Merge.

    Ask yourself this. Based on the unis selected as target unis and their specs, where would you go.? Uni1 has the worst specs of all unis, doubt many will want to come to that. Uni1 is for basically semi/non active people who can't be bothered with speed of other unis but still want to play from time to time.

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    Ask yourself this. Based on the unis selected as target unis and their specs, where would you go.? Uni1 has the worst specs of all unis, doubt many will want to come to that. Uni1 is for basically semi/non active people who can't be bothered with speed of other unis but still want to play from time to time.

    I don't really agree with part of your message. I am online entire day in universe 1 but i still can't be bothered to play speed universe. How do i explain this properly. Basically 1x speed is playing a browser game, while 3x+ speed is basically playing a real game, like call of duty, csgo, dota, LoL. What im saying is you need to be there and actually play from the time your FS lands untill you FS again. I personally would not play the game if i had same account in thuban for example. It is just too bothersome and not worth my time. Universe 1 whales are playing x2 universe already anyway. There are many people who prefer to put some expos/inactive attacks and go out for 15-20min to do some work or read news or what not, and that is why people join universe 1, becuase it allows that type of behaviour and ogame really feels like a hobby instead of a job. So stating someone is not active because they don't play from FS > FS is wrong.


    Also from what i saw universe 1 has the most active players. So ask yourself this, how is that posible if everyone is hating on specs? The answer is simple, its because of speed setting and nothing else. In this merge people can choose to play 1-2-3-5x speeds (i think) so they have plenty of options. Honestly everyone is being mad because their feelings or wallet are getting hurt more so then any logical reason.


    There are two things i will agree with you;

    1. universe 1 DF is definitely not incentinvising for fleeters

    2. universe 1 deut consumption is also a big no-no for fleeters


    And now i will say this again, something i will claim, and will be claiming untill i quit ogame and stop thinking about it;

    1. DF 30% in itself is not a problem however they need to enable deut to DF. I would also support if it goes to 40% but not higher. Why? Because space dock now provides incentive to rebuild instead of perma VM once you get crashed. I think with 35% DF spacedock would still provide you with 1/3 of the fleet which is great to keep the game constantly in action. I understand how many people want 50-70% DF but most of the people who said that are literally big spenders so it is understandable they don't care about having a balanced game more then the increase in profit with their bought fleets.

    2. Fully supporting -50% deut for flying - to be fair i think GF needs to cut base deut consumption values by 30% atleast.


    And for flavor :fatgreengrin:

    3. Remove option to build defense on moon

    4. Cap DS to 5hours shortest flight possible

    5. 10% DiDF


    Overall i think more casuals will join who prefer "retirement" playstyle more so then competitive one. Also arguments about difference in points is just comical (not said by anyone in this topic). With all the whales in every server its just a ridicolous argument :kpinch:


    Also 8x to 10x talks...pure nonsense. You can get more stuff built but you will, again, in short period, reach a cap where that increase won't matter at all... so what then? You gonna ask for 12x because you've hit a wall in 10x?

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    There's very little reason to come here when there's 10x eco options available

    We really need something like 10x eco/50%DF to make this uni more attractive to other players

    The main reason to come here is the same reason i came here, this uni wont die as much like the others. End game too so to speak.
    Yes we have whales. But look at our point spread across the board comparing to the others? You can be a small fish here and grow nicely... Other uni's as soon as you got some fleet, your a target because the big guys have all teamed up and have no one else to go for.

    But i do agree we need x10 eco Or atleast a 40% debri. Miners will cry if we pushed for 50% Tho they'd benifit from it too if it attracts more players for them to trade with.



    Also newer uni's like the x2 war speed, but if they kept there account long enough and progressed like the other older accounts, the fleet speed is essentially somewhere between that and 1&2.


    Every merge the weak uni's get dumped into big ones full of whales. Players will never get to be big or class themselves as a whale if they keep starting fresh.

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    Ask yourself this. Based on the unis selected as target unis and their specs, where would you go.? Uni1 has the worst specs of all unis, doubt many will want to come to that. Uni1 is for basically semi/non active people who can't be bothered with speed of other unis but still want to play from time to time.

    I came here because this uni always seems active. Every new uni starts your forced to merge and bunged in with aloud of whales Which in turn dies within a year, so the specs of a uni kinda go out the window. You learn to adapt.

    what are the changes for uni 1 to ever get a higher (4* or better) peaceful fleet?


    Sadly my server Wurren is an exodus, but we are trying to rally everyone to open a ticket to make it a target instead....


    But since we never know with GF, i still gotta find out what would be a good thirth option.


    I am not a fan of 2* warspeed, and higher at all.... so for me it seems like uni 1 is the only spot to go. But i do 100-150 expos a day with the current 4*peaceful speed and i have invested my entire Wurren account into discoverer class for expo gains. How many will i be able to do in uni 1 with only 1*, and is it actually worth my time?

    ScolarVisari

    1.2bil account here

    25min SC in system

    36min LC in system


    You will do less obviusly. If you also farm inactives then you'll be happier though since wurren is utterly dead.


    edit: Personally i don't care about maxing it out anymore so i just use LC, on the other hand you've got alot more inactives and white players from 20-150mil who often dont pull res to farm :D

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    Wurren aint dead. i have send our entire top 100 and 100-200 a message from someone who wanted us to create a ticket to save our server. many responded, be it friend or foe. we all love our server and dont want it gone.

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    Wurren aint dead.

    Yes it is. Unless you consider 50 active players not dead. Just because someone responds to you doesn't mean they are playing. I have account in wurren and i got spied once a week, if that isn't dead i don't know what dead universe then means. I know a friend whos fleet sits for 2-3-4 hours on moons without him looking at it and he doesn't even get probed. Responses you got are all the people who were waiting for merge, and now they got out of VM to whine when in fact they couldn't bother to play their own server long enough to keep it alive.

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    You write like a true fleeter. not everone plays the same style.

    I am not a fleeter :wink3:. I am expo/miner but i do have 10% of my account in fleet so if i have time i will look for something to hit. I am just trying to understand what you are trying to say but your messages are not making any sense.


    Basically you claim wurren is not dead just because no attacking each other which would imply there is 50 people doing just expos. That means for everyone on that server it doesn't matter which universe you go to because you are all playing singleplayer game to begin with. And before you start to claim people are doing hits, no, they are not, just follow mmorpg site > military destroyed each day and you will see no one is making any hits. If hits do happen its maybe once or twice a month.


    What im saying is, all those who only focus on expos and do mines should not be unhappy with any changes because in reality it doesn't affect them 1 single bit. You just need to build 50k plasmas on a planet and do expos from there then pull twice a day and you can continue playing your singleplayer game because fleeters won't go for no profit targets. So unless you leave entire fleet sitting, or 1bil res behind those 50k plasmas you will be safe even from players with 5bil points. The easiest adjustments have miners, followed by people who just do expos and the last one are fleeters.

    Dont let the fleet speed put you off, start doing them with sc first. Then adjust your route to what suits you. Many here do expo's.

    One thing youd need to adjust to is moving res daily. As it will take longer. But that is something that can be adjusted also.

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    agree with the singleplayer part but you can't say moving from a uni where peacefull fleet is 4x or 8x to a 1x does not affect players that are forced to move because it makes a very big big diff

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    You write like a true fleeter. not everone plays the same style.


    also, just because fleets aint getting crashed, does not mean there aint any active fleeters.

    you can disagree if you like but getting probed once a week is the definition of dead. Here you’d be hard pressed to go more than a couple hours without being probed.

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    agree with the singleplayer part but you can't say moving from a uni where peacefull fleet is 4x or 8x to a 1x does not affect players that are forced to move because it makes a very big big diff

    You are correct, it does make a difference, but it is peaceful fleet which is again "singleplayer setting". Peaceful fleet is the easiest to adjust to and the least "punishable" adjustment. What it does is make you transport resources a bit differently. I know in wurren i get online and i just put transport from g5 to g1 and it lasts 1h xD. In uni1 thats gona take a while :))...i don't know if you guys are interested to find about speeds but since you are asking questions i will give you info from my account in case you are trying to decide where to move. It might help you. If you have any other questions im sure there will be people answering them :)


    If there are any players checking this thread to try and find some information about speeds i will post my speeds here.

    1.2bil discoverer account, i have plasma drives though. Drive techs 20-19-16


    25min SC in system

    36min LC in system


    Large cargo travel time;

    g4 > g5 = 2:37h

    g4 > g6 = 3:42h

    g4 > g7 = 4:32h

    g4 > g8/g9 = 5:15h


    I am not a fleeter but as i said i have plasma drives, my crusier/bcr speed buff is at 110%

    cruiser

    in system 20min

    1 system away 33 min

    10 systems away 38 min

    30 systems away 46 min

    50 systems aways 54min


    battlecrusier you can add +4min on times above (10% would be more precise)


    Maybe The King of Kings can post for his 12bil account, and maybe Spaceballs (if you are here lurking somewhere :tongue3:) would share his speeds for 400mil fleeter account so people who visit this thread can have a look at what to expect?