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Sure, maybe the crystal slot bonus could be slightly higher, but I don't know how it's any different than before really. It's not like people used most of the (upper) slots anyhow. Unless you tried to find a 'big' slot 3, built a bunch of terra, and reloc'd to slot 15.

If you really wanted all the slots to be decent, why not have 2-7 give a combo of metal and crystal bonuses. Or make all the slot bonuses temp-dependent to provide some randomness.

There should be some crappy slots. Just like there are crappy places on Earth where you wouldn't want to live.

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Totally valid frustration, that many has expressed before. You forgot to and also could change final values to MSU (3:2:1), as it is normal exchange value on the Resource Market; then the values get even worse.

To be real, I don't think there are any potential solutions, because as the cost of the mines and the base production of the mines is set up in a way you could never get same overall MSU production on different slots. I even think it's mathematically impossible (if you don't change the core mechanics/equations how production and cost is calculated). Metal mine's production grows the fastest¹, while cost of Crystal mine is the worse. If you include bonuses percentages and how they are distributed right now, then you get a mess we are all familiar with it. I say it's impossible also because how economy speed skews this values even more (i.e. makes Metal mines scale even faster, makes Crystal mines even worse by comparison).² But that's just my feeling based on experience; someone can prove me wrong here.

The closest solution I could think of is to reverse engineer production values. By that I mean, predetermine overall MSU of all three mines, then calculate different production of each mines in different slot, so that the MSU stays the same. But if this were true, of course everybody would want 1st place, since most players needs Crystal, so there should be some small change so it will be balanced. However, all this is a bit too complicated for excel spreadsheets, therefore a bit to complicated for Gameforge.

For a start I would say, there has to be an overhaul of Crystal production bonus. Minimum to +80% at first slot is a good start, and so on down the line. But I don't see how to easy fix 2nd, 3rd and all other slots, other than 8th and 15th. Maybe they should just stay inferior.

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[1] Metal and crystal mines produce the exact same amount of MSU/CSU/DSU (using 3:2:1) at any given level (without slot bonuses). So, metal production doesn't "grow fastest" in real terms. And, if you compare the SU production increase per level at slot 1 vs slot 8, slot 1 crystal mine production increases slightly faster than that of a slot 8 metal mine. The deut production lost is a separate problem.

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[2] If you are talking about production, econ speed is irrelevant -- production increases linearly. The amounts of m/c/d produced relative to each other is invariant wrt speed.

not surprised. i don't know if i've ever seen zemarias do anything that made sense

good.

i got some lc he left on his moon a few days ago, then he decided to bash my sats and crawlers for like 35m loss mad?

and these people try to tell me i'm a push account. or a multi. what a load of

recall deploys make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. being a bot makes it that much better

had fun trying to screw up. at least it paid for the ships i had to build to win, so i don't have to blow them up to build mines thanks botty mcbotface

made me so happy really wanted his 15k bc the other day, but whatev. this is better

nice lucifer should change his moon's name.

overnight in one of those styrofoam box things. just fill it up with snow. i can form my own balls.

good. you'll put that 600m to better use than him anyhow

Will vote no for everything to irritate the maximum number of people.

i build rips for md and didn't even get to use them

i guess that was almost fun? back to v mode i guess. bye

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Forgot to add this : I was always told to make ur fleet look clear on hits box was never give this talking to..

clarity is overrated

he needs to destroy a few planets so he can have planets and ships?

cool maybe i wont get like all of my planets farmed for literally zero profit anymore by songdong

Typo corrected.

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...But to no avail alarm bells balls were ringing. ...

Hey don't insult fell like that u meanie meanie poo poo head he's my wife

Thanks prawnies for losing a bunch of my stuff. Love you

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The new poll is up. 80% is still a requirement.
This poll will be open till 12th of June, but the results will be posted the week after as I won't be available that week.

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I don't think freebies are bad if they're accompanied with some education.

Good stuff. Good luck

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Go figure, the same fleeters that ruined this universe for all of us scrubs are the same ones complaining to the admins for rules changes. Go figure. I logged into my Vega account just to down-vote the economy settings. It is my opinion that any rules changes to a universe this far in is moot. It won't attract new players, it won't attract old players. Many old school players don't like 6x--it's too fast for most folks. I play in Xanthus now, and the 6x economy there is ridiculous--I can't say that I agree with suddenly turning on 6x economy after like 10 years of it being 2x...that's just ridiculous. All a rules change does at this point is help bolster the top 50 in economy, which (let me take a guess), is the same top 20 in military. While new players might initially benefit from such a change, remember that most players don't even join a uni this old unless they have an account waiting for them.

If you wanna play in a 6x uni, come to Xanthus or one of the newer unis. But I know I'm not the only one that thought that Vega was already dead--ya'll are a bit crazy IMO to keep trying to crack the same impossible nut over and over again. Tbh, I really wish they'd do something about account swapping/buying and multi-accounts, but that's an entirely different conversation.

Nothing but my own two cents, and I have 0 intentions of coming out of vmode.

It is however, unfair of you to assume based on the 3 VA members in this thread that we are all against it. If such things cannot be done in confidence and we aren't truely free to vote against it without there being retaliation against our alliance, then why bother having a poll to begin with--just give the mob what it wants so they'll stop crying.

You fleeters make me sick. So greedy and you push all the players into vmode or to quit the universe, then complain ad infinitum that there's not enough going on in the uni to justify playing it as it is. Maybe if you'd use a bit more strategy and actually let people progress instead of hiding behind ACSs and huge RIP stockpiles and aggressively hunting people less than 10x your points--maybe you'd not need a rules change to maintain your enjoyment of the game.

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"So greedy..."
Ok, what's the point of the game then? People should be able to do whatever they want. You can't blame "greedy fleeters" for causing people to quit.

Stupid that I make it 50%

Leaving 100M on a moon is something I would do