Posts by AstralCodex

Not much to say here, only that I got some frantic messages while I was on vacation, saying that 70b fleet had landed 3 ss away from me, and the guy was off (some of defender's deut fleets had been hit before this). So I decided to pop in and say hi. I gotta say, this attacker wreckfield thingy sure is neat.

Speaking of which, you guys are really making a mess of this place while I'm on break...

FR Defender, or GLIRL.

Without further ado... episode number 3 of "Disturbed's hits outshining mine":

Quote from Asto Vidatu

also..please DO note that people posting stuff like this are usually top players

for years

not noobs who started yesterday

in this thread, out of 6 posts you have 4 top2 players/fleeters

dont make us regret putting trust into GF again

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I love how you added yourself as the 6th post, to get that 4th top 2 player/fleeter.

That being said, I'm also very upset that the update was rolled out so fast, and that there will likely be significant balance changes in the next month or two necessitating a class change.

Quote from Di5turbed

Usually happens with reapers in attack

I've also encountered this bug.

1 pathfinder is fine for getting the 2x expo bonus.

Did he forget to clear his planets or something?

Love to see that this saga is still ongoing.

FR Blackmass, no biggie here.

Quote from DSobscure

The upper bound of expedition loot depends on top 1's points. It is a constant that gives huge resources in early and mid stage when you work hard for sending fleet to do expedition. Therefore overpowered to other classes.

And high economic points is not means high resource production under this kind of situation.

Originally, higher economic points means bigger mines and the production increases exponentially that makes mines give large amount of resources. This why many people look Collector seems good at first glance. But the progress to Discover is much faster due to high constant of expedition loot. That breaks the idle game part of OGame. And someone argues mine productions will eventually beat expedition income.

As I said, expedition DF gives fixed ROI, it will give us reasonable income even in late state with tremendous fleet (I don't know the capped DF still exists or not under current setting).

It is also over powered when high DF (OP from early stage to final stage).

After my rough calculation , current 20% DF gives just marginal profit: 1 deut give around 1 metal and 1 crystal or less consider all types of pirate, all types of alien, and black holes according to their published the probability with proper fleet combination. And each time you start an expedition, the expectation of income is around 0.22% building SI cost. If you send 80 times a day, You get 17.6% , it is not much and highly risky. But just slightly increase the percentage, i.e., 30% or even 25% it is much better than original one.

Also, it's also balance consider fleet combination design efforts and work efforts under black hole risk (high income value but also high variance).

And the crystal shortage can be alleviated.

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One important thing to note is that 0.5/0.6 deut consumption universes exist. If the DF% is too low, you might end up in a scenario where DF expos are only viable in certain universes, with already better specs, further privileging the people in those universes.

I tried many configurations but couldn’t find anything profitable in 1x deut consumption - however, it’s very easy to find fleets that are profitable in 0.5x deut consumption.

I’d rather we cap the max DF and increase the DF%. This would:

A) limit the potential for abuse

B) add more of the much needed crystal to new universes without the merchant

C) not make deut consumption % in the uni such a key factor for whether DF expos are viable.

Send a probe to :16.

Make more dessies please

But man, gotta love that 40b profit - color me jealous.

FR Defender, if you choose.

Quote from savage

Also since last update I believe you need pyperclip but not 100% sure.

I am sorry, I tried making some kind of a package for linux but as it is/was foreign grounds I didn't have much luck with it, I managed to build *something* but in the end ubuntu asked me to choose a program to open the "shared library file" with.

Next to that I also had problems running the script but after installing what Astral said the script ran successfully

If you have python3 installed, try the following in bash (sudo probably gonna be required before every command):
pip3 install cx_Freeze
pip3 install tkinter

pip3 install pyperclip

If it fails again let me know, I will try to figure something out since I have ubuntu on dual boot mostly because of this! (btw if cx_freeze fails to install, try a bit older python version. I had problems installing it on 3.8 last week)

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Are those the only dependencies? If so, you can just make a setup.py such that

pip install -e .

will install all of it.

Also yeah, 3.8 breaks a lot of dependencies...

You need to install the tkinter and cx_Freeze packages.

It’s been resolved for me as well.

Quote from dex

ah right, I forgot to mention that I play as a collector, thats why im getting different results. the speed factor is refering to economy speed right?

Yes.

Same here.

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800 or so when the 1st hits 100 million points? but on that calculator it shows that if i send 232 large cargoes and 1 pathfinder the result is the same if i were to send 800.. what am i getting wrong?

You need to be able to hold 800 cargos worth of res capture.

You need 2k+ when 1st is 100m+.

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how much large cargoes do you guys send when the 1st ranked guy reaches 1 million points? from there its always the same results even if the 1st has reached 100 million points?

http://mviv.hebergratuit.net/expe71_prod.htm?i=1

800 or so. It goes up as rank one gets larger.

Quote from savage

I think it's either bugged or no one actually spent time coding this part of expos.

I send 2x7 per solar system and still get decent result, sometimes I get a message that my fleet almost crashed into another expo fleet (instead of first in sector thingy) and afterwards it says it's unexplored sector again.

I think the limit is 15 per 2 hours.

I reach it occasionally in Vega with 8 expo slots

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Hm... It is created based on the fleets I lost, the Alien fleets destroyed didn't contribute to the DF. I thought both fleets destroyed should be counted for the total DF created.

Can you share the CR?

Quote from JasonWazza

The other thing to note with the item event is that if what i'm lead to believe is true, is that the item event detracts from the chance of Res/Ships, and would lower profit as a result.

Specifically, it seems to decrease the chance of ship finds.

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In Virgo I did an Expedition and encountered with Alien, after the battle, all their ships were destroyed, but no DF from alien ships created. Is this normal? I am using Collector class.

DF is still being created - try probing the expo spot to confirm.