Uni 1 Settings Change ( 1 last time)

    Not sure why we got the ingame message...

    Like most people here are saying, unless we get 10x eco the vote will just fail anyway, so I don't see the point in running it at all.

    I think the allure of the uni1 is to keep the old ogame vibes around.

    I support a increase in eco to x10 (or even more, reasons below).

    I think though all the rest should remain nostalgic. 100% deut consuption, 30% DF, yatta yatta yatta. The only one I would say maybe is the deut in debris field, as I'm one believer that since day one in ogame it should been like that. But friendly speeds, inactive systems, etc I would keep completly as is.

    Tou counter that "nostalgia" annoyances, we could have it with even more eco speed to make it a truly special universe in all communities.


    Miner would won eco, fleeter deut in debries to balance out. Expedition, go to faster servers, you have the option, keep 1.org as a special nostalgia place.

    My 5 cents in the matter.

    thing is and its always been that everyone is selfish as moloh says


    there are 3 archetypes of play designed by classes and this uni never caters to 2 of them here


    miners want highest eco settings and 1x friendly and 0 df


    fleeters want high df


    disco's well get told to go somewhere else if they want a high friendly speed coz it messes up fleet save speeds for everyone and its just no go to change any speeds coz u1 its 1x speed everyone chooses and its oh so legacy setting blablabla its not , since eco went up u1 has no legacy status , u1.de does


    nothing is going to change as mods refuse to do a joint setting vote, we have to vote separate on each setting and we will vote 10eco in and no df or friendly changes lol



    me and my 72 virgin friends will vote against eco without df, dont care about friendly anymore but how about for once everyone looks at other players ( discos ) and not just oww my poor fs time i have to change my deploy from 40% to 30% lmao please somehow ppl manage to fs in 8x friendly unis and dont get crashed but mighty u1.org cant do it

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    I think it's fair enough to give miner and fleeters something and agree it should be a join vote to ensure it passes benefits for both and not for only one style.
    My problem with the discos, is that in every universe let's be practical it's the meta unless you are a whale. I actually think it's good to keep one where it is contained.

    I know i aint voting for eco increase unless i see deut into DF on a positive % in a vote. I don't even mind it won't be 50% DF but i do mind there is no deut into DF. I'll go as far as to tell my VM friends to come out and vote against it aswell :fatgreengrin:


    edit; And can we really not have multi settings vote? I mean, ofcourse we can im just curious is it allowed or has it been done before :buckteeth:

    uni 1 nostalgia is in name only...might as well vote to change that. This is not a legacy server; that ship has long since sailed.

    Just be careful what you wish for, you (and everyone else) might just get it.

    I fail to see how this is a "fair" change....


    Miners:

    - Eco x10 - Pro

    - Debris Field 50% - Con

    - Deuterium into DF - Con

    - 0.7 Deut Consumption - Kinda Pro


    Fleeters:

    - Eco x10 - Pro

    - Debris Field 50% - Pro

    - Deuterium into DF - Pro

    - 0.7 Deut Consumption - Pro


    Sure miners get a bump, but fleeters also get the same bump, or do fleeters not build mines?

    Not only that, but fleeters also target miners, which means bigger rewards for them too.. No?


    I just dont get why eco increases ONLY appeases miners... Everyone uses Eco in every universe


    Please elaborate, i am genuinely confused?

    Quote from indyNinja

    I fail to see how this is a "fair" change....


    Miners:

    - Deuterium into DF - Con

    that holds true if cargo cost deut


    and to answer your question it doesnt matter at this point at all which is why this ingame message is a joke


    trade rates 321 and packets everywhere anyhow , the only thing that matters is eco so more pack for your buck ha!


    if u think that df or deut to df will change who gets hit and for how much than you wasnt paying attention


    ppl will get hit/bashed in 0% df uni and 200% deut cost coz it what tickle their pickle theres no setting to change that and im fine with it

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    If your a miner, please how is a higher df or deut into debri affect you?..

    If your hoarding res that appeals to a fleeter to attack you, then thats on you. Not because the debri field is higher.

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    It doesnt affect me, thats the point... Eco is the only reason for me to want this right? Yet, all 4 things boost fleeters... So like most of the fleeters have said, why vote yes for his when I only get 1 out of 4 boosts?


    I keep seeing this mentality of, if the eco goes up, then the fleeters must get something... But the eco also helps fleeters. Do you get what im saying?

    Quote from indyNinja

    I keep seeing this mentality of, if the eco goes up, then the fleeters must get something... But the eco also helps fleeters. Do you get what im saying?

    "if eco goes up it helps fleeters too", no it doesn't help them nearly as much as it helps the miners because the scaling of growth goes into miners favor the higher the eco setting goes. You could compare 1bil miner account to 3bil true fleeter account and 1bil miner will outperform 3bil fleeter in growth %. Difference in point is vast but the growth % of miner is higher then growth of a fleeter. And let's not compare discominers to fleeters because that is even more absurd even in our 1x speed.


    Fleeting in uni1 is just a hobby people do for fun nowadays since they know they ain't gonna grow their accounts as fast as disco miners or miners of same points. So is this balanced to you? You are basically saying effortless playstyle should benefit even more then proactive playstyle in which you lose a sh*t ton of deut alot of times since players online you. Miners have absolutely nothing to risk by playing the game and they grow faster then someone trying to proactively play.


    Most fleeters understand this and since they also wanna grow they didn't build massive fleets that need to farm in order to FS, most fleeters do have decent mines but that exactly proves how unbalanced the universe settings are in favor of miners.


    So the least thing that should have been done without even voting is turning deut into DF, this should be the standard!


    edit; Also i am still fully supporting my opinion that DF should stay 30% and just enable deut into DF because DF% is directly correlated to spacedock %. So i think it would be better to keep lower DF and let people recover more of their fleet after they have been hit. I think this would keep the players stay longer, especially noob players. Deut into DF could potentionally bring less "planet" bashing since it would make fleeting a bit more profitable so more people might actually start to build smaller fleets which is of more interest to most fleeters then bashing the planets is. We'll never know untill we get deut into DF i guess :sleep:

    Edited once, last by zajeb ().

    pretty much what zajeb said holds true for anyone looking beyond tip of their own nose uh muh what do miners get


    what do miners do ? collect build ress save


    both disco and fleeters are active playstyles that benefit from active play


    both of those at the moment are *legacy* setting 30% and 1x


    miners got 1% - 8% only affecting passive play, unless u want to tell fleeters/discos not to fleet or disco then u right everyone got same bonus , miners benefited 100% of playstyle fleeters discos 50% lol


    the df argument is such a pathetic thing to have uh huh we become targets earlier, we gona get our cargo hunted blabla


    think for a second


    for all intensive purposes the end game begins with working/unlocking towards t18 lifeform bonus , for disco that begins at sub 500m points for other classes later, it is mostly advised to begin unlocking t18 around astro 25 roi ( collector excluded coz t18 sucks for it so call it 1b + )



    at this point in order to get 14th colo you are already a target saving 3weeks ress for it regardless of the df



    you gotta ress manage anyhow, the only thing df increase does is reduces the wf ( wf wasnt even in the game before and ppl die cry and quit) now u gettting wf after u fail to ogame but thats still not good enough



    ppl will be targets once they hit 100m + points due to daily production ( especially in 10x eco ) and cost of next upgrade anyhow df % is irrelevant to miners or disco guys



    if miners wants some more benefits then just eco how about get off your arse and do some fleeting or expos then u can have an opinion about those stats of the uni lol

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    You are very aggressive...


    So as a miner, we don't get a say? This is the mentality I was talking about, you just said that people must look further than their own noses, yet your telling me that my opinion doesn't matter because I don't play the way you do.


    To respond to you Zajeb, i understand what your saying, but proactive disco running is way more effective than just mining (Maybe not at the top end of Uni 1). I grew an account to 1.5b points in 1 year with no pay 2 win DM spamming, except for comm staff. Compared to a pure miner who only grew 550m points in that year AND was already on 60m points when I merged from graveyard. Bumping the eco up would help disco/expo runners too. Anyhow, the problem is that everyone throws these general quotes around, and saying "I wont vote for eco x10 if I cant get 50% DFs" when eco x10 STILL gives a fleeter a bump, not just miners/discos.


    I get that fleeters want to hunt fleets, but you cant say that miners don't risk anything. (BTW I am mainly an expo runner, I dont enjoy fleeting and I run pure mining on other unis that arnt my main focus). But at the end of the day, I am trying to figure out how people can say this is fair, when it is definitely not fair. It can never be fair, sadly. PLUS I still dont think we can ever go to x10 eco. I thought they squashed that?

    Quote from indyNinja

    You are very aggressive...

    So as a miner, we don't get a say? This is the mentality I was talking about, you just said that people must look further than their own noses, yet your telling me that my opinion doesn't matter because I don't play the way you do.

    that is 100% correct


    your opinion about df increase doesnt matter as you twists facts to suit your theories and frankly mine doesnt either as im a miner


    my point still stands df increase does not affect miners therefore they should not base their vote on that



    Quote from threeflipskat3r

    Please no peaceful fleet speed changes

    sorry bro that is also selfish thinking? u dont care about discos ? right screw them go thuban if they want to expo right?



    what does friendly increase do that is so bad for you that you unable to evolve after 20years please elaborate

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