I would put Uni1, Vega and Thuban as target servers. All other exodus servers
And change eco for Uni1 and Vega to 10x, Thuban is already 10x, but also change speeds on target servers so Uni1 stays 1x, Vega change at 3x speed and Thuban already is 5x. So everybody now can decide where wants play.
Cheers... 
I would put Uni1, Vega and Thuban as target servers. All other exodus servers
And change eco for Uni1 and Vega to 10x, Thuban is already 10x, but also change speeds on target servers so Uni1 stays 1x, Vega change at 3x speed and Thuban already is 5x. So everybody now can decide where wants play.
Cheers...
Seems like a solid suggestion but would not you please consider fixing the problematic, outdated and stupid u1 DF percentage and doot into DF options?
Also 3 big and old universe's as targets are problem as players are stuck there forever.
Either make only u1 and Thuban as targets? Save Vega and Lacerta as well or make 3 target universe's and everything else exodus. Like it was with Perseus and Quadrantids, make 3 servers, x1-x2-x4 fleetspeeds and x8 to x10 economy with fixed and balanced DF percentage between all targets as every community kinda has this.
System will give 13-15 relocations to everyone else that they can not keep their original planets so there is that where you can move to position 8, 15 or whatever your plan is to.
This way players in u1, Vega or Thuban will be able to move out since none of GF merges brought u1 anything good so far?
Why does Volans always get excluded?
It's time to open up that universe, to finish what was started. It's dead now - no one comes, no one plays. Free us from this confinement! Let us compete against the major accounts from other universes, to fight our battles and prove our worth. Stop leaving our accounts in permanent vacation mode.4
They didn't even consider us. Volans has become pure oblivion.
Why does Volans always get excluded?
It's time to open up that universe, to finish what was started. It's dead now - no one comes, no one plays. Free us from this confinement! Let us compete against the major accounts from other universes, to fight our battles and prove our worth. Stop leaving our accounts in permanent vacation mode.4
They didn't even consider us. Volans has become pure oblivion.
All Volans need is a box of matches in comms room 
Here i am enjoying a peacefull retirement at YIN to get my door knocked by some daylight robbers
YIN has probably the coolest settings for the casual and chilled gamer but for some reason is being forced to move to some shitshow settings universes
Surely has nothing to do with the fact YIN settings probably dont bring much money into someone's pockets x)
Maybe i go back to a 5x war speed uni, such a lovely and healthy time of my life ... SIKEEEEEEEE
GF.
As always when I don't think you can F it up anymore you always raise the bar of my expectations towards you.
At least your consistent. Consistently S***, but still consistent.
Why does Volans always get excluded?
It's time to open up that universe, to finish what was started. It's dead now - no one comes, no one plays. Free us from this confinement! Let us compete against the major accounts from other universes, to fight our battles and prove our worth. Stop leaving our accounts in permanent vacation mode.4
They didn't even consider us. Volans has become pure oblivion.
Have you somehow forgotten that Volans is a chaos universe and pushing & multi is allowed there, and nobody wants your cheater accounts in their universes? Volans has always been a one-way road, and everybody who started there knew this very well and what they signed up for. You can prove "your worth" in your own little world all you want, in an isolated universe where everybody else can ignore you.
Well we always try to be consistent to not disappoint you, at least you get used too... 
Now, seriously, we had several options, included with new universes that, everyone, including the team loves to have and offer to you, but unfortunately it wasn't possible.
Don't ask why, you already now the answer.
Volans, as a chaos universe cannot be considered for any plan, it's like the limbo.
I would love to bring better news that could please to you all, but no, we don't have.
You can hammer your keyboards, we always listen your words and for the next time, who knows we can bring something better.
x10 for universe 1, DF to 50%
If I want to keep my economy at 10x, I have no choice but to play at 5x fleet speed, which I really don’t enjoy and don't want to play!!
why are people in ogame always trying to make all universes jack of all trades?
Bring a risk <=> reward calculation back into this
I put it into a spoiler since I know that nobody will be in favour of such ideas, cause everyone wants same eco nowadays and super generic universes with no real trade offs.
what was needed is to merge Vega with Lacerta to make more active both unis, otherwise i don't see how this is helpful at all for any of them.
ye excactly that's part of the reason I asked for some reasoning and anticipated user flows.
It doesn't seem very logical to keep both these universes, since the settings, the size, everything seems closer than all others in these two groups
In general I wonder about the expected outcome
Lets go through player numbers
| Universe | Number of active Players | Fleet Speed |
| 1 | 435 | 1 |
| Vega | 201 | 2 |
| Lacerta | 176 | 2 |
| Thuban | 162 | 5 |
| Fafnir | 155 | 3 |
| Wurren | 114 | 1 |
| Xuange | 35 | 5 |
| Yin | 129 | 1 |
| Zodiac | 55 | 3 |
| Aries | 97 | 2 |
| Bharani | 94 | 1 |
| Undae | 56 | 1 |
| Ceres | 58 | 4 |
| Delphinus | 93 | 2 |
| Eris | 103 | 6 |
So overall you got 1963 active players left, 22% of those are in u1 already, 10+8% are in Llacerta + Vega
If you consider all x2 and x3 speeds it becomes wild
Vega and Lacerta take nearly 50% of the players combined in this group
Another 20% is on Fafnir
so 70% of the players are staying in their already dead universe
How shall this speed become more active by just 30% of the players?
It becomes even worse if we just look at x2
Vega and Lacerta have 67% of the players in this group
Yet we don't split those two? Why? And why despite them having similiar sized accounts?
and I want to point out one thing about Thuban here
If we look at speeds over x3 (so x4+)
I don't know a solution forthat, but considering 63% of all players in these speeds are in the same universe already, the number combined being less than 13% of all merging players, something seems rather off.
I understand that x4 is more challenging. But removing the only upside thuban has (x10) will kill this group further and further. As said, risk and reward have to hold some balance.
Considering that Thuban has 6/20 of the Top 20 accounts (which is 30%), while only u1 with about 3x the player count reaches the same heights, it should be a focus on the long term to revive this group and I am not sure if providing another x10 universe in this merge is the right way of reviving. For perspective: Vega, Lacerte and Yin have less combined top 20 accounts, these the biggest fishes in our tank and leaving the unconsidered feels kinda wrong, no? To make it even more clear I looked at all top 30 ogame.en accounts:
Considering that 36% of the biggest players are in this universe it feels wrong to ingore these people so much and even cripple their uniqueness of x10 by introducing the same in fafnir with a better overall jack of trades universe again (more friendly speed for better expedition flight times, less war speed for less MD chances, better DF for better CR wins, if you want to look from a passive players perspective: More galaxies to hide better).
Somehow this feels overlooked and I really would love to know how the player flow is planned in that regard.
And by the way, merging lacerta and vega would bring this number on a similiar level as thuban and universe 1, which is why I called similiar size and not only settings
There is no point in this merge, whatever Group 1 choose it's a death sentence or not worth playing as team.
Please give it another tought, so players dont have survive with 200x bigger accounts on really old unis...
we always listen your words
It goes in one ear and out the other.
I would love to bring better news that could please to you all, but no, we don't have.
You can hammer your keyboards, we always listen your words and for the next time, who knows we can bring something better.
the collective "gameforge" say this bullshit everytime. We listen, next time its better. Its never better because you never listen. you do what makes sense from a service delivery perspective not from a player base perspective and then expect DM to continually be bought and used.
feels like the Master Yoda & Blankie situation all over again, yet its us who suffer the consequences of it with inert support and game designers who has as much empathy as an 
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Display MoreWell we always try to be consistent to not disappoint you, at least you get used too...
Now, seriously, we had several options, included with new universes that, everyone, including the team loves to have and offer to you, but unfortunately it wasn't possible.
Don't ask why, you already now the answer.
Volans, as a chaos universe cannot be considered for any plan, it's like the limbo.
I would love to bring better news that could please to you all, but no, we don't have.
You can hammer your keyboards, we always listen your words and for the next time, who knows we can bring something better.
Case closed, close the thread 
Display MoreWell we always try to be consistent to not disappoint you, at least you get used too...
Now, seriously, we had several options, included with new universes that, everyone, including the team loves to have and offer to you, but unfortunately it wasn't possible.
Don't ask why, you already now the answer.
Volans, as a chaos universe cannot be considered for any plan, it's like the limbo.
I would love to bring better news that could please to you all, but no, we don't have.
You can hammer your keyboards, we always listen your words and for the next time, who knows we can bring something better.
Why did you let our lovely moderator Neotinea waste 15 seconds of her life and create a thread then? What is merge discussion for if we are not able to teach you what this community wants and what is best unlike you guys rolling the dices and calling stuff happen promising 'next time will be better'.
Just close the thread, remove all of the posts that do not share your opinion and say it's decided.
Thanks in advance, have a nice day dear yohdh.
You can hammer your keyboards, we always listen your words and for the next time, who knows we can bring something better.
then whats the point of opening this thread if its all moot point anyway
this precisely is what happens where powers at be are no longer players of those affected universes, our interest is not being represented here by our representatives, i suggest you guys hand over the DM vouchers you getting for keeping the mob in check instead actually representing the community.
20 responses here all 20 negative and against the changes and what off it you are here to represent us then go do your job or find someone else who is willing to do what it takes for good of the community
methinks our team has failed us here, and if u have no choice and no voice then is time to quit
hope yall sleep good at night snuggled next to your DM vouchers you dont even use coz that requires a account in any uni.
Players are going on a rant here, save the hassle and let us know if anything is to be amended as per messages here? or is it just a keyboard combat section?dffgfdgfdgdfgdfgdfgdsfgfdgfdg
Yes...you can sometimes sway them. Dorado.org (1x/1x/1x) survived two mergers between 2018 and 2023 by mobilizing the community in the universe to voice their concerns on the forums and through the ticket system...Dorado was removed from the exodus list twice. Unfortunately, it didn't survive the 2023 merge. Of course, Prongs wasn't the COMA in the first two mergers...and he hates this community, so it would probably be futile to try unless you can circumnavigate him as the roadblock and get the message directly to the decision makers in Game Forge.
I think Lacerta and Vega are gonna wind up being the most popular choices with Vega getting the majority.
Uni 1 is densely populated (# of planets versus 4.400 +/- accounts)...you will struggle a bit to get slot 8s and strategically locked systems here if you are coming with a team. Also, don't automatically dismiss the speeds as slow because the settings are 1x...most of the top players' speeds are comparable to 2x now with life forms and very high drives. OP'd super cruisers will get you if you're not careful...and with HDs @28s MDs are <5.5 hours at 1 system away which isn't as bad compared to "speed" unis, but it's still not what some people expect to see in a 1x uni. Uni 1 can also be pretty toxic...forums, in game, etc. Participation on the forums for the community as a whole has pretty much died off on uni 1 because it's gotten so toxic, coupled with bias modding there. As for settings changes in uni 1, good luck...each time it gets a bit closer, but I think sometimes the toxicity gets in the way of making positive changes there as players vote with emotions rather than what's actually in their best interest.
Vega has 3200 +/- accounts. They don't seem to have the same planet density issues that plague Uni 1, I have an account there, and it was pretty easy to find slot 8s in a decent spread across the galaxies. Just don't agree to an ACS-D with certain players :).
Thuban...I doubt many people will go to Thuban if they look at the HoF section, points, rankings, toxicity, etc., unless they're in a competitive situation with a good team that also goes with them, who are active.
Lacerta is non-ACS and a relatively safe choice if you are willing to play non-ACS. You just gotta stay out of Ella's recyclers :).
Uni 1 and Thuban also have some pretty big spenders (myself included)...if you complain about wallets in your current uni, your heads will explode in uni 1 and Thuban so just keep that in mind when making a decision. You can survive and thrive amongst us whales by playing smart...but if the concept of spending grinds you, it will be a glaring issue for you then in uni 1 or Thuban and do you really want to spend time complaining about something that will never be changed now?
There are no good choices in merges, ever...if you're not happy with the choices, you can try to rally your uni to voice their discontent (keeping mind to try to keep the conversations positive and "clean" as the mods suddenly start working overtime with that edit button during these discussions).
I will never play in a new uni again, since they kill them off in less than a year now which used to be forbidden. Delphinus won't even be a year old for this merger. I decided to try a seasonal uni but I'll never do that again either since you either have to let the account rot in your lobby or delete it to keep the achievements you earn there (if you gift your account from the seasonal uni to someone...you lose those achievements).
I would highly advise you to do thorough research on the choices you are presented with. With the GY rules being the way they are now, you're gonna be stuck in them for a long time as uni 1, Vega, and Thuban are mostly likely not going anywhere. Each of the unis have various discord channels you can join to get a feel for them...there is uni1O&T and Donato' Nam in uni 1 for example. Both of those have players from every alliance and affiliation there who would be happy to share their thoughts.
Display MoreWell we always try to be consistent to not disappoint you, at least you get used too...
Now, seriously, we had several options, included with new universes that, everyone, including the team loves to have and offer to you, but unfortunately it wasn't possible.
Don't ask why, you already now the answer.
Volans, as a chaos universe cannot be considered for any plan, it's like the limbo.
I would love to bring better news that could please to you all, but no, we don't have.
You can hammer your keyboards, we always listen your words and for the next time, who knows we can bring something better.
We need a new GA maybe? 
Display MoreWell we always try to be consistent to not disappoint you, at least you get used too...
Now, seriously, we had several options, included with new universes that, everyone, including the team loves to have and offer to you, but unfortunately it wasn't possible.
Don't ask why, you already now the answer.
Volans, as a chaos universe cannot be considered for any plan, it's like the limbo.
I would love to bring better news that could please to you all, but no, we don't have.
You can hammer your keyboards, we always listen your words and for the next time, who knows we can bring something better.
Don't be discouraged by this post people...if you can get your uni to rally together, it is possible.
You just gotta get beyond Yohdh and Prongs. Good luck. I do sympathize with players who feel like they have no good choices here...been there, done that and put up a fight numerous times...win some, lose some.
GameForge are building models to best make the most amount of profit and will dissapoint people on the way. The profit and tabels just need to look good.
Maybe the merge is a signal to go Vmode and start on the fitness, good health, family and so much more we have been thinking about!
The merge looks like a joke....
Display MoreDisplay MoreWell we always try to be consistent to not disappoint you, at least you get used too...
Now, seriously, we had several options, included with new universes that, everyone, including the team loves to have and offer to you, but unfortunately it wasn't possible.
Don't ask why, you already now the answer.
Volans, as a chaos universe cannot be considered for any plan, it's like the limbo.
I would love to bring better news that could please to you all, but no, we don't have.
You can hammer your keyboards, we always listen your words and for the next time, who knows we can bring something better.
Don't be discouraged by this post people...if you can get your uni to rally together, it is possible.
You just gotta get beyond Yohdh and Prongs. Good luck. I do sympathize with players who feel like they have no good choices here...been there, done that and put up a fight numerous times...win some, lose some.
Community cannot prioritize one uni above the other, but it feels all target unis will be as dead as they were before the announcement.
I'm not saying nothing is happening as for an example in uni1 - recent events would dip this statement, but the rest of the unis? Same names allover, same online numbers, nothing competitive nor exciting.
