Why does GF choose the settings for new universes?
I trust them, simple as that. I think the team is more than capable to filter the desires of this thread and convert it in reasonable settings.
Did I read that right? Trust GF to get a merge right.......
Cheers for one of the best laughs in the last 20 years this game has existed. 
In all seriousness there needs to be a PLAYER poll for the settings. Please.
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The point of leave Uni1 out of merges just because it's an old universe with too many points, while you are including Oberon, Quantum that have even more points than uni1 makes no sense...
Keep in mind that some people on those universes could merge to the x1 option if they want to switch to a more easy target (maybe not top10 players, but someone between 11 to 100 that still will get more points than you).
We also have some newest servers as Ferdinand that it's x4 and they would have the same 'problem' with Quantum players that you have with uni1 players.
The viable option for your suggestion is change Beta to x2 warspeed as a target and make exodus to the low points universes (Dorado, Cetus, Dione, Earth and Ferdinand)
On the other group we would get uni1,Bellatrix, Quantum and Oberon
So:
Group 1
Bellatrix, Quantum, Oberon
Targets: Uni1 and Gamma
Group 2
Dorado, Cetus, Dione, Earth, Ferdinand
Targets: uni1, Alpha
But, on that case, keep in mind that community will get the following universes: Uni1, Vega, Alpha, Gamma
And that means that in the next merge (probably on 2024), those 4 universe will be merged on 2 exodus and 2 targets (maybe receiving more exodus from newest universes with LF that are out of merges now).
So, soon or later merges makes that newest accounts are moved to the oldest servers.
If Alpha was a 1x warspeed group 2 would be a nice option. Is there a reason Beta was dropped in this scenario? Why not make it the 2 or 3x uni and make Gamma a 5x uni? There just seems to be a ton of resistance to any new 1x warspeed uni for a merge outside of leading all accounts to uni 1. 2x for 1x players just leads to faster MD's, lost fleets, and more quitting. Most 1x players like a full night of sleep which is why we play 1x.
Furthermore, if you want to really balance a merge and create competition, why can we not program newer unis to only accept players up to a certain points level? It would be a lot different to send a 300-500kk point account to uni 1 than to send a 30-50kk account. The top of universes are always top heavy so why not send them where they will actually have competition and leave smaller growing players to grow in their own uni. Keeps out the big fish which is a major complaint and a main part of your rebuttal Danimanza
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I asked the graveyard as a target and it's not possible.
I didn't get a reason but I guess it's to avoid people joining LF universes masively, that might cause lag, as they would make too many LF levels requests in a short time (that it's reason why they are not able to activate LF on old universes yet).
Who did you ask? Do they have a corporate email address we can ping? Because this merge and the graveyard top 20 restrictions are BS and everyone is pissed. And they (whoever they are) keep hiding behind the volunteer staff. We're telling everyone to email info@gameforge.com and open tickets and just elevate them right to COMA and get someone from Game Forge to respond to their customers, you know the players? The people that keep this game afloat. The volunteer staff should all just walk at this point because this customer service they're being forced to do is disgusting.
Mate please, of course he's not gonna do that. Sometimes you've to accept things in life as they come, I'm very afraid for you this is one of these things. Of course you can discuss things in a constructive manner in this thread but the way you do it now is just downright annoying.
And btw, we have someone here on the board who's in rank above the COMA's and makes the important decisions. But as I see your behaviour here I think I'm not gonna mention him. Look around you, maybe you'll find him...
If you are referring to WeTeHa then I am sure he is already aware of this thread. I would like to again please ask that my previous post below please be considered as a legitimate part of the discussion. There appears to be no way to save Dorado and regardless of the e-mails and such that are being pushed, I do not expect Doraro to be saved. Dione too. That can be okay provided there is a legitimate alternative which does not leave those accounts to be shark food.
Danimanza Prongs WeTeHa I am respectfully asking for you to review my post below about creating a new 1x warfleet uni with lower eco and tech speeds than uni 1 and also about having it be a universal target for the merge. Any thoughts and feedback would be appreciated. If there is someone else who this needs elevated to then I would be happy to do so.
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Danimanza I would also very much like it if Dorado could just stay as it is or something like that. I like to play mostly 1x uni and already have an account in uni 1 so this would be deleting an account that is 10+ years old, just doesnt seem right to me
As there is only one x1 target, you can :
- choose another target and give it a try. If you don't like it, you can use the next option.
- migrate it to uni1 and make one of them inactive (the one you don't want to play in uni1), then go to the graveyard and then send them to any x1 universe that it's not involved in the merge.
So I am also in the legacy settings camp, but have played under other settings as well. Even if Dorado ceases to exist which we should all recognize as a shame, is there any other possible 1x uni alternative that GF will accept other than forcing Dorado players to uni 1?
It is nice to have a chance to be in the top 100 or 150 if I work really hard on my account, but in uni 1 most Dorado accounts would fall outside of the top 400. We have all played a mid ranked account at one point, but few of us understand what it is like to build that account through perseverance, patience, and a lot of time into a top 100, top 50, or top 25 account. I just do not want to see all of my efforts wasted because we are going through a merge yet again and many other players who have invested money into the game feel the same way if not moreso. In uni 1 Dorado and Dione players will largely be sentenced to acquire a new account to be truly competitive (some devils advocates will argue this, but every veteran player knows exactly what I mean), or spend all of their time and effort to get a good rank only to merge again/be merged into (Poor uni 1 players as baal tried to point out) and have it be ripped away from them.
Danimanza Is it possible to create a new target uni with 1x fleet, 3x eco, and 6x research or 1x fleet, 5x eco, and 10x research? ( aliendestroyer option 7)
Can it also be possible to make it an overall target for any merge group as well so that there are plenty of players to populate said uni?
I love the 1x all legacy settings, but if I have to give it up, my option is a lot more fair than throwing almost all of the Dorado uni players to the wolves?
Display MoreDisplay MoreDanimanza I would also very much like it if Dorado could just stay as it is or something like that. I like to play mostly 1x uni and already have an account in uni 1 so this would be deleting an account that is 10+ years old, just doesnt seem right to me
As there is only one x1 target, you can :
- choose another target and give it a try. If you don't like it, you can use the next option.
- migrate it to uni1 and make one of them inactive (the one you don't want to play in uni1), then go to the graveyard and then send them to any x1 universe that it's not involved in the merge.
So I am also in the legacy settings camp, but have played under other settings as well. Even if Dorado ceases to exist which we should all recognize as a shame, is there any other possible 1x uni alternative that GF will accept other than forcing Dorado players to uni 1?
It is nice to have a chance to be in the top 100 or 150 if I work really hard on my account, but in uni 1 most Dorado accounts would fall outside of the top 400. We have all played a mid ranked account at one point, but few of us understand what it is like to build that account through perseverance, patience, and a lot of time into a top 100, top 50, or top 25 account. I just do not want to see all of my efforts wasted because we are going through a merge yet again and many other players who have invested money into the game feel the same way if not moreso. In uni 1 Dorado and Dione players will largely be sentenced to acquire a new account to be truly competitive (some devils advocates will argue this, but every veteran player knows exactly what I mean), or spend all of their time and effort to get a good rank only to merge again/be merged into (Poor uni 1 players as baal tried to point out) and have it be ripped away from them.
Danimanza Is it possible to create a new target uni with 1x fleet, 3x eco, and 6x research or 1x fleet, 5x eco, and 10x research? ( aliendestroyer option 7)
Can it also be possible to make it an overall target for any merge group as well so that there are plenty of players to populate said uni?
I love the 1x all legacy settings, but if I have to give it up, my option is a lot more fair than throwing almost all of the Dorado uni players to the wolves?
Just to be sure, those options 3 till 6 I posted were a quote from Danimanza's post at page 12. Those options are already discarded by the team or rejected by GF as Danimanza stated there.
I was not sure if you know that. I'm sorry if you did.
Sorry this thread was lengthy so I thought you were adding options that people suggested. Sorry for the confusion. I am hoping Danimanza will have an opportunity to address the suggestion.
Danimanza I would also very much like it if Dorado could just stay as it is or something like that. I like to play mostly 1x uni and already have an account in uni 1 so this would be deleting an account that is 10+ years old, just doesnt seem right to me
As there is only one x1 target, you can :
- choose another target and give it a try. If you don't like it, you can use the next option.
- migrate it to uni1 and make one of them inactive (the one you don't want to play in uni1), then go to the graveyard and then send them to any x1 universe that it's not involved in the merge.
So I am also in the legacy settings camp, but have played under other settings as well. Even if Dorado ceases to exist which we should all recognize as a shame, is there any other possible 1x uni alternative that GF will accept other than forcing Dorado players to uni 1?
It is nice to have a chance to be in the top 100 or 150 if I work really hard on my account, but in uni 1 most Dorado accounts would fall outside of the top 400. We have all played a mid ranked account at one point, but few of us understand what it is like to build that account through perseverance, patience, and a lot of time into a top 100, top 50, or top 25 account. I just do not want to see all of my efforts wasted because we are going through a merge yet again and many other players who have invested money into the game feel the same way if not moreso. In uni 1 Dorado and Dione players will largely be sentenced to acquire a new account to be truly competitive (some devils advocates will argue this, but every veteran player knows exactly what I mean), or spend all of their time and effort to get a good rank only to merge again/be merged into (Poor uni 1 players as baal tried to point out) and have it be ripped away from them.
Danimanza Is it possible to create a new target uni with 1x fleet, 3x eco, and 6x research or 1x fleet, 5x eco, and 10x research? ( aliendestroyer option 7)
Can it also be possible to make it an overall target for any merge group as well so that there are plenty of players to populate said uni?
I love the 1x all legacy settings, but if I have to give it up, my option is a lot more fair than throwing almost all of the Dorado uni players to the wolves?
Nice teamwork there! Gotta respect a job well done! Enjoy the spoils and hopefully you share some around with your mates 
Display MoreWe've been checking this thread closely and getting the different options you suggested here.
After a few internal discussions, some of the options were discarded by the team and others were rejected by Gameforge.
Currently, we are between two options, so we probably open a poll in-game to decide which one will we apply:
OPTION 1
Group 1
Exodus: Oberon (141), Bellatrix (154), Cetus (181), Earth (183), Ferdinand (184),
Target: Quantum (117), Alpha*
Group 2
Exodus: Dorado (156), Dione (182)
Target: Uni 1, Beta*
OPTION 2
Group 1 (unique)
Exodus: Quantum, Oberon, Bellatrix, Dorado, Cetus, Dione, Earth, Ferdinand
Targets:
Universe 1
New uni Alpha
New uni Gamma
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New universe Alpha: 8x eco, 16x research, 3x fleet
New universe Beta: 8x eco, 16x research, 4x fleet
New universe Gamma: 6x eco, 12x research, 5x fleet
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I also leave here a spoiler with the discarded or rejected options, so you can see that we considered them but they are out of the discussion now.
In case you feel that you have a different suggestion than those 6 options, please suggest it and we will consider whether if include in the poll or not.
The options for Dorado suck. Make Dione a target instead of an exodus or send us to Gaspra. If you can let whales kill Dorado but we can handle that just fine then the Gaspra folks should be just fine when Cathedral has his fleet there.
Please use the thread to give your general feedback about merges, you can state if you like merges, if you hate them or how would you run them, but don't off topic or we will need to bring the warn/ban hammer
Are we able to get any answers to some of the later questions asked on this thread? There were multiple posts about Dorado residents including my own post which have gone unanswered regarding merges. Multiple posts have asked if there would be a poll here regarding merges. Other posts have mentioned the general lack of forum users and how this thread will not get to many ingame players prior to any implementation. Are there any answers regarding that situation? Finally does any of this even matter or are we going to repeat history? Previous GF history has these threads produced as a formality to cover up decisions that are already made and only need the corporation to feign asking for community input. Is this another of those times?
Again, I will ask again, can someone address the questions from Dorado, and is there any way to do a poll again like what used to happen? Thanks!
I agree with Cathedral that Dorado should be left alone. It should remain a target uni untouched just as uni 1. If it does need to be eliminated, Prongs Danimanza what would be the possibility those players could merge to uni 1 of ogame.de? Thanks and GL with these merges.
As a general note, most of us really do not want another merge and this thread basically guarantees that another merge will be happening. Please do recognize that you will lose more active players in the process just like what has previously happened. The merges have a cycle: merge, more players are active because some came out of v-mode to merge or hit new targets, 1-2 months later those numbers take a nose dive. Throw in a whale or two in there and you can consider the uni done because those accounts are spending a ton of money, but wrecking the game which does not create a challenge, but a constant David vs Goliath situation which is rarely won by David.
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You can stick lifeforms where the sun don't shine, NO lifeforms for uni 1
This man said it best.
If Lifeforms comes to uni 1, i will most likely quit OGame.
What Uni 1 actually NEEDs is
a) All obvious scripting accts banned. I can name 25 easily.b) A DF % increase to 50%
Better get your hits in while you can. Looks like your days are running out....
No, they are still worth doing as long as you have the slots. You will easily make a profit compared to the deut spend. The only issue is if you do not have enough defense to protect a returning expo from being smashed. GL and have fun!
Display MoreDisplay MoreWhy are you antagonizing them?
They are not going to stop probing you, because you probe them back. If they are much higher rank, you'll probably struggle to attack them anyway.
Just ignore it and go on with your day.
Oh hell no...go in guns blazing, every day, all day. A rank is just a number.
Pretty sure this guy is not a fleeter, but I could be wrong.
Someone clearly does not do their homework before creating a post about someone's play style. 
Waits for Cathedral to see the previous post.
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24 hours now.
The longest I have ever stood in a queue is 2 hours.
apparently, you can see it from space.
Quite quiet lately. Hopefully it's because of this and not this
Thanks man and ya its a little dull here but certainly not dead, I played back when the number unis all had 100-200 accounts those were dead !
Ah I miss those times. Many friends and an old board account back in the day. Great hit again and keep them coming!
Dorado does have life! Looks like retirement put you in the fast lane 
Enjoy the spoils and defender FR.
Enjoy the spoils and welcome! Defender FR. With all of those auction items I'm sure it won't be long
For all those who missed or did not take the time to read the spoiler, I think that some time needs to be spent congratulating Wraith on his Ogame career! Congratulations mate on your full time playing career and enjoy your semi-retirement 
It's been great having you around so long! Thanks for all of the laughs and lessons from the days of the staff too
Ouch. lol. To be dissed by someone who pretty much loves everyone on the boards puts someone at a new low. Ah, I do remember the Leda days. Felt a bit like playing limbo back then too......
Anyhow, because I didn't say it before, huge hit so enjoy the profits as I am sure you already have. WM, enjoy retirement and don't look back. Way better advice then GLOTR. Trust me because I looked back and well.....
Censored quote ~Cillidan
Rav3n Is the link above approved by GF? I would like to use infocomplete once again, but do not want to see a scripting issue.....
Interesting, so plz tell me who I am..
and plz deeper than showing me your ingame nicksearching skills
but I kinda know your "sources" lmao
It's ogame 2k22, take it or leave it ...
Mhm maybe we define the word whale different, but Imma totally fine with it/you do you
I think you'd be hardpressed to find players who would not call an account that is 7x larger than the top account in any established uni a whale compared to the rest of the accounts there. Dr. Joseph moving here is akin to El Dragon moving into uni 1 and that was considered a whale move.
