris....
to reach 75% you need MO
and finally: if you set up everything correct you have also space dock...
Anyway:
It is doable and was done in the past but you need to create a ticket first and your friend might need to pay the doot costs of your flight to destroy the ships.
Do it after you get approval via ticket and state that no party is making profits.
thank you so much. RyaRaineS did you already tried? Thank you so much
It is doable and was done in the past but you need to create a ticket first and your friend might need to pay the doot costs of your flight to destroy the ships.
Do it after you get approval via ticket and state that no party is making profits.thank you so much. RyaRaineS did you already tried? Thank you so much
Rules say that anything is possible with clarification first and higher ranked not making any illegal profits.
Now in .org since pulling is prohibited, lower ranked can not profit either.
So you need to be meticulous with the process and provide fleet values (attacking, defending), flight cost, coordinates that it will happen and estimated time of the hit/hit’s.
Yes there’s scrapping but I got 25-30m LC’s that I had no use after expeditions patched and didn’t want to invest DM for 75% scrapping and also lacked the huge storage capacities back then so it’d take too many unnecessary scrapping’s.
I got permission and since attacker didn’t have big fleet it took place as 3-4 attacks and I collected all the debris then sent the attacker flight costs. It was 5 years ago though and staff and their perspective change a lot by time. You need to explain it thoroughly and your reasoning for doing it along with guarantee that no illegal profit will be made by any involving player.
Pretty sure that if a stronger player attacks the weaker one you don't need to write any ticket as long as stronger player did not make any profit. In case that somehow weaker player is attacking the stronger one then i think you should do what Rya said and write a ticket explaining the situation and ofcourse return all the losses that the attacker had, including deut cost. So for example weaker player is fleeter and is scrapping some fleet for stronger miner with 1000 BC if weaker one loses 100 BC you need to refund that + deut cost.
Also im pretty sure everyone scraps like that in universes with higher DF % and deut into DF. 50% DF + 25-30% WF, makes no sense to scrap thru scrap merchant. In uni1 for example its 30% but no deut to DF so i doubt anyone is scrapping like that since they lose ton of deut :D.
Now in .org since pulling is prohibited, lower ranked can not profit either.
Where did you get this from? There is nothing about this in rules. There are certain rules in place of new universes and strong players but there is nowhere stated i, as 1,000,000,000 points player can't give 500,000,000,000 resources to someone weaker then me. And by saying this i also think that the amount of res i give to weaker one can not exceed his points + my res > my points which is also not written but im sure it works like that.
Also im pretty sure everyone scraps like that in universes with higher DF % and deut into DF. 50% DF + 25-30% WF, makes no sense to scrap thru scrap merchant. In uni1 for example its 30% but no deut to DF so i doubt anyone is scrapping like that since they lose ton of deut :D.
Very true Mr. zajeb but I have to correct you on something;
WF isn’t always 30%. Because if it was then an 80% DF universe meant you could get pushed via getting killed for 80 and getting back 30, accounting for 110% of the original value.
Ofcourse lifeforms upgrade of nano repair robots and spacedock levels can modify the WF by a significant margin you can always assume this to be on safe zone:
“1/3 of what doesn’t go into DF comes back as WF.”
So for an 80% DF universe it’s roughly 80 + 1/3*(100-80) = 86,667%.
Oh and yes, universe 1 is scrap merchant if you need it or if you don’t have any interest with getting the resources back then you can always apply to me and I’ll help with both wiping out the unnecessary ships and recycling. No tickets are needed. 
I know, higher DF% universes have less WF%. They made it so you "can't" cross 100% margin.
Oh and yes, universe 1 is scrap merchant if you need it or if you don’t have any interest with getting the resources back then you can always apply to me and I’ll help with both wiping out the unnecessary ships and recycling. No tickets are needed.
Please keep your specialized scrapper crusiers as far away as possible, thank you 
It is not banned if you send back debris (and send ticket about recyclers loan). You cant make profit in this case.
I've been doing this for more than a year, ask your friends to "scrap you" with Deathstars, that way they have no losses and no deut cost so you don't need to ticket.
Just ACS def to someone with half of your fleet and attack with another half, they should wipe eachother.
Or send a bit of strong ships for def and attack them in multiple waves.
id imagine you are planning this
Fleet Scrapper wants their ally to attack their Fleet with Rips, (no loss to the ally if done right and Deut Costs are Negligable)
The Player then Collects the DF, Rebuilds Via Wreck Feild, Rinse and repeat.
I cant see this breaking any Rules since the only Profit is that Built into the System, as in its part of the mechanics.
The other Player is Spending probably like 10,000 in Deut Costs Asuming Its Rips Flying Localy, Which come late game would Be a matter of Seconds to generate.
Although If the Attacking Player was to Send Reapers, and Steal the DF, then thats a Whole New Issue
Display Moreid imagine you are planning this
Fleet Scrapper wants their ally to attack their Fleet with Rips, (no loss to the ally if done right and Deut Costs are Negligable)
The Player then Collects the DF, Rebuilds Via Wreck Feild, Rinse and repeat.
I cant see this breaking any Rules since the only Profit is that Built into the System, as in its part of the mechanics.
The other Player is Spending probably like 10,000 in Deut Costs Asuming Its Rips Flying Localy, Which come late game would Be a matter of Seconds to generate.
Although If the Attacking Player was to Send Reapers, and Steal the DF, then thats a Whole New Issue
This is exactly what i'm looking for...
