Posts by vormov

Well you can't fault us for trying lol. This was quite an exciting 24-hours. Pariah knew the risks when he decided to defend Conversion. We answered the call to action to defend an alliance mate. I mistimed the MD to pop conversions moon, otherwise we might have had a shot at Arcane's fleet (perhaps it wouldn't have mattered, I really dont know lol)--but I'm a noob fleeter and missed the window by almost 2 mins.

I have faith that Pariah will have a fast recovery. In fact, to show what kind of a sport this guy is: We had various people willing to Defend him to the point of suicide and when Pariah saw your countermeasures to block our defend--he asks them to recall. He says don't worry about him. Such a nice person, and I'm glad Pariah's on my team.

Typical Muppets crap though, outsourcing the heavy lifting...lol.

Oh, Also...I tried convincing my alliance mates that you guys are untouchable and we should give up trying to compete with you guys...but they just won't listen to me. Tenacious bunch they are...

You also forgot to mention how you guys wanted to extort Deut from our alliance in exchange for protection. I've never heard a more hilarious thing in my life...we both know ya'll would just attack us anyway and use it as leverage to go to war against us. Never mind that radio has been trying to recruit Hatu since day one lol....GL with that.

Go figure, the same fleeters that ruined this universe for all of us scrubs are the same ones complaining to the admins for rules changes. Go figure. I logged into my Vega account just to down-vote the economy settings. It is my opinion that any rules changes to a universe this far in is moot. It won't attract new players, it won't attract old players. Many old school players don't like 6x--it's too fast for most folks. I play in Xanthus now, and the 6x economy there is ridiculous--I can't say that I agree with suddenly turning on 6x economy after like 10 years of it being 2x...that's just ridiculous. All a rules change does at this point is help bolster the top 50 in economy, which (let me take a guess), is the same top 20 in military. While new players might initially benefit from such a change, remember that most players don't even join a uni this old unless they have an account waiting for them.

If you wanna play in a 6x uni, come to Xanthus or one of the newer unis. But I know I'm not the only one that thought that Vega was already dead--ya'll are a bit crazy IMO to keep trying to crack the same impossible nut over and over again. Tbh, I really wish they'd do something about account swapping/buying and multi-accounts, but that's an entirely different conversation.

Nothing but my own two cents, and I have 0 intentions of coming out of vmode.

It is however, unfair of you to assume based on the 3 VA members in this thread that we are all against it. If such things cannot be done in confidence and we aren't truely free to vote against it without there being retaliation against our alliance, then why bother having a poll to begin with--just give the mob what it wants so they'll stop crying.

You fleeters make me sick. So greedy and you push all the players into vmode or to quit the universe, then complain ad infinitum that there's not enough going on in the uni to justify playing it as it is. Maybe if you'd use a bit more strategy and actually let people progress instead of hiding behind ACSs and huge RIP stockpiles and aggressively hunting people less than 10x your points--maybe you'd not need a rules change to maintain your enjoyment of the game.

No CRs have been posted in the War CR thread for more than 7 days now. By rule this war is over.

This kinda shit is why they shouldn't have removed the pillory. Now cheaters can hide and claim they are innocent--then swap to a new account in the uni and start all over.

I honestly don't care if he's botting or not. It isn't hard to devote a lot of time to this game, nor is it hard to hard code a login bot or activity spam. In fact, one of my friends who played ogame with me when I started in uni 28 in 2007 coded an RSS/activity/attack alert bot, went to top 20 in like 2-3 days and got immediately banned lol...he never played again, but I tell this story to show how stupidly easy it is to bend the rules of this game. Botting isn't even the thing I have a problem with--my problem is with idiots like Nik$ getting given accounts to begin with...it's not hard to maintain rank when your account already has 10x or 100x on most accounts in the universe--and when that one gets smashed because you're a noob with a lot of online time, you just swap to another and repeat. So of course people will accuse you of botting--I honestly believe you, I've seen some of the best to ever play the game in some of the universes I've played over the years and trust me when I say that Nik$/Bert is a noob by comparison.

I'm just pissed that you declared war on us, tried to head hunt two of my members (one of which never returned), then immediately got banned for a reason that won't ever be divulged to us. This is why we need the pillory. The war should have ended the moment you got banned IMO, but I don't get to decide when/if people want to war against my alliance.

But to be honest, I've given up on hoping that they improve this game, at this rate I just hope they don't screw it up anymore than they already have since 2010.

I won't give up, neither will my alliance. But you are right, we have very little we can do to even retaliate. If we send IPMs, we are seen as noobs. We can't ACS you, not that we even have the numbers. We can't possibly build enough fleet to take you down 1v1, it's simply statistically impossible. All we can do is prep moons for MD defense, which is almost a waste of resources.

So all we can do is sit here and wait for you to pop our moons and pray we can land a ninja or two to increase your losses. I won't begin bitching about how unfair I think that is, at this point I kinda don't care and want this conflict to be over.

Do what you have to, and I'll do what I have to. But know that I do what I do only for my alliance. I could give two craps less about points, being top 10, or being seen as a "great player." I'm only here for the Void Alliance, and you can't take that away from me no matter how hard you try. Fleet and deut can be rebuild, but you cannot erase us.

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yes you can if you attempt like Bert. If you send one wave to multiple moons, then cry like a bitch cos non popped. At least send 6 waves to one moon!
Bert is a terrible player, full stop. Doesn't know my times at all, sends 34k BS and 34K BC cos my fleet was on moon, with activity on all planets.

So Bert, terrible player? Or script?

My money is on it being more than one person playing on the same account. Yet another top 10 account exploiting the rules to stay ahead. Disgraceful.

You can't just turn on ACS. I've never even heard of that occurring in any universe in .org, so I wouldn't hold my breath. At best, you could look forward to merging into an ACS uni in like 2 years...lol.

VA isn't going anywhere, and nothing you can do, say, or any measure you can take will intimidate me or force me to quit. I'm not even going to bother asking you to just end this war, because we both know you won't--and to be honest we cant even stop you even with ACS. This war is futile and you know it--you don't need to declare war on us to make fleeting profits...doing so is lacking in tact and shows weakness IMO. I am flattered, though, that you think so highly of our band of noobs that you sought to specifically target us with a war--I should feel honored that you are so afraid of a bunch of miners that you want to gang up on us with all your "friends." That means I've assembled a capable, numerous, active, and mostly loyal group. I've already won in this regard--I don't play ogame for fun anymore--those days are long gone for me (In fact, I really kind of hate this game and wish I had never started playing it). I play out of my own personal dedication to the Void Alliance, of which I've been a member for over 10 years. I only play ogame to support my clan--because to be honest, it's situations like this that make me really hate this game--because no matter how much I want to retaliate, no matter how much I want to call you names, or slander you, or attempt to wreck your fleet, or tactically outsmart you, or economically destroy you--I can't and doing so would only hinder my own progress. So why is it even fair for you to declare war on someone who literally can't fight back--only cowards do such things without honor.

I've said all I need to say. I have nothing more to say to you or your alliance. I won't be posting again in this thread, nor in any CR posts, nor will I post any hits, nor will I encourage my members to post hits.

I would even go further as to say this war is invalid:
1. There's no CR Thread.
2. No alliance or single player can declare on a single player. You expressly admitted to specifically headhunting stu and davidt and made it clear your only intention on declaring on us was to smash those people specifically. While not expressly against the rules, I do think this borderlines on breaking that rule.
3. It isn't on the "Current Wars" sticky, nor is any other war declared in this forum.

Wars are dumb IMO and aren't a feature of the base game. It's only enabled by GOs and Forum Mods as a way for fleeters to avoid the bashing rule. In fact, if nobody in my alliance even logged into this forum, we'd be completely unaware there was even a war going on in the first place. Obviously this wasn't the case, but I hope you can see my point here--Wars are basically only referenced one time very loosely in the in-game rules under the bashing section and all it says is to "refer to the forums." That is stupid IMO and demonstrates that Wars were not and still are not a feature of ogame, but of the Ogame Boards...There is not and never has been in-game support for Wars. You shouldn't have to check this forum to activate a feature of the game...

Quote from Nik$

I really want to have acs on this univers.

I've been on the attack a lot of times but I did not blow up the their moons.

they started to enjoy it.

so l declared war.and stu and david leave alliance

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All you managed to do was force two of my members to quit lol. So yeah, thanks for that. The way I see it there's 31 of us and only 8 of you, so you will not win a war of attrition against us, especially considering how many points we have in indestructibles.

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Second of all, it's pretty pathetic when an alliance such as RasGele declares on a mass alliance like Void. Really speaks to their skill, or lack thereof. The top players in the universe need to make their balls look big by bashing a bunch of noobs? Disgraceful.

I think RasGele should disband and go after one another. They never would, though. They don't seek a challenge. They just want to bash people that can't fight back just because they have 2 or 3 untouchable accounts. Non-ACS unis are just pointless.

We aren't as much a "noob" alliance as we are a "We accept everyone" alliance. We don't do that elitist 8-man roster bs. I am studious about kicking inactives though, more so in this uni than in any other uni VA has played in. I've whittled the roster down from 46 to 31, with like 3 more accounts that will get the kick next week.

In our defense, a lot of our more veteran players decided to skip out on this uni. We have several folks stuck in Vega for some reason because they refuse to admit the uni is dead to MUPPETS. Also, many of our players were intimidated by the 6x speed, which is a valid concern (I'm honestly surprised I even play here, the fastest I've ever played was 2x).

So yeah, I mean if you think its fun to bash people go ahead--you and I both know we can't stop you without ACS. We seek no retaliation, nor do we wish to prolong this engagement. So if you really want us to disband, you have quite a few people to bully into quitting before we'd do that--even if you "win" this war, I will still refuse to disband the alliance, so there is 0 point in declaring war other than to avoid a bashing ban against 2 guys that you can't even hit right now for multiple reasons.

Also, I wish someone would do something about all this top 10 account trading. But other than my distaste for people who get given stupidly good accounts for basically no reason with no accountability, we all know that it won't stop--even if several people are basically cheating in a way that we neither can prove nor can get banned for apparently.

We're just a group of miners with like a handful of fleets that can't even put a dent into your stockpile. This is a stupid and pointless war--there's no honor in this fight. You will literally kill the entire universe if you aren't careful--I've seen it happen multiple times in multiple different universes. Once a top 10 starts pushing ridiculous fleet numbers, they always start a war, try to pop moons and inadvertently cause at least a third of the uni to perma-vmode. It's actually in your best interest to let us grow more before you start eliminating every fleet in the universe--but like Onion Knight said above, you have not the skill nor the tact for such things.

I am, however, convinced that someone will nail your fleets eventually. Your bloodthirst only serves to your own destruction. Everyone knows Miners win ogame. Most of the top 100 world-wide are huge turtled out miners.

I have no intentions on disbanding the alliance. Stu and davidt have both left our group on their own free will. We will accept them back if they choose to apply again, but as of this moment they are open game to both our groups. If their first instinct is to flee at the first signs of combat, then those are members we are probably better off without.

There is very little reason to declare war on my entire alliance.

Only lost 23 overall ranks. Not bad for losing 370k in fleet. RRyder is pretty level headed though, I'm sure he'll bounce back.

Spy n fly? Didn't even see the DF, but I didn't see it until like 20 minutes ago.

RIP Vega uni

I love how creative you get with your trash talk, Nikta. You know what I meant, guys, I said the only way you can even think of hitting Hatu is when he literally gives it to you by making a mistake. That doesn't require any skill at all, I could have made that hit. And I willingly and knowingly walked into a ninja against you, Kloshar lol...

I know Hatu IRL, ofc I'm going to defend him. I also know that there's like a 0% chance of him posting in this thread.

This is what we get for being the "nice guy" alliance. Ya'll gang up on us like we're friggen WARP. You guys are doing some good work though, klosh, those monthly stats on your alliance page look really good. But ofc an alliance that has all top 100s would be doing that well.

Its gonna sound like I'm just hating on you guys, sure, but in reality most of my qualms are with how crappy of a game this is to begin with. I only continue to play because of VA.

I think it got removed because he included one of our circs in the post. As in we were spied on. Go figure, people don't have things better to do than spy on the alliance that generally accepts everyone (VA accounts for like ~18% of the active non-vmode players in Vega).

I do think its funny that none of you can nail Hatu unless he makes a mistake lol. The even funnier thing is that his fleet was sitting like all night and nobody saw it until way later. That's why he originally got the DF to begin with, but RL called him out of the house so I guess he forgot to FS it in a rush.

Hits like this don't require any skill, just an opportunist noob and a spy.

Quote from Nikta Meldin

SO PEOPLE!

Any new wars or conflicts going on... Any grudge matches or anything like that?

Whats the gossip. I wanna know who is after who and all the dirt. Lets get this snitz going

Remember when you guys declared war on us for proposing that our alliances merge? Yeah that was fun.

The only thing left to be determined is which alliance is going to outmine muppets in 5 years. This uni is pretty dead tbh...am I the only one wanting to start a new uni just to see new faces probing me? lol

Took a risk and got owned. Not much to it. I saw the activity, I was just hoping to catch you afk at the wheel, so I launched banking on my safety probe working (which it did not). I'm not much of a fleeter anymore, I have negative luck.
Nice work on the timing, 2s is no joke.

Just saying, you guys declined an offer for diplomacy then declared war on us just because you were bored or something.

What the hell are you even talking about Carbon? Get down off the soapbox before I go get the hose.

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Hatu, don't mention my name in vain...
I don't like it.

What are you, a 14th century monarch or something? Going all birdman on us like we aint respekkin his name.

There's entirely too much crazy in this thread.

Lol you guys are hilarious.

Nice job poptarts.

Insert generic comment which does all of the following here:
1. Agrees with all of the criticisms against the update.
2. Fails to mention all of the "benefits" of the update.
3. States both that the update will ruin ogame and that people will quit.
4. States the pointlessness of this discussion.
5. States the ongoing frustration players feel about GF and their general system of development.
6. States not only how this update will overpower DM users, but also how the monetary cost and ingame benefits don't seem to line up in a fair way at all.
7. States how GF has constantly ignored player request for <insert update request here>.

That's pretty much all--I took the liberty of answering for everyone. You can close the thread now.