do not place it slot 4, miners need that for the civilian ship tech. currently in slot 5, they already have to make the choice between the most powerful of all production techs or orbital den. slot 1 is a deut production tech and envoys, and nobody needs more than one planet with envoy techs, so deut production is the choice for every planet beyond the homeworld. the playstyle that benefits the most from orbital den are the fleeters using packs, with just a 5 planets level 30 brings their storages up to hundreds of billions if not trillions of capacity, and if anything this choice should be moved to a location that makes them choose between metal production, or ship buffs.
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several researches left out of current tech tree, computer tech, IRN, hyperspace, and all three drives. while im not a major fan of adding the drives, a computer tech cost reduction tech or IRN boost is something i would like to see.
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Display MoreYeah, there's a little misunderstanding. It's the one from 2024 that almost got 70% x)
June 2024:
- 30% DF: 97 votes (31%)
- 50% DF: 215 votes (69%)
Total votes: 312
January 2025:
- DF 30%: 140 votes (42.6%)
- DF 50%: 189 votes (57.4%)
tempus fugit, thanks for the clarity.
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40% df no deut, everything else stays the same. we got close to 50% last time, 3 or 4 votes(?), like tochint suggested lets try a little foreplay first and not try to ram it all in at once.....
70% is required to pass, not 50%.
I feel like any change that does not include an increase in ECO is doomed to fail.The silent minority of miners will never vote to increase DF on it's own, and even deut to DF I don't see passing either.
So I think the only way to pass this is tied to an eco increase, or we can vote (september I think?), fail and then have to wait another 6 months to try again.as usual you misread what im saying yomi, we got close to 50% DF, we were 3 or 4 votes away
I didn't missread, you simply got it wrong.
Last vote result:- DF 30%: 140 votes (42.6%)
- DF 50%: 189 votes (57.4%)
We were nowhere close.slight mix up, you are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
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40% df no deut, everything else stays the same. we got close to 50% last time, 3 or 4 votes(?), like tochint suggested lets try a little foreplay first and not try to ram it all in at once.....
70% is required to pass, not 50%.
I feel like any change that does not include an increase in ECO is doomed to fail.The silent minority of miners will never vote to increase DF on it's own, and even deut to DF I don't see passing either.
So I think the only way to pass this is tied to an eco increase, or we can vote (september I think?), fail and then have to wait another 6 months to try again.as usual you misread what im saying yomi, we got close to 50% DF, we were 3 or 4 votes away
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40% df no deut, everything else stays the same. we got close to 50% last time, 3 or 4 votes(?), like tochint suggested lets try a little foreplay first and not try to ram it all in at once.....
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server bonus and planet slot are multiplicative with base mine production, EVERYTHING else is its own line item in the resource tab, each line item is generating extra res completely seperate from the other items, and everything gets add together for the final output. example: after server setting and planet slot you make 1000 metal per hour from your mine, the geologist will produce 100 metal per hour, the crawlers will produce 500 per hour, and the plasma will produce 200 metal per hour. add them all together, 1000+100+500+200= 1800 metal per hour. everything works this way items, lifeforms, crawlers, class bonuses etc, only server settings and planet slots are multiplicative.
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The solution is easy. Only allow 1 account per lobby in the same uni at a time. This really isn't rocket science. Its on the individual player to keep their own account active, not being deleted/ GYing and or finding a new player who doesn't already play this uni. You should not be able to pass the responsibility of finding a new owner to someone else. Do it your self. You should also not be able to collect accounts like infinity stones and use them to clog your systems so you can sleep longer at night. Using the explanation of "we have no owner" and can't find one is complete bullshit btw when the account has 0 mines, just astro or barely anything at all. The account is clearly a blocker and someone can build that account in <2 days if they wanted to and have better slots. You're trying to circumvent the rules, and now the loophole has been patched and now your here throwing a temper tantrum to the COMA who is just trying to promote fair play.
Want a blocker? Find someone who does not play this uni who will control it themselves and keep it active. I don't understand what the issue is. Well I do understand, but it shouldn't be that way. JuSt PlAy ThE GaMe LiKe ItS InTeNdEd or whatever it is that chaosk says.
I seriously can't believe im defending Prongs here, but common sense is common sense. This is a no brainer positive change .Thank you Prongs for being the best COMA we have ever had and responding here to keep transparency alive.
your entire alliance benefitted from the ability to hot swap accounts, you included..... funny how fast some of the largest abusers like to point fingers at people, that do everything to make sure they are staying with in the rules. an entire group of people, so hell bent on finding loopholes and blind spots in the system, the absolute kings of whataboutism, currency exploits, push hits, trade manipulation, constantly yelling at the top of their lungs.... why dont you go make some more fake ninja profiles under other peoples names and then spread that around the community, instead of interfering with the adults talking.
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you just don't know what you are talking about?
That's literally never happened with anyone whos company you keep so no surprise there.
i know a lot more than you might think my guy. dont get me started on what ive seen you do with harrassing certain members of the staff via discord.... i keep receipts.
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The solution is easy. Only allow 1 account per lobby in the same uni at a time. This really isn't rocket science. Its on the individual player to keep their own account active, not being deleted/ GYing and or finding a new player who doesn't already play this uni. You should not be able to pass the responsibility of finding a new owner to someone else. Do it your self. You should also not be able to collect accounts like infinity stones and use them to clog your systems so you can sleep longer at night. Using the explanation of "we have no owner" and can't find one is complete bullshit btw when the account has 0 mines, just astro or barely anything at all. The account is clearly a blocker and someone can build that account in <2 days if they wanted to and have better slots. You're trying to circumvent the rules, and now the loophole has been patched and now your here throwing a temper tantrum to the COMA who is just trying to promote fair play.
Want a blocker? Find someone who does not play this uni who will control it themselves and keep it active. I don't understand what the issue is. Well I do understand, but it shouldn't be that way. JuSt PlAy ThE GaMe LiKe ItS InTeNdEd or whatever it is that chaosk says.
I seriously can't believe im defending Prongs here, but common sense is common sense. This is a no brainer positive change .Thank you Prongs for being the best COMA we have ever had and responding here to keep transparency alive.
your entire alliance benefitted from the ability to hot swap accounts, you included..... funny how fast some of the largest abusers like to point fingers at people, that do everything to make sure they are staying with in the rules. an entire group of people, so hell bent on finding loopholes and blind spots in the system, the absolute kings of whataboutism, currency exploits, push hits, trade manipulation, constantly yelling at the top of their lungs.... why dont you go make some more fake ninja profiles under other peoples names and then spread that around the community, instead of interfering with the adults talking.
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Some contradictions and conflicting stories that are rubbing against the game mechanics.
The optionality is narrowing down to a few selections...I can help
BUT why would STREET purposely mess up a ACS defend, to only agree to send the rez back - seems like waste of time....so the options narrow further...
Likely, 1) ACS Defender in STREET changed to 0 by accident is the most likely scenario - I suspect they thought 0 encompasses 0-1 (like 0-60mins) which is plausible.
The other explanations don't match the game mechanics. So why not just come out say that? The later is not possible as others stated. No?
Let's be real clear here.
A defend was sent, and landed, and returned after zero seconds because he didn't have enough deut for the hold time, and didn't realise it then auto set to no hold time.
The thing that has confused me the most from this conversation.... Which side is the "correct side" of uni 1? And how does one know if they're on the correct side?
And this is where I'm at
Glad this worked out for you Flava Sava!
Never seen a drug addict steal someones wallet and then help the victim look for it?
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Display MoreI am not even going to play the rewards for temp items stuff that
Seriously they will do it to the Auction then import/export. They will not listen.
if everyone refuses to do rewards will they listen i doubt it. But its worth a shot boycott rewards
This game sucks already with all the new changes to rules and its going to suck even more.
already ahead of you on that, the rewards suck this go around anyways. no skin off my cheeks to just avoid doing certain tasks
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Ogame is a strategic game, you plan ahead of how to reach the top. If you keep on changing settings how am I supposed to plan ahead long term. I've had to change my account layout so many times already with every change/implementation/redesign even as a miner, I need more fields, I need to have more defense to keep myself non profitable, I have to move my res around more since the economy doubles, I need to up my storages, ... .
30% to 50% debris field is not a radical change. If, as the user above me says, you do not keep unnecessary stuff grounded, you won't be bothered by it.
Need more fields? Man, planetary field items are regularly given away in events.
Must empty the planets more often? What's the problem? You just do it.
Need more defenses? D'uh, maybe build them?
"...just do it."
So?
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Ogame is a strategic game, you plan ahead of how to reach the top. If you keep on changing settings how am I supposed to plan ahead long term. I've had to change my account layout so many times already with every change/implementation/redesign even as a miner, I need more fields, I need to have more defense to keep myself non profitable, I have to move my res around more since the economy doubles, I need to up my storages, ... .
30% to 50% debris field is not a radical change. If, as the user above me says, you do not keep unnecessary stuff grounded, you won't be bothered by it.
Need more fields? Man, planetary field items are regularly given away in events.
Must empty the planets more often? What's the problem? You just do it.
Need more defenses? D'uh, maybe build them?
"...just do it."
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it already changed ingame so i think so
can someone please take this retiree back to the old folks home
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regardless of the result pls stop bothering universe 1, if u dont like the settings just go and play somewhere else
Or make a number of feeder accounts and use them to abuse the system. Each to their own I guess.
We call that the Pagan special round these parts.
and we just call you special round these parts
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I just have a suggestion to make sure votes are fair, a player account should be older than 30 days in a uni to be able to vote on a setting change. This is to keep someone from joining multiple account to swing the vote in their favor. And I say 30 days because that's how long this process takes more or less from start to end.
we have been told doing this is can result in being banned, hopefully the staff has some way to enforce....
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it is currently impossible for a universe to be both target and exodus according to the puppet masters
as it stands u1 can either be 50% df or exodus..... mark my words
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Best All-Around Player: feathers mcgraw, enough said
Best/most Productive Fleeter: have to give this to Amotion
Best/most Productive Miner: KS-testudo, with honorable mention to nischu
Best Inactive Farmer: Seraph, hands down.
Most Missed Player: we've had several people leave us this year. Ice, Spaulding, Jex are my top 3
Best Newcomer: this is difficult but i can think of four names that come to mind. Shryke, Devitt, Cicada, kingsize
Best Hit of 2024: seems like we have a good one happen about once a month, hard to pick one
Best Solo Hit: too many good ones between the top fleeters of this uni. there are a lot of hits that we never see on the boards
Best ACS/Team effort: muppets vs amotion, solid attempt, but amotion slipped away like a greased pig
Most Persistent Rebuilder: moloch comes to mind
Best Alliance Growth: guild because of a 20bn ship points error in our favor (thanks mmorpg)
Most Improved Fleetsaver: sagacious
Nicest Player: sagacious, she takes the time to be nice to everyone, even if they dont deserve it and try to slander her name
Smartest Player: KS-testudo, from chemistry and math, other games we share a love for, to mining and lifeforms. you can always expect an informed and sound take from him
Most Dependable Player: pagan, not only can his team depend on this rock, but he has been there for other players time and time again.
Most Controversial Player: kevlard, you have trolled your way to the top of this category. so congratz on being the best of the worst
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Display MoreLeave as is 30%DF.
Wouldn't it be better to open a space migration?
Some universes even have 60% DF and Deut DF.The game is starting to become increasingly unbalanced.
I don’t know if you understand the importance of balance, why so few people play this game
A server that doesn’t even have 300 people online is ridiculous~!
Look at these detected pictures again!
I want to ask what's on the planet?!, there are a lot of spam emails all day long!There are lots of planets spammed all day long, the moon has nothing to target solar satellites on transfer planets?
Unless the Sun Satellite has no DF gained from combat or can fly away, I don't want any changes to DF.And the attack of aircraft like Deathstar is even more troublesome for farmers. In another universe, when I saw more than 1 million+ such attacks, I was really speechless and went into permanent V mode!
the point you are bringing up is valid, the balance of the game is very important. but you shouldnt be using solar sats at this stage of the game and, even if you are, the difference between 30% to 50% still doesnt equate to what changes lifeforms has brought with the increase of cargo capacity. the reason i have been steadfast against the addition of deut to DF is for the same reason, it allows people to inflate their fleet to the point that economy doesnt matter even more than has been allowed by packs w/ merching. the balance of the game has been altered beyond repair by direct monetary influence. that being said, running the numbers you are no more likely to be hit at 50% than 30%, the reason for this is because (and im just taking a shot in the dark) you are currently pumping out 2bn metal per day along with 350-400mn C and D. your greatest concern has nothing to do with the 1000 m and c per cargo, but the pure volume of resources you are carrying at any moment is. that volume doesnt increase or decrease based on DF %. you will remain a juicy target whether this vote passes or fails, and based on my understanding you will remain the target of choice because of your lack of fleet to pure resource volume, if it fails. by giving the fleeters more incentive to target one another you will be looked at with less vigor (even if the reduction is only by 20%). and as for your issues with deathstars, maybe doom needs to be more active to help you with that or find an alliance that will. people dont join uni 1 for the ease of mining. they come here for the challenge of playing with the best and if the way you are playing, isnt up to snuff, then i suggest you adapt.
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