Posts by Madoka

  • Hierarchy of communities / management?

    It is technically an option to contact org people and we can reach out, but we have no leverage anymore then you do to reach whatever end goal it is you wish to use.


    What id best suggest is try reaching out via a ticket for that specific community.

  • Rebuilt moons and bashing

    Quote from Kelenken

    Thanks for the confirmation


    This is the same game wherever it is played. It is quite absurd that different communities can have different rules...

    Happens a fair chunk more then you think, so its always advisable to double check the boards for each community you play

  • Bot issue and possible solution?

    Noone ever said you needed to provide proof. But when you openly admit you dont have eyes on them for more then your own active time you can't just wildly claim they are a bot without any additional proof. And I do like to help and help all the time, but again I remember you getting helped twice previously and basically telling off the people who were giving you the correct answers because it wasn't the answer you wanted. Infact from this reply it seems all you want is us to say "Yes theres a problem with bots and they exist" which imo is a duh and does not need to be said and is not an original thought or idea.

  • Bot issue and possible solution?

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    First, In Volans the amount of active players is almost >500 players all the time, which is impossible if compare to other servers. Second, there're many people with original name (they use the same name when the account was created) that had outcast status, because they send weak fleet to attack strong players. I understand the second points that it is legal to push in Volans, what I mean is that when the amount of these weak players, who are soooo willingly to push players which is almost thousand times bigger than them, is soo big, then it is obviously strange.

    Those are multis Multis are legal in Volans

    I understand multi are legal in Volans, but when the number of multi are too big it becomes abnormal. Say the other day I just happened to spot a player have a debris of over 150M resource at her planet. Now assume that she is playing multis, how many accounts that needed to create that big knowing that those account are less than 10M points and they lost around 1M points after the attack ?

    Nothing youve said raises any suspicions though. 500 online accounts if there is like 250 actual players in the uni (lines up with what it should be for age of server and other org servers) we assume 75% of the players are offline at anytime that leaves 62 people as the minimum online number of actual players. Thats less then 10 accounts each, and Ima guess your 500 number comes from prime time, so theres likely more along the lines of 100 - 150 people actually online.



    as for 150million debris? Thats next to nothing at all. I can build an account from 0 to that in like a day and a half tops lol.

  • Bot issue and possible solution?

    Quote from Cavabien

    First, In Volans the amount of active players is almost >500 players all the time, which is impossible if compare to other servers. Second, there're many people with original name (they use the same name when the account was created) that had outcast status, because they send weak fleet to attack strong players. I understand the second points that it is legal to push in Volans, what I mean is that when the amount of these weak players, who are soooo willingly to push players which is almost thousand times bigger than them, is soo big, then it is obviously strange.

    Those are multis Multis are legal in Volans

  • Bot issue and possible solution?

    I wont give any specifics as i'm not going to help anyone game the captcha system. But there is literally services out there where you can pay people to do your captcha's for you (indeed for use for those with disabilities)



    Secondly and I missed this in my first post, Im realizing your referencing Volans here, which further explains all the same tech/no mines accounts. People are allowed multiple account sin that uni, most just exploit the known advantages of disco expos and spend little to no time doing any of the other more tedious resource making methods like mines or techs when expos easily bring is 100's of millions of res a day per multi.


    As for the second to last points. I posted the dates of the original two attempts. The third attempt is no longer there.


    And finally, your implying I don't care about the game or havn't already pitched dozens of ideas on the very subject. None of your suggestions are even new from a user perspective. Just because someone doesnt agree with your interpretation of a solution or your interpretation of who is and isnt cheating doesnt mean they don't care about the game and implying such wins you no friends.

  • Bot issue and possible solution?

    Ill start with a few things.


    A captcha is beatable, it uncommon to spend the time to beat it but they are beatable.


    Second your timer method will just mean people running bots would just need to enter that captcha on the timer, so you would have to make the timer so small and intrusive that it would just be obnoxious to every player.


    Popups are just offensive poor design and should never be considered.




    On the subject of your specific bot gripes

    Additionally missing an attack on a player is not proof of them being a bot, this is what you were "told off" about by many of the other regulars about when you complained the first time(s) and when you decided rather then entertaining what was being told and said to you by highly experience players you would much rather just double down and walk away.


    Having been on both the game team and player side of handling bots I can say for sure that a lot of people are way to over confident about who is and isn't a bot. I'm not saying they are not out there but there are many more explanations to someone not messaging you or waiting to move their fleet than botting. These can range from trying to set you up to be ninjaed/time backed. Wasting your fleet slot for even daring to attack them through to just not caring enough about what your doing to respond or literally just getting lucky and logging in at the last moment.



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    Additionally I looked into your entire public chat log in the discord out of sheer curiosity and because its still there in the server. The first time you asked about the behaviors you claim are bots, you were told by another player the reasons why someone might do what you are suggesting in a calm, friendly manner. Your reaction was to try and blast off at them and respond rudely. This was on May 26


    The second time you came back you claimed they flamed/trolled you and again ranted about the bots. You got an answer from a different user on how to handle it and then walked away seemingly satisfied. This was on May 29.


    Finally when you made your third attempt, it became clear you were just phishing for sympathy when you came back and again ranted about how to deal with bots and how the things you listed in your post are too suspicious. You had by this point been told every reason why you could be wrong (or could be right who knows if you dont report them).





    TLDR:


    - If you think someone's a bot report them via the support system.

    - There are many legitimate reasons to do what you think is bot behavior.

    - People grow tired of listening to you rant on the same soapbox about the same topic every couple days when you've been told step one and two already.