Posts by edgar

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That's rich. 'Keep it civil' when you couldn't even reply to me. Go back into vmode. Edgar is the real fool thinking a GO wouldn't suck up to the King of Nothing. Under the thumb. I'm alright Jack.

Try playing the game fairly rather than owning the universe with GOs, multis and bots under the same person(s)

You don't fool me and I've been watching and watching for a while now. Not wanting to say anything because I thought, I'll mind my own business; make expos, raid inactives and build up my mines.

But NO

Let's flatten the highest ranked none affiliated account by moon popping to make sure we get his fleet. So basic.

Yeah I made a dirty fleet save with a lot in the fleet/resources, who doesn't get complacent in a quiet universe.

I actually don't care about the fleet or the resources. What I care about it people playing fairly!

Solitude, Misfits, Storm some other bs side accounts all monopolised by the same person(s). Pathetic.

All hail the King of Nothing!

Warned for Insult

- Madoka

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Well mixed feelings here... was not expecting this to happen... I might be fool, don't know.. I can't control all the variables. I just wanted my account to grow a lot (not growing fast enough by the way ). I am sorry horizon.... funny that the account I was about to give you ended up crushing you

Hi all,

Well its been almost 2 months since I am in V mode I left because this game became very boring and kind of a waste of time. The addition of the classes made it even worse... at the beginning it was kind of refreshing but after somedays the only way of keeping up was to do expeditions 24/7.

Nevertheless it was somehow nice to play this game again. I met some nice people in my alliance DGX and outside of it. Not even sure who is playing anymore, but in any case good luck in life!

I will be giving my account so at least someone can use it, I should have done it earlier but... I was not sure if i would come back or not.

Stay safe and healthy!
Edgar

i totally agree, i spent 2 months doing expeditions and got burned and left. I think the game is no fun anymore... all players can grow at similar rates and fleeting/mining is not worth it ..

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No, that's not what I wrote, I wrote that my newest expeditions are sitting at a higher %.

I am sitting at 18,75% (156/832 total expeditions)

Granted it's still a small sample size, your 27% seems really unlucky.

do you change system?

just happened to me

I wrote this the other day in another thread.

Guys do you also have the following problem in your unis? This got way worse since the update due to the newly introduced "mechanics"

Some people have multi accounts running bots that do 24/7 expeditions and then after some days they push the main account... some dude (and known to be a universal cheater in every uni he goes) has increased in ~1 month 150% of his points in a 1 year old uni... You can clearly see the pattern that several accounts are 24/7 online all the time doing expeditions and then suddenly some days they lose all the fleet points while the pushed account gets it (all through market place)

The worst is that mods will allow this to happen... So I have several questions.
1. Is this happening in your unis?

2. Even tough the market place is legal, why arent those behaviours forbidden ? The pattern is clear... X accounts are selling cheaper to benefit 1. And those accounts have very fishy behaviours.

3. Why arent accounts that stay days always online banned? Just because a human could do that?


In my uni there is a set of accounts doing expeditions 24/7 and they have a crazy growth, no matter how small they are. Expeditions allow big growths now... then those accounts suddenly lose everything one day while some people get all the points...

Guys do you also have the following problem in your unis? This got way worse since the update due to the newly introduced "mechanics"

Some people have multi accounts running bots that do 24/7 expeditions and then after some days they push the main account... some dude (and known to be a universal cheater in every uni he goes) has increased in ~1 month 150% of his points in a 1 year old uni... You can clearly see the pattern that several accounts are 24/7 online all the time doing expeditions and then suddenly some days they lose all the fleet points while the pushed account gets it (all through market place)

The worst is that mods will allow this to happen... So I have several questions.

1. Is this happening in your unis?
2. Even tough the market place is legal, why arent those behaviours forbidden ? The pattern is clear... X accounts are selling cheaper to benefit 1. And those accounts have very fishy behaviours.
3. Why arent accounts that stay days always online banned? Just because a human could do that?

Its broken as F.

I think the only people that could know that discoverer was a good choice are the ones reading the forum. All the other players had no idea this would be like this. Why? Cuz ingame class info is ultra vague, and you could not have predicted from that information what reality would be.

I am "glad" I waited 2 days, read the forum and then selected class. However, being a discoverer is not all roses, I am starting to be tired of doing expeditions 10h a day, its boring as fuck. For a miner its nice that the game has moved into a player vs "AI", but basically this has killed player to player interaction. I expect a big nerf, however they are very very slow in this company.

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Oh and by the way, I compiled all of my expedition results and it looks like this:

Chance of getting Metal: ~15%
Chance of getting Crystal: ~10%
Chance of getting Deuterium: ~5%
Chance of getting Dark Matter: ~7%
Chance of getting Items: Guaranteed 2 per day if enough expos are done. But generally within the 1st wave of expos you get them. (they are messing up a bit of the percentages)
Chance of getting Ships: ~16%
Chance of getting a Merchant: ~0,5%

Chance of Nothing happening: ~26%
Chance of your fleet taking a short trip back: ~2%
Chance of your fleet getting delayed: ~6%
Chance of losing your fleet: ~0,2%
Chances of fighting against Pirates: ~6%
Chances of fighting against Aliens: ~3%

Average Metal:Crystal:Deuterium PER EXPEDITIONS (This includes the value of ships as well): ~3.4 million Metal + ~1.5 million Crystal + ~400k Deuterium

Basically, after sending 10 waves of 7 expeditions per day, you are going to be averaging:

238 million metal + 105 million crystal + 28 million deuterium.

On a x7 eco Universe with top player being >100.000.000 Points.

And with Dark Matter, you will be getting 3.570 DM per day. Basically, a merchant worth of DM per day on average.

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Do you change system or always same?

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Deployments return 50% of the fuel cost once they land (and if not recalled) but on the planet they deploy to, not from. I assume the update is returning this deut to the wrong planet.

Lol i just learnt that... so basically the cost of deploying is half what we see in the game right? (if we dont recall) I was always wondering why transports and deploys had the same cost... but now it all makes sense

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This is just as reliable as sending 5k or 10k lf, but just larger scale

If I had the LF I would send 1kk per expo, and then I could make 2-3 bil a day from pirate battles

Wait a goddamn second...

Are the DFs against Pirates and Aliens capped at 40 million resources??? How would you be able to get 2-3 billion resources a day when you can just encounter them about 5-6x a day(with some luck)?

Or is the cap not applied?

Ahh good question, I havent sent more than 100k lf and the cargos

From memory my largest DF has been about 68kk

So with 20% of my 60kk losses adding 12kk to the DF, the other 56kk must be coming from the Aliens

i.e. Not capped

I thought they had changed it to no Cap, but only 20% DF

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definetely not capped, i just had a 260m debri fight

cant be too happy about it though because this very morning I lost 700k light fighters in one expo

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Hollyyyyyyyyyy molllyyyyyyy

You did something wrong there, for eco 7 is:

25000*2*1.5*7*200 = 105M metal, 52.5M crystal

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Anyone know why with this V7 I get logged out literally 25-50 times per day? its driving me nuts

yes its all the time, probably its cuz they are testing things and the server logs out everybody

One good thing with this tho is it messes with alot of the bots so it has become alot easier to catch them

haha nice, its actually an excellent way to try attacks on who you think its a bot... whenever this happens maybe the bot crashes LOL

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Anyone know why with this V7 I get logged out literally 25-50 times per day? its driving me nuts

yes its all the time, probably its cuz they are testing things and the server logs out everybody

Also, why do you add small cargoes?

Well that means making a 5B size fleet just for expeditions. For you its easy cuz you are from the dominant alliance, but for the ones that are preys in the uni that would be to risky probably

Yes also, there are different types of aliens and pirates: small medium big, if you get big aliens you will also lose a lot.

Around 200k in a 0.5 uni

So the cost is -200K deut + 0.3% (if havent changed) of losing 500m + ~35M prob 8% , lets see long term xD

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I will just chime in about the pirate battles not being worth it

Even with black holes I am coming out ahead

Just tacking on 100k lf and 10k SC on top of a regular expo fleet

I want a number I can use and take off cargos, put in fleet, and ensure than even alien encounters turn a profit.

100K LF is a lot of duet. Not sure what your max point guy is, but try 10K LFs, and add SCs until you get the cargo space number you want to find (max crystal is mine) Run all 7 like that. Like a 1-1 ratio of LFs and SCs that is close to the number you need for max cargo space, max structural integrity of fleet, max ships finds. Add a PF and run all expos like that.

Max points is over 100kk here

And the pirates/aliens dont depend on that, they are always a percentage of your own fleet

Like in the image below, the Aliens would have 40% of my fleet whether I send 10k lf or 10 million

I know I am using more than is required for max ship/res find, its because I now make as much from pirate battles as regular expos some days

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How does that play with blackholes? that is a what 500m fleet?

Grimm do you also have terrible expos today? I think its the worst day till the update