Posts by spidey_nonsense

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Quote from indyNinja

I get that fleeters want to hunt fleets, but you cant say that miners don't risk anything.

Tell me what do they risk?

Also you are not looking at older, stronger accounts which have more points. Being a miner is bad for starting up the game, it might be more useful once you hit 3-4bil points if you pump full eco and don't invest into expo buffs. The point is you lose nothing with being miner and pulling res twice a day. I said it myself, discominers are totally unbalanced but you NEED to invest time and play the game + you risk being attacked while idling, so what would you prefer? Nerf to that playstyle or deut into DF to give fleeters a small buff which wouldn't even be that big, probably around 10-15% per CR.

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I am trying to figure out how people can say this is fair, when it is definitely not fair.

I don't even understand why do you think this ain't fair?

Let us compare what change in eco automatically does to miners compared to fleeters;

I don't have access to different accounts to compare but lets say 15 planets 5-6bil miner has lvl 52 metal mine, while 5-6bil fleeter will probably have less then lvl 50 but lets say he got lvl 50. Metal buff on miner account would at that point be at atleast 120% by that time so lets go with that even though i think it would be higher.

I won't include officers.

X8 eco

Miner 5bil points

lvl 52 metal mine produces;

Flat 2.393.000 / hour

Magma forge lvl 25 (50%) - 1.196.500

Crawlers idk 1200 maybe at 100% (not 150%) - 574,000

Plasma lets say lvl 23 - 550,390

Class collector 25% - 598,250

Alliance class trader 5% - 119,650

Lifeform tech bonus 120% - 2,871,000

Total - 8,302,000 / hour

Fleeter 5bil points - lets say they run humans

lvl 50 metal mine produces

Flat 1,902,000

Smelting lvl 25 (37.5%) - 713,250

Crawlers probably lets say 1000 - 380,400

Plasma lvl 23 - 437,460

Class general - 0

Alliance class - 0

Lifeform tech lets say 90% - 1,711,800

Total - 5,144,910 / hour

X10 eco

Miner 5bil points

lvl 52 metal mine produces;

Flat 2.991.000 / hour

Magma forge lvl 25 (50%) - 1.495,500

Crawlers idk 1200 maybe at 100% (not 150%) - 717,840

Plasma lets say lvl 23 - 687,930

Class collector 25% - 747,750

Alliance class trader 5% - 149,550

Lifeform tech bonus 120% - 3,589,200

Total - 10,378,770 / hour

Fleeter 5bil points - lets say they run humans

lvl 50 metal mine produces

Flat 2,060,000

Smelting lvl 25 (37.5%) - 772,500

Crawlers probably lets say 1000 - 412,000

Plasma lvl 23 - 473,000

Class general - 0

Alliance class - 0

Lifeform tech lets say 90% - 1,854,000

Total - 5,571,500 / hour

Comparison

x8

Total 15 planets daily miner = 2,988,720,000

Total 15 planets daily fleeter = 1,852,167,600

--- 1,136,552,400

x10

Total 15 planets daily miner = 3,736,357,200

Total 15 planets daily fleeter = 2,005,740,000

--- 1,730,617,200

x8 > x10 miner = 25% increase

x8 > x10 fleeter = 8.2% increase

Instant difference in eco change is 600mil/day for doing nothing and this results is basically bull*hit because it overestimates fleeter mines and underestimates resource buff of miner so difference is actually around 1bil+ / day for sure so actual % is even higher then this little test... And now you add deut into 30% DF and from every CR you make you get maybe 10-15% depending on fleet composition. I doubt it would be even 10% because most chased fleets have alot of cargoes thus low deut so actual benefit might be even lower on most CR's. Thats why people want 50%. Now you might say "but they are fleeters they farm it" and i tell you to go make fleet and find 1bil worth of profit every single day excluding deut costs from your profit and lets see how many recalls you do and how much deut you lose on it.

Do you still think asking deut into DF or even increase is unfair? You automatically have over 17% more value from higher eco then fleeters. Discoverers also have even larger gains due to increase in findings but as i said discominer is overpowered, for new accounts especially.

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If someone can show some stats like this but for how eco progressing to x8 while df % stayed the same has given miners a huge passive benefit that has been out of balance with typical fleeter gains from farming/fleet crashing (because that % didn't grow)...and how the active play of fleeters, with the inherent extra risk of losing fleet, should allow a fleeter to grow faster than a miner by default because the loss of fleet can easily undo all of those gains (miners can't lose their mines once they're built short up blowing up the planet) then you might be able to make a solid enough argument for 50% debris field...but don't focus on whales who are obviously unbalanced inherently, do it for the average player and account growth...I don't know enough about those particulars but that's my best suggestion for making some progress here, obviously there is a strong basis here, just needs to be in the context of how 30% df stunted growth of the average fleeter in comparison to how the eco increases to x8 benefited miners

Eco 10x instead of 8x

Positives:

- Able to reach that next insanely high mine or research level that much faster

- Players who have the highest mine levels gain a passive boost over those who spread out their spending at a similar point level (high level miner benefit)

Negatives:

- More res passively building up overnight that might encourage more attacks (this is likely to be a small effect but it is a concern people have)

- Top players become even more impossible to catch up to because the passive boost to their mines outpaces active fleeting gains even more (on the whole)

Outcome: If your only goal is to have the most points possible on your own account with no concern about what is happening around you then this is always positive. If you are worried about the overall impact on the universe, it has some good and bad that relatively balances out. Whether this happens or not makes little difference to the actual playing of the game other than numbers going up.

2x friendly speed

Positives:

- Expedition and Discovery missions happen faster which pretty much everyone would want

- Faster moving around of resources

Negatives:

- Changing friendly speed means planet distancing that used to be enough for overnight fleet saving will now be too short, even at the minimum 10% speed with a death star, meaning some players will need to change their planet locations and it takes a lot of dark matter to do this

Outcome: The best solution would be to separate friendly fleet speeds from expedition/discovery speeds. An increase to expedition/discovery helps new players who want to be competitive as quickly as possible to catch up to the top players even faster (until they hit the plateau of 3/4 billion points mentioned in a previous post) with the disco play style and makes higher level disco more viable. However, if friendly fleet speed is increasing then it should come with 3 to 5 free planet relocations. If neither of these happen then you're going to have a lot of people who won't want this because they set up their accounts how they like to play them based on the 1x fleet speed.

Debris Field set to 50% instead of 30%

Positives:

- Bigger bonus from crashing bigger fleets, making active targeting of other fleeters more beneficial

- Helps to offset any ecospeed increase that otherwise benefits high level miners more than high level fleeters by making active fleeting a more viable means of making up that extra res that the miners would be getting

- Smaller players who like fleeting can move up the ranks even faster

Negatives:

- Concerns of more profitable overnight bashing (again, a very small increase in the gains that could be got from this, but some people are really against anything that benefits people who play this way)

- Thought to mostly benefit whales (big crashes already gain more points in one go than most players will get in five years of playing if they don't spend money on the game)

Outcome: On the surface this seems like a bigger issue than it actually is for miners. Miners are mostly targeted for the giant amounts of res they move around in their cargoes, not the value of their ships. With eco speed already being at 8x, it makes sense for debris field to be at 50% to make fleeting a more viable option for the AVERAGE player. Yes, top fleeters benefit, but fleeting becomes more viable for the 1000 rank players too. It brings balance to the overall game to have 50% df with 8x eco, even if those at the top still serve to benefit the most. Players only get this benefit from actively fleeting which encourages people to play the game more. Whales are going to whale regardless of the settings so being against something for that reason doesn't make much sense.

Deuterium into Debris Field

Positives:

- A player can better offset their fuel costs when making a successful crash

- More deuterium available in the universe encourages more fleeting

Negatives:

- Once upon a time, fleeters needed miners for their deut, anything that puts even more deut into the game makes it easier for fleeters to play independently of miners, which further impacts the balance of the (already heavily unbalanced) game

Outcome: Mining style players who mainly have large cargoes will lose nothing extra from the change in this setting. However, more deut in the universe means more fleet movements which means a higher possibility of mining style players getting attacked more (you may disagree but this is the concern and why mining players vote against this). Unless part of a package deal or forced by the developers, this is unlikely to ever pass on its own.

0.7 Deuterium consumption

Positives:

- Fleets can go further for cheaper (yay fleeters)

- Big fleets can have a go at other big fleets more often

Negatives

- Fleets can go further for cheaper (oh no miners)

Outcome: In a universe where people aren't mass attacking players for little to no profit this change would mean little, but since that isn't the OGaming environment of U1 the idea of players being able to send their fleets even further for the same deut cost is going to be heavily contested. This is one of those settings where the actions of the few impact the overall perception of the many and that is likely to prevent this type of change from ever happening.

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I’m not looking for an argument, but in my opinion, eco speed up to 5x is fine for Miners. Beyond that, it just means having more resources to protect while you’re asleep. In other words, it increases the chances of being attacked, which means more defense is needed. But with BC enhanced by Lifeform, even plasma turrets are no longer a real obstacle. And if deuterium consumption is also reduced, it becomes even harder for Miners to defend themselves. Honestly, I’m not exactly sure what changes would truly benefit Miners in U1. And while it’s off-topic from the main purpose of this thread, as a Miner, what I really wish for is that the bonus of the 8th planet slot could be given to slots 7, 8, 9.

Hadn't considered it before but that eco argument is interesting and valid. Granted, what is a worthwhile target to attack has changed as the eco production has increased, but back in the day you could build enough defense so your overnight production would never be profitable or would be so minimally profitable that there would be no point to bothering. Now there is no defense big enough to protect against 0 loss fleets because big defenses get bashed until that's a possibility. Most people aren't piling money into the game to build defense, they do it to build fleet, so someone can bash your defense into nothing even if they take losses, then buy their fleet back, but the defender isn't likely to rebuild their losses to the same extent. As you said, the faster res are produced, the tastier a target any planet becomes. so while Increasing eco amount seems like it benefits mining style players, it may have just as many drawbacks. If we're focusing on personal growth then, yes, eco increases always make miners grow faster, but considering that extra growth in relation to the rest of the universe, it may not be all that significant. I'm thinking mining style players would be happier to vote for things like increased debris fields and less deut consumption if defense was more effective but fleeters definitely wouldn't want that to happen.

If Thuban has 10x economy when their top player has nearly 3x the points of Universe 1's top player, then Universe 1 should be able to get the same. If the recent merge showed anything, it's that the settings in U1 are starting to lag behind. Who would have thought there would be a merge where Vega got more interest? The speed of war and peaceful fleets shouldn't change (I know that wasn't suggested, but it is an issue people who are used to the faster universes have for why they don't come here) so U1 may always suffer from people seeing the speed change as a "downgrade", but such is life.

10x eco and df to 50% seem like they would make U1 more desirable again. Deut to debris field is still bound to be contentious because of how it is perceived. Less deut consumption might have been possible if top players weren't already playing 2x speed in this 1x speed universe, so an even greater advantage to being able to farm people from even further away isn't likely to get the support either.

If we really wanted to improve U1, smaller fleeters being able to profit more off of bigger players would be a real game changer. Say, if a player is 20 ranks above you either in score or military points rank (just because 20 ranks is already a standard for other things) then you get an extra 10% from hitting them, and if they are significantly higher ranked than you then maybe you get 100% df? We have a lot of ways for the rich to get richer but some kind of balancing like this, especially in such an old universe, might give reason for people to play here again. Probably difficult to implement but would give more motivation for smaller players to be active and interacting with higher ranked players.

This thread is a good thread. 10/10 would read again

GLOTR Captain

I posted this earlier in a link so, before it becomes a complete mystery, one extra post here to preserve it.

The Most Unlucky Hall of Fame? (March 15th, 2006)

Being new to OGame and trying to balance timing with resource management and moving ships as well as avoiding other people's ships can get quite hectic. When two people struggling with this at the same time end up in a battle together, the result can end up like this (though all wasn't lost, because it seems they each made a new friend). Lord Hyo shares the unlucky event.

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The Most Unlucky HoF in Uni 12 - Serkanaksu (Ataturk) Vs. Hyo-o (M.i.It)

Well, a little explication of what you will see below....

I am the defender, in this mess... The attacker was after one of my small fleets (20 cargo, 12 BS and so on...), returning from a raid... By sheer bad luck, I had my main fleet returning from a deployment 11 seconds before his attack... And to make this perfect, I got stuck in traffic, and was back home with 30 minutes of delay, 5 minutes only after the battle... And I have seen this:

The following fleets are facing each other at ----, as it came to a battle:

Attacker serkanaksu (X:XXX:XX)

Weapons: XXX% Shields: XXX% Hull Plating: XXX%

B.Ship 250

Defender Hyo-o (X:XXX:XX)

Weapons: XXX% Shields: XXX% Hull Plating: XXX%

S.Cargo 109

L.Cargo 164

L.Fighter 21

Cruiser 39

B.Ship 134

Recy. 6

Esp. Probe 32

Sol. Sat 14

Miss. 40

S.Laser 18

Gauss 10

After battle...

Attacker serkanaksu (X:XXX:XX)

B.Ship 85

Defender Hyo-o (X:XXX:XX)

L.Cargo 2

Cruiser 2

B.Ship 32

He captures

- Metal, - Crystal and - Deuterium.

The attacker has lost a total of 9.900.000 Units.

The defender has lost a total of 10.205.000 Units.

At these space coordinates now float 3.819.900 Metal and 2.071.800 Crystal.

The chance for a moon to arise from the debris is 20 %.

-- Created by Takana's CR Converter v1.752 beta - Dragon Takana --

Obviously, no moon ... Yet I have to say that speaking with the attacker after te battle was worth the loss, since I've found one of the most sportive and better player in my Ogame history...

Well... I'ts just a game... Now let's go rebuilding...

Reply from xzoren:

Well, at least it ended in a draw and both you and the attacker lost a lot. Take comfort in what you can!

Reply from ARSENIC:

Serkanaksu is a good guy but it would appear here that you may have gotten the better end of the deal. Definitely not a profitable attack...even as a first wave. :))

Reply from serkanaksu:

the story from the other side;

i am the attacker in the mess:))

the day before was my daughter's first birthday.

so i didn't even look at ogame. yesterday when i loginned i saw that

my rivals came closer so i decided to become aggressive.

after some attacks i decided to hit Hyo-o i phalanxed him and saw that a fllet was coming back from a planet so far i thought that fleet wouldn't be a strong fleet if it were it wouldn't be sent that far with sending too many deuts. I was so wrong, i have to watch for at least 2 days to hit a player on that rank but greed closed my eyes.

so that was result.

i could send more battle ships i said that i was greedy, ithought that

250 will be enough and i did not send recyclers my first goal was to get resources on the land. recyclers were on another mission as i thought the fleet was small.

after battle i was more sorry for his fleet.loosing 165 bs decreased my rank by 3 but the defender i think needs much time to rebuild.

i apologise him for this wish good luck.

the debris was shared by too many players i think. i got some from that df

Reply from FatalError:

lol... what was that..

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that deut haul :O

glotr defender

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is this thread going to move as well >><< ?

It already did, from a Tavern to a Galactic Hub, though whether it will die because of how old it is will be determined soon enough

Quote from zhog

Among the many amusing HoF i recall a guy who was called Belgarion and who self-HoF'ed himself and proudly posted it. It was still universe 3, i think. Probably not remarkable enough to be searched if it still exists.

If it does still exist it must have a weird title without his name in it because nothing popped up other than his first HoF and two players ACS crashing him

Remaining Select Top Tens

Top Ten Universe 1 (Originally posted by ThePatrician and updated numerous times) (September 30th, 2007)

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Universe 1: Top Ten Hits [updated 09/30/2007]

1: [TD: 3.741.768.000] jake [Kia Kaha] vs Phoenix of Light [Rolue]

2: [TD: 3.463.500.000] Aral & Doa [Mara.DIM] GoodbyeCR

3: [TD: 2.401.724.000] Aral [Mara.DIM] vs Shippy [Kia Kaha]

4: [TD: 1.952.143.000] Aral [Mara.DIM] vs The Downward Spiral [RoLUE]

5: [TD: 1.930.419.000] Destruction [Pirates.] Vs. No Cinqo De Mayo [Mara.DIM] WAR Hit

6: [TD: 1.849.255.000] Ham on Marble Rye [RAWK] vs. Power Groove [RoLUE]

7: [TD: 1.795.781.000] CraftySeed [Mara.DIM] -vs- LordBane (Plent2d) [Pirates] War Hit

8: [TD: 1.710.722.000] Merc [Knights] vs Sergiy [AL]

9: [TD: 1.489.459.000] Son of Thunder [Knights] -vs- Excessive [Pirates] Revenge Hit

10:[TD: 1.488.460.000] Kezia[RoLUE] vs. Fuse

Recently Removed:

[TD: 1.460.504.000] Jake [Kia Kaha] vs. Jon Targaryen [RAWK] War Hit

[TD: 1.448.708.000] Swirl [Mara.Dim] vs manuxmalu [The Borg]

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Annnnnd Done! Feel free to comment on any random thing you come across in this thread. Live long and prosper.

End of first merge CRs, start of select Top 10s from past universes

The final big batch of Post-First Universe 1 Merge CRs

More from the merge, will be another post like this, then a mix between this and select Top Ten archives

When old OGame turned into more modern OGame (we miss you classic OGame look...sort of), a lot changed and this post was meant to help people with the transition.

Safira's Post On The OGame Redesign (June 17th, 2010)

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This is a guide that will inform you about everything that was changed in the redesign. You can also read about the brief history of redesign.

Redesign is not just a fancy new look. It's a completely new coding, therefore you can't just change a skin to make it look like an old Ogame. Redesign was brought to Ogame to attract new players, extend the life of Ogame and fix the fundamental security bugs in the old design. The RD allows new technologies, ships, and changes to Ogame that were prevented by the old code and to have an up to date code and one that can actually receive updates without breaking down each time. It is a modern, straight forward code now, not the old patchwork.

Redesign also brought some of the player's ideas to life. See which here: Game: Suggestions implemented in the redesign

Note: All old converters don't work properly with the redesign. Useful Ogame Tools and Recommended Combat Report Converters threads have been updated. Please see which converters don't have bugs and use those.

Note: There are currently still some bugs in the redesign that are being worked on. Please visit Bugs and Complaints and check if the bug was already reported before opening a new thread.

Note: Please see the list of the important current game details here (does not include wider explanations - you can find that in other Guides and FAQs): Current game details

1. History

24.08.2007 - Seth Iorio first mentioned the development of a major innovation, but did not reveal what exactly it would involve.

03.10.2008 - Koop discovered a secret and revealed more information about the redesign. Promotional video was released.

07.11.2008 - Official screenshots of the redesign were released.

02.12.2008 - Introduction of beta universes (announcement thread: OGame Redesign - open Beta).

04.12.2008 - Two beta universes were released - uni 42 on Ogame.org and uni 6 on Ogame.de. That was the first contact for the community of redesign.

15.07.2009 - 15 updates happened in this period, with the most important being the 10th update which brought the Astrophysics and unlimited number of colonies (details: Redesign News - Reset and Features)

04.08.2009 - Version 1.0 was released with the first redesign universe Andromeda.

10.09.2009 - First update from 1.0 to 1.1 was released.

12.04.2010 - 23.04.2010 - Server updates were announced for old universes. This was a preparation for the redesign.

11.05.2010 - Universe 1 was updated to the redesign.

01.06.2010 - All old unis were updated to the redesign.

October 2010 - All old unis got the redesign features.

2. Design

As the name "Redesign" suggests, the first and most noticable change is in the game design itself. Even with all the changes, the way the game is played didn't change much.

Changes:

• In every menu you can now see a bar with fleet movements. It shows the number of your own missions, as well as any friendly and hostile missions heading to your planet. By clicking on the fleet bar, the entire fleet details will be displayed.

• The building menu is now divided into "resources" and "facilities". In "resources" are all buildings that are connected to resources. You can also build solar satelites from there. Under "facilities" you can find all other buildings.

• The "technology" is no longer directly linked in the menu, but is now located in the description of every ship, defense, building or research. There's an additional techtree which tells you specifically what you need to be able to build the desired item.

• Drop-down menu was removed and replaced by the pictures on the right side. Clicking on them changes the location to any other planet/moon.

• The planet's surface image depends on the planet's temperature. There are more variations of pictures: desert, jungle or ice pictures. When you build a mine, it appears on the picture.

• Requirements for buildings and more details are only avaliable by clicking on the icon. Starting a construction does not require opening a detailed view though - you may just click the green arrow to start the building.

• If the requirenments to start a building are not met, the building is crossed over with lighter lines. The construction button in detailed view is greyed out.

• The menu on the left side was shortened and the arrangement of buttons was changed.

3. Source code

In the redesign, the source code and programming is reviewed and changed according to Ajax. However, some basic coding is still the same as in the old design. The new coding makes it easier to fix the bugs. It also allows more extensions to be inserted in an easier way. Old bugs were indeed fixed, but there are now new ones which will require time and effort to get fixed.

4. New features

4.1. New storage properties

New storage capacities:

To balance the cost vs capacity, storages have been changed a bit. See a chart for details:

New costs for storages are:

level 1 metal storage = 1k metal

level 1 crystal storage = 1k metal and 500 crystal

level 1 deut storage = 1k metal and 1k crystal

The costs double with every level.

4.2. Astrophysics

Astrophysics is a technology that is based on Expedition technology. It allows you to send expeditions, but it also has a very important role in the redesign. It now enables you to have an unlimited number of colonies. The only limit is it's cost.

This chart will tell you how many planets you can have, planet slots you can colonize and expeditions you can send at a time depending on the level of Astrophysics technology. It will also tell you the cost of each level (same table can be found in the colonisation guide).

Colony positions: With the redesign, you're no longer capable of colonizing all 15 slots from scratch. You need to research astro tech which unlocks the edge slots of every system. You can find that data in last column of the above chart.

Colony size: Minimum and maximum planet sizes have also changed with the redesign. New sizes are around 80 - 250 fields. It is now easier to find a planet with 200 or more fields if colonizing appropriate slots. Biggest planets can be found on slots 7, 8 and 9. You can also get a 200+ planet on slots 5, 6, 10, 11 and 12.

Colony ships: Any resources loaded on the colony ship will be left on the new colony when colonising.

Planet temperatures: Slots closer to position 1 will still give a higher temperature, but lower deuterium production (vice versa for positions closer to slot 15), however, the temperature on positions 7-9 is now similar to the temperature on positions 4-6 in old design. Minimum temperature is -40°.

Value range for maximum temperature per slot

A chart with temperature/deut production/size values (same chart can be found in the colonisation guide).

Expeditions: The value of the expedition ship, which is important for determining the amount of resources or ships you can capture does no longer depend on the structural integrity. Heavier ships still use the formula "structural integrity/1000", however, most lighter ships are now 4-11 times better than before. Now you only need about one quarter of the fleet from before to get the same results, resulting in lower costs and risks.

More info:

4.3. Activity

See all info here: Activity

4.4. Tutorial

Tutorial is a special addition to Ogame. It helps new players to learn the basics of Ogame and gives you nice awards for completing the tasks. You can see the tutorial by clicking the question mark in the right top corner of the menu in overview. Follow the instructions to win the awards.

Note: The tutorial is still a bit bugged at the moment. Please see this thread for instructions: Ingame General Redesign tutorial bugs collection thread

5. FAQs

Quote Question: Is there anywhere I can still play the old styled Ogame?

Answer: Yes, but only on German server. Uni20 on ogame.de will never get a redesign. Note that it's a special universe. Here's it's features:

- 30% of destroyed defence goes to DF

- no ACS, no moons, no noob protection, no deathstars, no rapid fire and no Battlecruisers

- bashing is allowed

Remember that as it's a German universe, everything is in German language and you will have to communicate in German.

Here's a thread about it: many .org players to uni20.de?

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Quote Question: Are there any skins avaliable for the redesign?

Answer: Yes, there are some skins avaliable, however, they are not standard skins and don't work the same way as old design skins. They're legal, but not supported by GF, so there is no bug support for them. For details follow the links:

-> Other First Redesign Skin released

-> Dark New Ogame Skin SpaceProjectMGD

New skins will be posted in this section: Fan Art - Skins

Most players are looking forward to a skin that would look like an old Ogame. Good news is that it exists, but it's not yet translated to English. Their site (and screenshots) can be found here: http://spectr.co.ua/?p=631

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Special thanks to Shadowpyre and MisterP for help with this guide.

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When the very first merge happened, a lot of people were up in arms about it but it was an exciting event for a lot of players. You had Graf Zahl, Eddie, urza, Hogar Stashni, no 88, pinky, Cyyoung, and various other greats merging into the same universe, Universe 1, and you could feel the combined tension as no one knew what to expect. The old debates about "who is the best player?" seemed like they would finally come to fruition. Of course, some of these legends left anti-climatically, but enough stayed that it made for a very interesting first few months. With the way the archives are now, a lot of universes are all mixed together which makes archiving difficult, but below are the first few months of CRs before everything became so cluttered that it wasn't worth continuing.

Azgaroth's Guide To Fleet Composition (January 23rd, 2011)

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Fleet composition

Fleet composition

A balanced fleet is one of the cornerstones for any successful fleeter, especially mid game and late game, but it also plays a role in early game of course. The first thing you need to understand is that there is no general perfect fleetratio. What your fleet should look like depends mainly on how you´re planning to use it, i.e. if you mostly attack other fleets, raid or crack turtles. Or like most successful fleeters, all of the above. It also somewhat depends on what community you´re playing on and of course in which "stage" the universe is in.

The first part of the guide will explain the different stages of a universe from a fleeters point of view and how the fleet should be adapted to changes in these different stages. The time periods in which it is divided is not to be taken literally since these may differ a lot between different communities and universes, they´re just there to illustrate roughly in which time period these things occur. In the second part there will be a more in-depth explanation of the different ships, the pros and cons and how they work alone as well as in combination with each other.

Start of the universe (0-3 weeks)

The very first days of a universe the only kind of fleet you will be building are SCs and maybe a couple of LFs to get through those 2 RLs that most people have early on. As the game progresses the fleet builds vary a lot between different players and universes and it´s very hard to say what kind of fleet should be built because it depends very much on the opposition. Generally though, SCs, LCs (because they are faster than SCs before impulse lvl 5) and either HFs or cruisers will be all you need the first couple of weeks. Some people like to build HFs because they work well against all kinds of defenses except those who contain gauss and plasma, however from mid game and on there really is no use for them (explained in "The importance of fodder") so building them early game may not be a good idea. Since mines have such a fast pay-back time early on, you shouldn´t have a large percentage of your points in fleet by this period in time.

Early game (3 weeks - 4 months)

When you see a lot of gauss popping up on your farms it´s time to build some BS'. They will normally be your main raiding ship until people start building a bunch of plasmas. When you reach a couple of hundred BS´, LFs start to be profitable to build, still mainly not for defenses but for fleet crashes. This might also be the time to start building some BCs if you're hunting fleets a lot. Since most players around this time have mainly BS' and cruisers, BCs are extremely effective. However if you're mainly raiding up until now it's probably a good idea to put the LFs and BCs on hold and keep building BS´ for the time being.

Once your BS' have become your main raiding ship you should probably stop building more HFs if you decided not to do so earlier, because at a later stage in the game they're not really effective. It's really hard at this point in time to say what ratios of different ships to use because your ratio could and probably will shift drastically over just a couple of days. You just need to analyze the easiest way of getting as much res as possible from raiding and crashing and build the ships that will allow you to do that in the shortest amount of time possible.

Mid game (4 months - 1 year)

This is about the point in time when your fleet ratio really start to matter a lot, there are many different builds and a lot of them are "right", it all depends on what you're using the fleet for and how your opposition looks. If you haven't built any sizeable fodder fleet up until now, it's about time to do so. How much fodder you should have also depends on how the rest of your fleet looks, but to effectively act as fodder you will need at least 5 times more LFs than BS´ and as the game goes on that ratio should generally increase to about 10:1(or more).

After a couple of months plasmas are starting to show up on your farms and when a lot of them start to become non-profitable you will need destroyers with or without bombers to get through with profit. However the bombers are extremely slow until you get hyper engine lvl 8, so the bombers shouldn't really be used until they have the same speed as the destroyers. But either way, you should normally hang on to the BS as main raid ship as long as you can because you're going to need a bunch of destroyers to match them against defenses. Destroyers are of course not only used against defenses but because they are so slow, especially in the beginning, doing p&s against fleets is not going to be easy. The alternative is to build LFs instead, because they are way faster and works well against the same kind of ships (and mostly defense too).

The fleets that are seen now are probably going to consist mainly of BS, BC, Cruiser and LF. A lot of players however underestimates the need of cruisers and LFs and that is exactly why you shouldn´t. How many cruisers you should have depends a lot on how much fodder your average opponent has, but normally it should be at least 1:1 ratio vs BS´. This ratio should generally increase also as time passes so that when one year has passed the ratio should probably be closer to 2 or 3:1. This is not in any way a general rule that applies in every uni, you should calculate what will give you the best results against your average opponent and build accordingly.

In mid game even if you´re in the top 10 you will often face fleets that are pretty close to the size of your own and if those fleets have too little fodder or not enough cruisers, your fodder will rip them apart (explained in “The importance of fodder”). However even if your opponent has a fairly balanced fleet, the best weapon against it is also a balanced fleet.

After about a year

At this point in time the defenses start to contain a lot of plasmas so the BS start to lose its effectiveness against defenses and the cure for this is destroyers + bombers. Although neither of them is crucial to a balanced fleet, they can really help out a lot. The bomber of course is only used for defenses but the destroyer is a pretty well rounded ship (however slow), that can be very effective against fleets as well as defenses.

There are really no recommended ratios for these ships, although in mid game you should probably not have more than 0.5:1 destroyer vs. BS and the bomber usually a bit lower than that. If you decide to build them that is. About the same point in time as the destroyer start to become profitable as raidship, so does the LF, assuming that you have a bunch of them.

Late game (1 year+)

After about a year the universe slowly starts dying and the activity in general drops significantly. This means that you have to adapt to the fewer targets that are available. You can´t expect to do 3-4 raiding rounds every day at this point, at least not with a nice profit each round. This decrease in players generally means that easy resources is a lot harder to come by and fleeters are forced to attack turtles to a much greater extent than before. When going after turtles in the late game the fleet of choice is normally destroyers (with or without bombers) or large LF fleets. Many players prefer LFs for a lot of reasons (which are explained below) but destroyers are not a bad choice either.

Which of these two combinations you have available to you has a lot to do with how your fleet is used the rest of the time, if you prefer speed attacks you will probably have a lot of LFs for instance.

In late game large rip-fleets also start to appear and the destroyer is by far the best choice against these, even though you can get profit without them. If you prefer to use destroyers over LFs that doesn´t mean that you should have no fodder at all though, it just means that your fodder ratio will be slightly lower. The same doesn´t really go for destroyers, although having no destroyers at all late game is not recommended. Against fleets with no rips, you can do without destroyers, but against rips you generally want at least some destroyers to weaken the shields.

In late game if you´ve been around since the beginning of the uni you are going to be a lot bigger than many of your opponents and that means to crash their fleets you would normally have to send only a fraction of your fleet. This is where the BCs come into play. When you are far superior to your opponent sending only BCs often works out to be the most profitable choice. This doesn´t mean that you should only build BCs late game (or any other ship for that matter), it´s just something to keep in mind. Many players usually have BCs at about a 1:1 ratio vs. BS´ from midgame and on but it has a lot to do with personal preference. The most important thing is that you understand how different ships work alone and together and build a fleet that suits you.

The importance of fodder

The most common mistake I see in inexperienced fleeters is that their fleets often almost completely lack fodder. Without understanding how the battles of Ogame work it´s easy to wrongfully assume that: The more powerful ships I have the better my fleet is. Trying not to go too deep into the workings of the battle system I`ll explain why that assumption is incorrect.

Every ship, regardless of its weapon power, can only shoot down one ship per shot (round), i.e. it doesn´t matter if a rip hits a light fighter or a destroyer, only one ship is lost. This is not the whole truth though, you also have to consider RapidFire. Since the ships choose their target completely random in the battle it´s much more likely that your fodder will take a hit than any other ship (assuming that you have a sufficient fodder ratio). So the fodder is used to protect your stronger ships in the fleet, but also to prevent your opponents rapid fire against the heavier ships.

However light fighters sole purpose is not to act as fodder, it´s also one of the absolute best raiding ships, it´s cheap to fly, gets relatively low losses against a typical defense, you lose res to a ratio of 3:1 metal:crystal, but most importantly it protects your small cargos which considerably increases the speed of the attack compared to using large cargos. A “typical defense” means a defense that consists mainly of RL/LL and plasma. Most times you would profit more attacking that kind of defense with a large light fighter fleet than you would with for example bomber+destroyer. Maybe not always in pure losses, but in deuterium cost of the attack. Note that the LF as a raiding ship start to become profitable around the time most defenses start to contain a bunch of plasmas.

Why haven´t I mentioned the heavy fighter, isn´t that also considered fodder? Well yes, the HF can be used as fodder, but it´s too expensive to replace the LF and when it comes to protecting the LF, SCs does a way better job. So the heavy fighter can be used as fodder but it´s not the optimal choice. And the optimal choice is what we´re looking for right?

So if they´re not used as fodder what are they used for? In early game when most defenses mainly consist of RLs, LLs, HLs and ICs they are by far the best raiding ship because they take small losses against these kind of defenses as well as protects SCs in the same way as LFs (which significantly speeds up attacks after impulse 5 have been researched). However the problem with HFs is that after these defenses are gone and gauss and plasmas are plentyful, you will practically have no use for them. So if you´re planning to use them as an early game raiding ship keep in mind that these shouldn´t really be built in huge numbers since they very, very rarely are the most effective choice in any situation later on.

Light fighter

Disadvantages: Fairly slow

Advantages: Cheap, good all-round ship

How and when to use them: Battleship + light fighters works very well against for example battlecruisers and destroyers. If you don´t have a lot of destroyers it also works well against rips assuming light fighters are placed in ACS slot 2 with a bunch of heavy ships in slot 1 to take out the shields. When attacking fleets, LFs should generally only be used if you´re taking heavy losses by just using the heavy ships or if you want the attack to go faster than bringing destroyers.

Good against: BCs and destroyers as well as RLs, LLs and plasma

Bad against: Cruisers, HLs and ICs

Heavy fighter

Disadvantages: Fairly expensive both to build and fly. Is very rarely the best choice to send against anything, on its own or in combination with other ships.

Advantages: Fairly fast

How and when to use them: LFs+HFs or just HFs on their own can work pretty well against certain kinds of defenses, generally when there´s a lot of HLs and/or ICs

Good against: Does fairly well ship vs. ship against all ships except BCs and rips. Does very well against; RLs, LLs, HLs and ICs

Bad against: BCs, gauss and plasma

The heavier ships

The cruiser is also a ship that inexperienced players build way too few of. It´s the only ship aside from ds that have rapid fire against LFs and is therefore extremely important to have against fodder heavy fleets, but also a huge help against certain types of defenses. Some players claims that the cruiser is the best raiding ship, however if there´s gauss or plasmas present, the cruiser as a lone raid ship is most often a way worse choice than many other fleet combos. And if there are no gauss or plasma the HF for instance is in fact the better choice. The amount of cruisers you should have at one point in the game could differ a lot depending on how much fodder your average opponent is using, but 1:1 ratio vs. BS is generally the absolute minimum in mid game and in late game it´s not uncommon that about 3:1 is optimal.

Cruiser

Disadvantages: Not very durable, often takes heavy losses without the protection of fodder

Advantages: Extremely fast, Cheap

How and when to use them: The cruiser is a ship that very rarely does very good on its own and pretty much need the protection of fodder to work well in battle. The cruiser is mainly used against heavy defenses and large fleets (relative to your own) with fodder

Good against: LFs and RLs. Does pretty well against: LLs, HLs and ICs.

Bad against: Battlecruiser, Battleship, Gauss and Plasma

The battleship is sort of the basic ship of the fleet, it costs 3:1 (metal:crystal), it has relatively high attack strength and is fairly durable. It´s probably the most popular ship to build for newcomers and is very often overrepresented in the fleet partly because of the favorable cost ratio. Even though the battleship is an important part of the fleet it shouldn´t constitute a too big of a part of the fleet. Early game and to some extent also mid game it´s a reasonably good raiding ship, but it´s also common to use it mainly in combination with battlecruisers for fast attacks against smaller fleets. Since the battleship completely lacks rapid fire it´s often very ineffective on its own. It´s normally used in combination with other ships to either take down battlecruisers or destroyers but also as a type of fodder against certain fleet combos. In full-fleet attacks it´s well protected by the fodder and is a cheap way of dealing massive damage to the other fleets heavy ships.

Battleship

Disadvantages: No rapid fire

Advantages: Very fast, cheap, fairly durable

How and when to use them: Since the BS has a pretty high attack strength but no rapid fire whatsoever it generally works best in combination with other ships that have rapid fire, like the BC for instance. If you have a much larger fleet than your opponent the BS+BC combo works very well and is also very fast. The BS is also very good in combination with LFs against BCs and destroyers. It generally does very well against early game defenses (before plasmas)

Good against: Bombers and gauss.

Bad against: LFs, BCs and plasmas

There are those who claim that the battlecruiser is expensive to build and that it´s extremely overrated, which is true to a certain extent. Sure it´s expensive to build, both in metal:crystal ratio and in deuterium, but on the other hand it uses virtually no deuterium to fly and it´s also one of the fastest ships in the game. Since inexperienced fleeters, as was mentioned earlier, often build way too little fodder, the BC is as opposed to the battleship many times a good ship to send off on its own on account of its rapid fire against multiple ships. However you need to be aware that the BC on its own does very poorly against fodder heavy fleets and destroyers as well as plasma.

The ratio of the BC vs other ships is not really something that considerably affects if your fleet is balanced or not. It does have a significant RF against cruisers and BS´ but that will barely be noticable in fullfleet attacks against a fleet that has a "right" amount of fodder. However, late mid game and late game you will not be sending a lot of fullfleet attacks. You´d normally attack fleets that are much smaller than your own and that is when the BC is at its best.

Battlecruiser

Disadvantages: Expensive

Advantages: Very fast, rapid fire against numerous ships, very low fuel consumption

How and when to use them: As mentioned earlier, with a superior fleet to your opponent it´s good in combo with BS. If you´re attacking a fleet (other than rip-fleet) the BC should generally be part of any combination you send because of its rapid fire. If you have a far superior fleet, sending BCs on their own often yields the highest profit fleet vs. fleet

Good against: SC, LC, HF, Cruiser, BS

Bad against: LF, destroyer and plasmas

Bombers and destroyers are in fact the only combat ships (aside from heavy fighter) that are not crucial to have in your fleet, it simply depends on what your priorities are. If semi-inactive miner/turtles are one of your favorite targets they´re usually a good idea to have, but if you´re mainly living off of other players´ fleets it may be a good idea to prioritize other ships. This is mostly due to the increased speed of your attack if you don´t have bombers or destroyers. One of the exceptions are if you´re attacking a rip-fleet, then having destroyers would lower your losses significantly because of the rips´ relatively low rapid fire against it. BS´+LFs in ACS slot 2 works pretty good too though. The heavier ships are placed in front of LFs for instance, to avoid the “bouncing-effect”.

There´s really no ratio to be recommended here either, other than that you normally shouldn´t be building a massive amount of destroyers or bombers until late game. This generally means one or two years into the game, depending on the universe.

Destroyer

Disadvantages: Expensive, slow, high fuel consumtpion

Advantages: Very durable, high attack strength

How and when to use them: Bomber + destroyer work well against pretty much any defense. Destroyers generally work well on their own too against a defense unless there is too much RLs for instance. If you don’t have enough destroyers when attacking a rip-fleet, adding LFs to the fleet works well.

Good against: BCs, rips, gauss and plasmas

Bad against: Any kind of fodder, both ships and defense (with the exception of LLs). Also bad against BS.

Bomber

Disadvantages: slow, high fuel consumption

Advantages: Fairly durable, very good against defense on account of its rapid fire

How and when to use them: As mentioned above, destroyer + bomber.

Good against: All defense except plasma

Bad against: All Combat ships except BC, also bad against plasma.

Most players use rips solely for fleetsave. Because of its low speed you can go on a 7h+ harvest mission towards your own debris field, thus saving a huge amount of deuterium compared to fleetsaving against any other debris field in the system. Rips are also popular to raid turtles with in greater numbers. The problem with the rip as a raidship is that it´s very, very slow. This will lead to a lot of missed raids, but more importantly it gives other players a very long time to plan to get you on the way back from your target. Miners/turtles using rips in this way often have enough defense to make it unprofitable for pretty much any fleet to attack the rips on the planet, eliminating the risk of blind phalanx/phalanx. However the advantages of rips are that they´re extremely durable and will normally tear the defense down with no-loss even if the battle is a draw. They are also of course a very good defensive ship. You just have to weigh the pros and cons and decide whether it´s worth investing a large amount of resources on a rip-fleet.

Deathstar

Disadvantage: Extremely slow

Advantages: Extremely durable, extremely high attack strength (will “one-shot” all defense and ships except rips), rapid fire against most defense and ships

How and when to use them: Unlike other ships the rips almost exclusively works best on their own, the only exception is if you´re getting a lot of losses by attacking with rips alone. Rips are generally used to get a no-loss against a turtle that you can´t get profit on with regular ships and also as defense by turtles.

Good against: Pretty much everything

Bad against: Not really anything aside from other rips

Civil ships

How many large cargo ships you should have in the fleet solely depend on how much resources you normally keep around. Small cargos though are mainly used for raids and followups and should generally be at least 1.5:1 ratio vs. battleships. As mentioned in the beginning, small cargos are also a good fodder late game, assuming that your opponents have fairly balanced fleets. Small cargos role as fodder is to prevent the cruisers rapid fire against LFs. If you want to use small cargos as fodder you could effectively do so at a ratio as high as 3:4 vs. light fighter. It´s however more realistic to aim for 1:4 to 1:2. The amount of recyclers you should have depends a lot on how easily you could get recycling help when doing a solo hit, but recommended is to have at least 1:1 vs. battleship (generally a bit more).

Conclusion

Having a balanced fleet is always important to a fleeter, however a balanced fleet could mean a lot of things. What you should keep in mind while building your fleet is that your own fleet should be able to face every possible fleet combo, i.e. effectively prevent the other fleets rapid fire and at the same time do some damage to it. The recommendations in the guide are the general consensus of experienced fleeters but that doesn´t mean that everyone share these opinions as a "correct" fleet ratio is somewhat subjective. But what´s really important is that you understand how the different ships work together in attacks and how you get as much profit as possible from attacking your target.

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Written by Azgaroth on the Origin board.

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Turtles and Defense (by Tragic Escape) (March 12th, 2006)

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There are several definitions of what a turtle player is defined as.

1) Defence turtle

This is the most common type, and also the most frowned upon. This is the type of player who will build masses of defence, to make an attack on their planet unprofitable or almost impossible.

Although the Ogame saying 'There will always be someone with a fleet capable of wiping turtles away' is mainly true, most of the time players will avoid attacking turtles because no profit is to be made. Unless it's for the pleasure of wiping out the defence. Also, defence is there to increase attacker losses, thus making it less profitable, and therefore you are less likely to be attacked.

Defence turtles generally do not attack active players, but may often raid inactives with Cargoes, rather than build a fleet, they will invest all resources into mines or more defence. Most turtles will rely on high mines to fuel their buildings, often shipping all resources from 8 colonies to their home planet.

So, if I want to be an uber turtle, what should my defence be?

I will explain that in detail later on ... however heres some theory:

How many times has that question popped up, and unfortunately, there is NO answer.

Depending on your points you should try and keep it so that at least 25% of your total points are defence. Later on, that percentage should increase.... Depending on how intent you are on mines, research and other buildings.

The reason I believe 25% is the magic number, is because most of your 'solid' points (that is to say, points that can never, ever be taken away from you) will mostly be done before you reach 100k points.

Some of the later research (Gravi, high hyper engine, 24+ mines, and nanite 3+) will come (usually) after the 100k mark. And until then if you are intent on being a solid and hard to crack turtle, at least 25% of your points (so lets say you should have 25k points worth of defence by the time you reach 100k...

Is not that unreasonable.

However, without a fleet to build up, getting points can be hard, so after 100k points you should generally have alot of 'secure' points. Allowing you to invest in more defence using just mines as income.

This is vital, just like any fleet player, your defence is your fleet, and you can lose it. If someone wipes out your def for fun (which happens) you will want to be able to rebuild. High mines will be vital in this respect, just the same as a player who gets fleetcrashed will need high mines to rebuild.

2) Fleet/Moon turtle.

This is my favorite, and what I did in uni4. It works fairly well. It does however, require a moon! This technique requires little skill and religious fleetsaving.

I have very sketchy online times, but I can usually assume i'll be at a computer once a day with a net connection. Generally late at night. This technique works well, it requires 8 planets all geared to producing (ideally) one type of ship.. All I did was let my mines produce, build battleships, send them to my moon, fleetsave them. Within a few weeks of this you can start building up pretty decent fleets.

And after a few months...well, who knows

You will also find that will accumulate crazy amounts of deut since your not moving your fleet that much, there are a few things you can do with this deut:

1) Trade it - damn useful if you have good trading partners. The top 50 in any uni will always need deuter to move their fleet around. Even if you are getting a bade rate for your deut, it's much better than leaving it sitting at your planet.

2) Phalanx everyone in your range for small, easy to chew targets. This is also an uber tactic. If you have to break away 200 BS from your fleet to munch some poor guys small fleet, do it without hesistating. Small fleets produce debris for little cost to yourself. I used to look for fleets I could mash with no losses whatsoever. The advantage to this is that it's quicker and more fun than trading.

3) Ideal defence.

Well, people have been asking for a guide on what the 'perfect' defence might be. This, unfortunately has the same answer as the perfect fleet question. There is no answer.It is defined in part, by your universe, your points, your alliance, your standing...etc

Although there is, of course, the issue of fodder. Just ships, you will need cheap defence to be used as 'fodder' to take fire instead of your big guns.

Rocket Launcher (formerly: Missile Launcher)

This will be your basic fodder. Priceless in large numbers (1000+) they can become annoying at the mid-game when people are concentrating on BS rather than cruisers (which have a RF against these) Effective at the very start of a universe against blind raiders, effective in large numbers as fodder. A large defence might have 1000-2000ML.

Pros - Uber cheap fodder.

Cons - Weak, weak, weak...did I mention it's weak?

Small Laser

Your second basic fodder. People seem to build larger numbers of these than ML, the reason being they use up a small amount of crystal, allowing for a more effective use of resources rather than just metal for ML. Destroyers have RF v these as well as bombers. A large defence might have 2,000 to 5,000 SL.

Pros - Uber cheap (alternative) fodder (slightly more balanced cost than ML)

Cons - Not much stronger than an ML.

Heavy Laser

4 SL are much more effective for the same cost. However, it's yet more fodder with a slightly larger hull/shield rating and less RF from the bomber. However, I have been informed one HL will destroy one LF in one round. That's a pretty decent reason to build these. However I have yet to see turtles use large amount of these. The reason being, a prohibitive metal cost to take out the large fodder fleets. A large defence might have 100-250 HL.

Pros - Its 'heavier' than the small laser - It destroys LF in one shot. Less RF against it.

Cons - It's expensive for what it does. Your much better off buying 4 Smalls.

Ion Cannon

W00t, this is my favorite. Let's get this straight, people hate these...however, this is where you must make a decision. To have an effective defence, you need not only a range of ALL the defences, but also you need effective fodder. The IC does both of those. For an exorbitant Crystal amount for such a weak weapon, your reward is high shielding. They really do help in larger crashes. I find them innefective until you trying to hold back HOF worthy fleets. At which point in large numbers they can help force a draw. As remember, shielding regenerates each round. A large defence might have 50-500 IC.

Pros - Large shielding.

Cons - Nothing else is good about it. It's expensive, weak and doesn't even have a pretty picture.

DOES NOT DISABLE SHIELDS - IGNORE THE DESCRIPTION.

Gauss Cannon

This is the first of the bigger defences. It's pretty damn effective. It has nothing noteworthy other than the fact it has a good all arond attack/shield/hull. A large defence might have 150+

Pros - Good all rounder.

Cons - Kind of expensive, but not overly so. Useless against fodder heavy fleets on its own.

Plasma Launcher

Whoa, here are the big dudes :0 This can kil anything except a destroyer and a RIP in 1 shot. 8 of these will force a draw against a RIP (yep, thats right - completly on their own) Uber defence basically. A large defence might have anywhere between 50-200 of these.

Pros - Best defence in game, awesome against capital ships. (BS/Bombers/Cruisers/RIPS)

cons - Useless against fodder heavy fleets on its own. Pretty expensive!

Shield domes.

Build these, don't even think about not building them. Whether you are a raider a crasher, a turtle...whatever. The small and large shield domes are priceless. They can force a draw even against the most obscenely large fleets due to the way the combat works in 6 rounds max. All they do is absorb damage, they don't protect your defence or fleet, but act as an extra wave of fodder.

Interestingly enough, due to the bouncing rule, Light fighters cannot penetrate the large dome. Speedsim 999,000 LF vs 1 LSD and you

will see that the result is always a draw

Pros - awesome, awesome awesome.

Cons - They don't fire back?

Inter Planetary Missiles & Anti Ballistic Missiles.

As a turtle, your greatest fear can be being wiped out by Interplanetary missiles. Luckily, Anti ballistic missiles cost less, and it's a 1:1 ratio (1ABM will stop one IPM) so always make sure you are stocked up nice and properly in ABM's.

I would say 20-40 ABM's should be enough to cover any eventuality of IPM attack, given the crazy cost of IPM's, people wil not want to waste 40 IPM's just to hurt your defence.

However, when someone is really intent on giving your defences a good bashing. There is little you can do other than build more and more ABM's. Of course, if you are not online...it can lead to this:

Super Advanced 20% El Jackel [H.C.] -vs- 50cal [Equinox] (TD: ~1.095 Billion) - Bunker Hit

I hope you enjoyed my run-through of defence and turtles. As always, i'm only human. Any mistakes/comments/add-ons feel free to PM me or post here.

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The Punish-ed's Fleet and Defense Statistics (July 31st, 2007)

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Fleet and Defences Fire Power Analysis

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So I was sitting at home; trying desperately to keep the outside out of my flat, and I realised I was MAD. So I decided to do something stupid and came up with an interesting thingmy; and decided to share it with everyone else;

Here is an interesting look at some of the less well documented stats and facto's on the UNITS in Ogame that I've discovered in my fevered brain-using.

I was answering a Q in the H&Q section about Ion Cannons and Heavy Lasers; and I mentioned the MINIMUM firepower required to kill each in one shot; and I noticed Id nevercome across that info before;

So I checked the stats; added up the shields and structures; worked out the 30% explosion chance and figure out some other stuff.

I'm mad; therefore I list some things you may or may not know about UNITS; I havent included Rapidfire cos thats all covered elsewhere in this big old forum - so Ive largely left the RIP out. All info is at EQUAL TECHS!!

Small Cargos;

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 130

(26 SC, 26 LC, 3 LF, 1 HF, 1 CR, 1 BS, 3 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 1 BC)

(2 RL, 2 LL, 1 HL, 1 GC, 1 IC, 1 PT) firing at one SC per turn

Maximum Firepower 1 Unit can sustain in 1 shot: 410

(81 SC, 81 LC, 9 LF, 4 HF, 2 CR, 1 BS, 9 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 1 BC)

(6 RL, 5 LL, 2 HL, 1 GC, 4 IC, 1 PT) firing at one SC per turn

Max Damage Absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 60

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle:460

Average Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 30*

Large Cargos:

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 385

(77 SC, 77 LC, 8 LF, 3 HF, 1 CR, 1 BS, 8 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 1 BC)

(5 RL, 4 LL, 2 HL, 1 GC, 3 IC, 1 PT) firing at one LC per turn

Maximum Firepower 1 Unit can sustain in 1 shot: 1,225

(245 SC / LC, 23 LF, 9 HF, 4 CR, 2 BS, 23 COL, 2 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 2 BC)

(16 RL, 13 LL, 5 HL, 2 GC, 9 IC, 1 PT) firing at one LC per turn

Max Damage absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 150

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 1,350

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 30*

Light Fighters:

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 130

(26 SC, 26 LC, 3 LF, 1 HF, 1 CR, 1 BS, 3 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 1 BC)

(2 RL, 2 LL, 1 HL, 1 GC, 1 IC, 1 PT) firing at one LF per turn

Maximum Firepower 1 Unit can sustain in 1 shot: 410

(81 SC, 81 LC, 9 LF, 3 HF, 2 CR, 1 BS, 9 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 1 BC)

(6 RL, 5 LL, 2 HL, 1 GC, 4 IC, 1 PT) firing at one LF per turn

Max Damage absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 60

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 460

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 300*

Heavy Fighters:

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 325

(65 SC, 65 LC, 7 LF, 3 HF, 1 CR, 1 BS, 7 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 1 BC)

(5 RL, 4 LL, 2 HL, 1 GC, 3 IC, 1 PT) firing at one HF in one turn

Maximum Firepower 1 Unit can sustain in 1 shot: 1025

(205 SC/LC, 21 LF, 7 HF, 3 CRU, 2 BS, 21 COL, 2 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 2 BC)

(13 RL, 11 LL, 5 HL, 1 GC, 7 IC, 1 PT)

Max Damage absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 150

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 1,150

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 900*

Cruisers:

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 950

(190 SC/LC, 19 LF, 7 HF, 3 CR, 1 BS, 19 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 2 BC)

(12 RL, 10 LL, 4 HL, 1 GC, 7 IC, 1 PT) firing at one CR in one turn

Maximum Firepower 1 Unit can sustain in 1 shot: 2,750

(550 SC/LC, 55 LF, 19 HF, 7 CR, 3 BS, 55 COL, 3 Bmb, 2 Dessie, 4 BC)

(35 RL, 28 LL, 11 HL, 3 GC, 19 IC, 1 PT firing at one CR in one turn

Max Damage absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 300

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 1,900

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 2,400*

Battleships

Minimum Firewpower to kill in 1 shot: 2,000

(400 SC/LC, 40 LF, 14 HF, 5 CR, 2 BS, 40 COL, 2 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 3 BC)

(25 RL, 20 LL, 8 HL, 2 GC, 14 IC, 1 PT) firing at one BS in one turn

Maximum firepower 1 unit can sustain in 1 shot: 6,200

(1,240 SC/LC, 124 LF. 42 HF, 16 CR, 7 BS, 124 COL, 7 Bmb, 4 Des, 9 BC)

(78 RL, 62 LL, 25 HL, 6 GC, 42 IC, 3 PT) firing at one BS in one turn

Max Damage absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 1,200

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 7,200

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 6,000*

Colony Ships:

Minimum Firewpower to kill in 1 shot: 1,000

(200 SC/LC, 20 LF, 7 HF, 3 CR, 1 BS, 20 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Dessie, 2 BC)

(13 RL, 10 LL, 4 HL, 1 GC, 7 IC, 1 PT) firing at one COL in one turn

Maximum firepower 1 unit can sustain in 1 shot: 3,100

(620 SC/LC, 62 LF. 21 HF, 8 CR, 4 BS, 62 COL, 4 Bmb, 2 Des, 5 BC)

(39 RL, 31 LL, 13 HL, 3 GC, 21 IC, 2 PT) firing at one COL in one turn

Max Damage absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 600

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 3,600

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 300*

Bombers:

Minimum Firepower to Kill in One Shot: 2,750

(550 SC/LC, 55 LF, 19 HF, 7 CR, 3 BS, 55 COL, 3 Bmb, 2 Dessie, 4 BC)

(35 RL, 28 LL, 11 HL, 3 GC, 19 IC, 1 PT) firing at one Bmb in one turn

Maximum firepower 1 unit can sustain in one shot: 8,000

(1600 SC/LC, 160 LF, 54 HF, 20 CR, 8 BS, 160 COL, 8 Bmb, 4 Des, 12 BC)

(100 RL, 80 LL, 32 HL, 8 GC, 54 IC, 3 PT) firing at one Bmb in one turn

Max Damage absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 3,000

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 10,500

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 6,000*

Destroyers

Minimum Firepower to Kill in One Shot: 3,800

(760 SC/LC, 76 LF, 26 HF, 10 CR, 4 BS, 76 COL, 4 Bmb, 2 Des, 6 BC)

(48 RL, 38 LL, 16 HL, 4 GC, 26 IC, 2 PT) firing at one Des in one turn

Maximum firepower 1 unit can sustain in one shot: 11,500

(2,300 SC/LC, 230 LF, 77 HF, 29 CR, 12 BS, 230 COL, 12 Bmb, 6 Des, 17 BC)

(144 RL, 115 LL, 46 HL, 11 GC, 77 IC, 4 PT) firing at one Des in one turn

Max Damage absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 3,000

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 14,000

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 12,000*

Battle Cruiser

Minimum Firepower to Kill in One Shot: 2,500

(500 SC/LC, 50 LF, 17 HF, 7 CR, 3 BS, 50 COL, 3 Bmb, 2 Des, 4 BC)

(32 RL, 25 LL, 10 HL, 3 GC, 17 IC, 1 PT) firing at one BC in one turn

Maximum firepower 1 unit can sustain in one shot: 7,400

(1,480 SC/LC, 148 LF, 50 HF, 19 CR, 8 BS, 148 COL, 8 Bmb, 4 Des, 11 BC)

(93 RL, 74 LL, 26 HL, 7 GC, 50 IC, 3 PT) firing at one BC in one turn

Max Damage absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 2,400

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 9,400

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 4,200*

Deathstar

Minimum Firepower to Kill in One Shot: 320,000

Maximum firepower 1 unit can sustain in one shot: 950,000

Max Damage absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 300,000

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 1,200,000

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 1,200,000*

DEFENCES

Rocket launcher

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 80

(16 SC/LC, 2 LF, 1 HF, 1 CR, 1 BS, 2 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Des, 1 BC)

Maximum Firepower 1 unit can sustain in 1 shot: 220

(44 SC/LC, 5 LF, 2 HF, 1 CR, 1 BS, 5 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Des, 1 BC)

Max Damage Absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 120

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 320

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 480

Light Laser

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 85

(17 SC/LC, 2 LF, 1 HF, 1 CR, 1 BS, 2 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Des, 1 BC)

Maximum Firepower 1 unit can sustain in 1 shot: 225

(45 SC/LC, 5 LF, 2 HF, 1 CR, 1 BS, 5 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Des, 1 BC)

Max Damage Absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 150

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 350

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 600

Heavy Laser

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 340

(68 SC/LC, 7 LF, 3 HF, 1 CR, 1 BS, 7 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Des, 1 BC)

Maximum Firepower 1 unit can sustain in 1 shot: 900

(180 SC/LC, 18 LF, 6 HF. 3 CR, 1 BS, 18 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Des, 2 BC)

Max Damage Absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 600

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 1,400

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 1,500

Gauss Cannon

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 1,250

(250 SC/LC, 25 LF, 9 HF, 4 CR, 2 BS, 25 COL, 2 Bmb, 1 Des, 2 BC)

Maximum Firepower 1 unit can sustain in 1 shot: 3,700

(740 SC/LC, 74 LF, 25 HF, 10 CR, 4 BS, 74 COL, 4 Bmb, 2 Des, 6 BC)

Max Damage Absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 1,200

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 4,700

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 6,600

Ion Cannon

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 740

(148 SC/LC, 15 LF, 3 HF, 2 CR, 1 BS, 15 COL, 1 Bmb, 1 Des, 2 BC)

Maximum Firepower 1 unit can sustain in 1 shot: 1,300

(260 SC/LC, 26 LF, 9 HF, 4 CR, 2 BS, 26 COL, 2 Bmb, 1 Des, 2 BC)

Max Damage Absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 3,000

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 3,800

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 900

Plasma Turret

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 3,300

(660 SC/LC, 66 LF, 22 HF, 9 CR, 4 BS, 66 COL, 4 Bmb, 2 Des, 5 BC)

Maximum Firepower 1 unit can sustain in 1 shot: 10,300

(2060 SC/LC, 206 LF, 69 HF, 26 CR, 11 BS, 206 COL, 11 Bmb, 6 Des, 15 BC)

Max Damage Absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 1,800

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 11,800

Max Damage Caused by Unit in 6 rounds of combat: 18,000

Small Shield Dome

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 2,600

(520 SC/LC, 52 LF, 18 HF, 7 CR, 3 BS, 52 COL, 3 Bmb, 2 Des, 4 BC)

Maximum Firepower 1 unit can sustain in 1 shot: 4,000

(800 SC/LC, 80 LF, 27 HF, 10 CR, 4 BS, 80 COL, 4 Bmb, 2 Des, 6 BC)

Max Damage Absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 12,000

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 14,000

Large Shield Dome

Cargo ships, Colony Ships and Light Fighters Firepower is subject to 'BOUNCING' and cannot damage the Large Shield Dome.

Minimum Firepower to kill in 1 shot: 13,000

(87 HF, 33 CR, 13 BS, 13 Bmb, 7 Des, 19 BC)

Maximum Firepower 1 unit can sustain in 1 shot: 20,000

(134 HF, 50 CR, 20 BS, 20 Bmb, 10 Des, 29 BC)

Max Damage Absorption by shields in 6 rounds of battle: 60,000

Max Damage Absorption by Unit in 6 rounds of battle: 70,000

And in answer to your obvious question; No I don't; it's my day off.

[size=7]added color to make it easier to read 6/6/08 ~ Son Goku[/size]

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Crystal Clear's Player Types Guide (June 11th, 2008)

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Some credit for this goes to v1k1ng, who first wrote a FAQ on this subject.

Turtle

See also: Turtles & Defense

A turtle is characterised by a very large defence and whose points are primarily from their defence. This means that they can play in a fairly relaxed way, as the large defence makes it unlikely that others will be able to attack for profit.

However, many players dislike turtles since this type of playing can slow down a universe. This means that some players are happy to attack a turtle even if there is no profit.

A turtle’s fleet usually consists of cargos, for shipping res.

Advantages:

- It is ideal for players who are unable to predict their online times.

- Turtles do not have to worry about fleetsaving (however it is unwise to assume your fleet will be safe behind the defence – as I have said many will attack regardless of profit).

- More defence can be built than fleet with the same amount of res.

- Defence has a 70% chance of rebuilding after an attack, a fleet does not.

- Turtles do not have to spend as much time playing as, for example, raiders.

Disadvantages:

- Turtle’s rely solely on mines which are not as efficient as raiding.

- Turtle’s are targeted by players because of their defence.

- Defence cannot be protected on an incoming attack like a fleet can (i.e. you can fleetsave if you see an attack on its way).

- Defence is just on the one planet, a fleet is moveable.

Colony positioning:

Turtle’s generally keep their planets close together as this means faster res transport. However this does make you more vulnerable to IPM attacks, if all your planets are in one system then they will all be in range of another’s IPMs.

Other notes:

If you wish to turtle I would suggest avoiding the ACS universes, since these allow other’s to join their fleets together and make it easier for them to bash your defence.

Never underestimate IPMs. A good turtle will have a decent supply of ABMs in order to protect against this threat.

Make sure you avoid having a lot of res on one planet. Many turtles believe 10mil res on their planet will be ok behind their massive defence. They are wrong

Raiders

Raiders tend to have a small, fast fleet usually consisting of small cargos, cruisers etc. They attack weaker/inactive players regularly resulting in many small profits that add up to large amounts. This type of game play requires time commitment as the only way to make a significant profit is to send out A LOT of attacks.

Raiders tend to develop into fleeters as they grow. Raiding is mainly used by newer players who are trying to climb the ranks quickly.

Advantages:

- Done correctly, a raider can make huge profits very quickly.

- Raiders tend to climb the ranks much faster than miners early on in the game.

Disadvantages:

- It requires a lot of time.

Colony positioning:

Same as a fleeter – keep them spread apart to cover more ground.

Other notes:

If starting a brand new universe, this is the way to go if you want to reach no. 1 – and stay there.

It is wise for a raider to have a high Computer Technology, as this allows for a large number of fleets to be sent out at once.

Miners:

See also: Mines & Nanites

A miner has very high mines and often trade their res with other players. Because a miner doesn’t have a fleet, they can sell their deut to fleeters gaining res and (usually) the fleeter’s protection.

A miner will have small defence to cover overnight production. They also tend to have a set number of cargos on each planet in order to fleetsave their res.

Advantages:

- Mines are solid points that cannot be lost.

- They generally do not need to spend as much time playing.

- By trading regularly with highly ranked players in his area, a miner can acquire NAPs with potential attackers as well as gaining their protection.

Disadvantages:

- Energy is a big problem. Solar plants are expensive and solar sats are targets.

- Miners climb ranks slower than fleeters or raiders.

- Mines get very expensive towards the higher levels.

Colony Positioning:

Close together in order to minimise deut costs and time on transport missions. Picking a quiet galaxy (e.g 5) is advisable as less people are around.

Other notes:

Miners usually build solar plants up to the high twenties, and then switch to solar sats to cover their energy.

Fleeters

See also: Fleet Ratio's

These are the players that have all the HoF and have the most chance of reaching the no.1 spot. They have large fleets consisting of every attacking ship type. Rather than farming small players like raiders, a fleeter makes his profit by crashing other people’s fleets and harvesting the debris field.

Advantages:

- Massive profits to be made.

- Because of HoF and Top Ten hits, fleeters are usually the players that are remembered after leaving.

- Highly ranked fleeters are rarely probed.

- Fleeting is said to be the most exciting way to play the game.

Disadvantages:

- A fleeter MUST be able to predict when he will be online.

- If a fleeter has his fleet crashed, he will lose a lot of points. (I have seen players drop 300 ranks in one go before) For many players, a fleet crash is the end of the game.

Colony Positioning:

The further apart your planets, the more ground you will cover and therefore the more targets available.

Other notes:

Fleeters often start out as miners. It is wise to have a good set of mines behind your fleet, as then in the event of being crashed you will be able to rebuild faster.

Fleeters often need to be good at calculations, as many attacks require precise planning.

Moons:

I just wanted to make a small note about moons. Many believe that only fleeters need to have moons but this really isn’t the case. Since many players are hybrid and have at least a small raiding fleet, moons are essential. The rule here is if you have a fleet – even a small one – you need at least one moon to fleetsave from.

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Safira's Guide To Fleetsaving (June 14th, 2010)

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Fleetsaving (version 2)

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This is a guide for noobs and pros. It's divided into a different ways of FS. Each way starts with the simple stuff for newbies and gets more advanced towards the end.

Old guide: Fleetsaving

Chapters:

Intro

1) Harvesting

2) Deployment

3) Colonizing

4) Expeditions

5) ACS defending

6) Attacking

7) Espionaging

Additional tips

Notes before reading:

- if you just joined a brand new uni (first 7 days after it opens) you should read chapter 5 (8 if non-ACS uni), then 1 and 2

- if uni is a bit older than 7 days, but young enough that there's no moons also read chapters 6 and 7

- the only real FSs that work in longer terms are in chapters 1, 2 and 3

- FS under the chapter 2 is the safest FS

- FSing with missions under chapters 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 are normally never a good idea

- chapter 1 starts with some very basic things - start there if you're new

- if your uni is a non-ACS one, you don't need to read chapter 5

Intro

Did you ever wonder where your resources and ships have disappeared while you were gone, and what the red messages in your PM box mean? It means you have been attacked. Check the report for details to see what you lost and who attacked you. The concept of Ogame is to crash fleets and take resources. Planets can't be conquered, research can't be taken away and mines can't be torn down by other players. Once you have those, they can't be taken away from you. Ships and defence, however, can be destroyed. While destroyed defence doesn't create any debris, 30% (and 40% in uni 40) of the structural integrity (metal + crystal used to build a ship) of ships will end in debris, where attackers can harvest it and use it themselves. They can also take up to 50% of your resources per attack that you leave on the planet. To be a successful player and to be able to progress, you need to learn how to be unprofitable. Being unprofitable is all about not keeping anything worth taking on your planets. Defence does help to prevent you from being crashed, but remember that there will always (almost) be players big enough to get through defence - even if just for the sake of it, as turtles aren't very popular among players. (See this guide to get more info about turtling: Turtles & Defense ) So what's a secret of how not to be attacked? Fleetsaving (FSing). Mastering the art of fleetsaving requires understanding one important concept of Ogame, that while your fleet is moving around the Universe, it cannot be attacked. This is not Star Wars, if your fleet is not sitting on your planet, no-one can hit it. Therefore it is imperative that that you fleetsave (resources and fleet) while you're not online.

Fleetsaving is important to all - fleeters, miners and even turtles. No FS = no Fleet is a golden rule of Ogame and a first step to a successful Ogame career.

1) Harvesting

As a method for fleetsaving, harvesting is particularly easy to master. Simply select your recycler and the rest of your ships, and send them off to a debris field. Make sure to time it to return when you'll be back. Always act conservative, if you believe you will be back in 9 hours then fleetsave for 10. This is to prevent your fleet arriving back on your planet early, which may then leave enough time for an opponent to attack it. It will also make sure you are online before your fleet lands, which may be useful if you need to try and avoid a phalanx hit.

Question: How do I get a recycler?

Answer: First you need to meet some requirements. Go to Shipyard -> click on Recycler -> open Techtree. This will show you the requirements you need to be able to build one.

Question: I can't send a recycler. Why?

Answer: There's two ways to send a recycler.

First, go to the galaxy and find a debris field. Click on the planet next to it and select attack or transport (you'll change that later; this way just allows game to select the coords so you don't type in the wrong ones). It will take you to the fleet screen, where you can choose your ships and load the resources. Click next. On this screen you will have to change the "planet" to "debris" at destination. Simply click on the picture of a DF. Here you can also select the speed of your fleet. If you can't find a good speed, try to find a DF further/closer from you. Click next, load resources and there you go. Make sure the mission is really "harvest" just to be sure.

Second way is to have the co-ords of the DF known already. In this case, go to fleet, select ships; then on next screen select speed, "DF" and co-ords. The rest is the same.

Note: When/if using a commander, you can send a recycler straight from the galaxy view. The appropriate number of recyclers will be chosen and sent to DF at 100% speed. When/if not using a recycler this option is blacked out.

Dangers of this kind of FS:

When FSing with harvest mission from a planet, this is in most cases an extremely unsafe way to save your fleet and resources. Ever heard of phalanx? Read this: Moon, Jumpgate and Phallanx FAQ ver3 In short, phalanx is a building on a moon which allows other players to see fleet movement at planets. Only mission that can't be seen on lanx is recalled deployment, but more about that later.

Wondering how it looks like? Here's a screenshot:

As you can see, the attacker sees what your fleet is made of and exact time of landing. Resources in the fleet can't be seen.

Note for attackers: DFs can't be lanxed and the time you see on the lanx is a cumulative of both times - time a fleet needs to reach the DF + time it needs to return. This is important for attacker as defender can recall his fleet. Fleet will still be seen on lanx, but the return time will be shorter and his fleet could return too early to be caught if launching again.

Question: Are there occasions when I can use this kind of FS?

Answer: Yes, there's two occasions where this FS works fine.

1. At the early start of the uni - when you're not under lanx

Right when a new uni opens, players have no moons. This normally lasts for some weeks and with a good planet placement you can stay out of lanx reach and FS with harvest mission (DFs can't be lanxed, so you're safe as long as the planet you're FSing from isn't under lanx) Probe moons and calculate if you're under lanx (Formula for lanx range can be found here: Formula Thread v3). As soon as you are under lanx (preferably a bit earlier - just to be sure), move on a new planet that is not under lanx or use a different FSing method.

2. When you own a moon

Important thing you also have to know about phalanx is that moons can't be phalanxed. With this info, a harvest mission FS can become very safe when you own a moon. BUT! There's still ways to catch a harvest FS, and they're not too uncommon. As this is a FAQ about FSing, I won't go in details. Let's just say that when your fleet gets big, you will FS in same system to reduce fuel cost. FSing to a DF means that a DF will disappear when your fleet reaches it. If a person studies your FS times, they can calculate about when you will arrive to the DF and watch it dissapear. When that happens, (assuming they know your drive tech and speed of a FS) they can calculate the exact time your fleet returns and catch you. This is called a blind lanx. As the attacker can't check how good he caught you, you can still save yourself if you log in before the attack happens. See how to do that in this guide: So you wanna be a Hero? - from a n00b to a pr0 Even with your fleet on a good FS, it is still important to be online before it returns.

Question: Soooo... is there a way to make it safer?

Answer: Yes, it's called a invisible DF. Invisible DF is every DF that is smaller than 300 units. It will not show in the galaxy view, but it still exists, therefore you can send ships to it. Blind DFs can be made visible in most cases. That's simply done by crashing a probe to a planet with some defence/ships and there you go - a DF. At some occasions, DF can't be made visible though. That's when that kind of DF is at: inactives planet without defence, v-moded player or a floating DF (DF that was there when a planet existed, but the owner deleted that planet - those DFs stay and don't get deleted). So, if you FS to one of that DFs, you're safe from being timed back from a DF.

BUT! There's always a but Here's the dangers of that:

- FSing to v-moded player's DF: They can come online. You have to keep the DF "alive". See the note.

- FSing to a "floating DF": Attacker can check if there's floating DFs in your system. If there's only one and they figure you FS this way, they can colonize a slot and create a visible DF. You also have to keep the DF "alive". See the note.

Also, note! All invisible DFs get cleared at about 1:10 AM ST on Monday. Exception are DFs that have a recycler heading towards the DF before it gets erased.

Question: What can I do if there's no good planets to FS to in my system?

Answer: You can use baits to make a DF watch harder. This means sending at least one additional fleet to the same DF as your main fleet. Fleet must consist of a recycler and the slowest ship you use in a main fleet. That's because your bait have to travel with same speed as your main fleet, which means that if you're using deathstars to slow down your main fleet, you should use one with your bait as well. Make the bait arrive to the DF about 30 + seconds early. This will make the DF watcher think your main fleet harvested it and time the attack to hit your bait.

Question: Great! So this is perfectly safe!?

Answer: Not quite. Remember, your attacker is clever, they can easily check if you're using baits. How? By creating another visible DF (crashing more probes) right after your bait harvests the first one.

Question: But... what if I make the main fleet get to the DF soon enough that attackers second attempt to create a visible DF isn't fast enough?

Answer: That could work, but remember that sometimes the attacker will create the first DF big enough to completely fill your recycler you're using as a bait. To be comepletely safe, use about 10 recycles in your bait and use more baits (three or even more - depends on how hunted you are). Hide your fleet in a random position between baits to make the attacker have to guess where your fleet is.

Or even better, save yourself from these problems and fleetsave with colonisation mission.

Moon destruction missions (MD missions)

Right, in case you've no idea what that is about: a deathstar is the only ship that can destroy moons. In later stages when uni gets old (especially speed unis), fleets get big and deatstars relatively cheap. Players can attempt to destroy your moon in order to be able to see your fleet on the lanx. If a moon is destroyed, all fleets returning to the moon will go to the planet instead. They then become visible when phalanxing the planet in question. In this case it does not matter to what kind of DF you FS. Once a moon is destroyed, it doesn't matter anymore.

Question: What can I do about that?

Answer: Well, you can never be 100% safe. If a player decides to crash you, they can do it. What helps is having all planets mooned and FS from a different one every day. This way the attackers will not know where your fleet is and will have to destroy all of your moons to find your fleet. That requires a lot of deathstars and more, well organised attackers. Another plus is to have a defense on every moon. It will make the attackers think twice if it's worth it.

To conclude, the best way to FS with harvest mission is:
- to FS with harvest mission from a moon to a 35+ days inactive player without defence and with bought DM
- to have all planet mooned
- to have defence on all moons
- to FS from a different moon every day
- to split your fleet

2) Deployment

If you have more than one planet, it is possible to fleetsave by deploying your ships and resources to your other planet. This is especially useful (and safe) when you start a new account as you won't yet have the techs for recyclers yet. Remember to use this tactic means that you must choose the time you're not going to be online carefully, as it will only be ONE WAY, unless you recall it. For example, if you are going to be online in 9 hours time, pick the 10 hour flightime, which will hopefully prevent your fleet being destroyed between its landing and you logging on.

Dangers:

Well, this kind of FS is not completely invisible to the phalanx. Deploment mission can always be seen on the planet the deployment it heading to. However, deployments can never be seen on the planet they were sent from. So, until your fleet is heading towards another one of your planets, the attacker will still see it coming. Important thing to remember is that once you recall your deployment it can't be seen on lanx. It dissapears from the lanx completely.

A screenshot from the deployment mission:

A quite big disadvantage of deployment FSs is deut cost. Unless you place 2 colonies in the same system, this is an expensive way to fleetsave. With a highly recommended planet placement across galaxies it costs you a lot. If you let a deployment land, it will return 50% of the deut spent for a flight though. Due to the deut cost, many players place 2 colonies in same system and the rest further away.

Question: I've heard about recalled deployment FS to be the safest. How does that work?

Answer: Once all of your planets are under lanx, this is the safest way to FS without moons. It's even safer if you have moons. There's two ways to FS this way.

1. Make a FS arrive a bit later then you're planning to log in.

It's important that you're logged in before your fleet lands! Attacker will still see your fleet heading towards a planet. Only recalled deployments aren't seen on lanx. They might try to lanx you hoping you won't be online when your fleet lands. If you're online, you can save your fleed by recalling it in case you see you're under attack. Note: PM the attacker first asking to recall so you won't have to wait for your recalled deployment. Also, see the next question for more details.

2. Make a 10% FS and recall it in the middle of the time you want it to return.

A very bad side of this FS is that you need to be online in the middle of the FS. Not really a good thing when that's 3 am at the middle of the night, right? Also, you need to calculate when you need to recall your fleet. Ogame already calculates the exact time your fleet will return in case you recall, but you need to know when to log in to recall. Note that when you recall your fleet, it will take the same time to return as it needed to arrive to the point when you recalled it. So, if you need your fleet back in 10 hours, you need to log in after 5 hours you started the FS. You need to send your fleet at 10% to reduce the deut cost - the time fleet needs to arrive to the chosen destination is not important as you'll recall it in any case.

Note: Especialy when having a big fleet, never recall your fleet immediately after the login and then logout and do nothing else. Attacker will easily blind lanx you by lanxing the target planet all the time from when you log in on. until you recall your fleet.

Question: So I'm safe when I recall my fleet?

Answer: Sadly, you're not 100% safe. For first FS, there's a strategy called "forced recalled deployment blind lanx" and here's how it works: Attacker lanxes your deployment and launches fleet on 100% to arrive seconds after yours. As soon as you log in, he starts lanxing your planet every 2-3 seconds. You will probably PM him asking to recall as you're on, but when you'll realise they won't recall it, you'll recall your deployment. Attacker will see that your fleet has dissapeared from lanx and note down the exact time when you recalled. Now he can calculate the return time of your recalled deployment.

Instead of recalling, try to arrange a ninja instead, if possible (especially in acs unis). Also, note that this is quite expensive for the attacker as every lanx report costs 5.000 units of deuterium and a lot of lanxing is needed, so you're safe if you only have a small fleet that would not be worth it.

With a second FS, attacker can't force you to recall, as you recall in any case. It is still not 100% safe though. If you regularly FS in same pattern, attacker can soon see about when you normally recall your fleet and lanx a lot at the predicted time of your recall. It's harder to catch than the first one though, as it normally takes more deut to lanx you.

Question: But what about FSing to a moon?

Answer: With a moon, everything gets easier. Deployment FS with only one moon is rational when you have two planets in same system and one of them mooned. You need to launch your fleet from planet and make it arrive to the moon. This will be completely invisible to lanx, even if a moon is destroyed.

Problem with this kind of FS is that FSing from moon to planet isn't as safe - that's due to the strategy above. Attacking works the same way. To avoid that you need to deploy your fleet quickly back to the planet and then FS to moon. This will cost you a lot more deut if you have a decent fleet.

Question: Ok, now let's get 2 moons! How about now?

Answer: Now that's known to be the safest FS you can make. Again, having both moons in a same system will save you deut if you're planning to use this kind of deployment.

Detailed explanation of why this FS is so good:

As moons can't be lanxed, FSing with deployment between 2 moons is completely invisible to the lanx. Even more than that! It is completely invisible even if you have both of your moons crashed! Let's look at the quote from the Phalanx guide again: If a moon is destroyed, all fleets returning to the moon will go to the planet instead. And even more important: All foreign fleets sent to the moon will be automatically recalled at the same moment when the moon explodes. Let's remember the line about the deployment: Recalled deployments can't be seen on lanx.

Now let's imagine someone would like to crash our fleet which we FS with deployment between moons. As moons can't be lanx, the attacker will try to destroy your moons in order to see your fleet. But here's a bad news for the attacker: even with both moons gone, they won't be able to see your fleet. Lets see how:

Imagine you FS from moon A to moon B.

1. Attacker destroys moon A: He will not be able to see anything as deployment can only be seen on the planet it's heading to (unless recalled).

2. Attacker destroys moon A and then moon B: When moon B is destroyed, your deployment will continue heading towards the destroyed moon and will retun normally. It will still be invisible to the lanx.

3. Attacker destroys moon B: As above, just that recalled deployment will return to the moon. It makes no difference as recalled deployments can't be seen on lanx.

4. Attacker destroys moon B and then moon A: As above, recalled deployments are always invisible.

Question: So is this the uncrashable way to FS?

Answer: Not quite. A very determined and skilled attacker will always find a way to catch you.

1. They can destroy both your moons, forcing you to FS with deployment between planets and then make a forced recalled deployment blind lanx. This kind of FS, however, forces attackers to spend a lot of deut and even more time and effort, so it's not likely to happen.

2. It is also possible to catch this FS with destroying one moon (moon B if I take the case above). To do this, you need to know the exact time of when the FS was launched, time of moon destruction and defenders drives. Some player's last action before they log off is fleetsaving. If you're sure this is the case, you can check the activity at the planet defender FSed from. From this you can calculate the exact time a fleet was launched. When a moon is destroyed, you can calculate at what time the fleet will return back to the other moon and try to blind lanx it. Note that it's very liekey you will miss the target due to a hard way to tell when a fleet was launched.

To avoid being crashed this way, always make some activity a minute or two after fleetsaving.

To conclude, best way to FS with deployment mission is:
- deploying between planets and recall if being under attack
- deploying between moons

3) Colonizing

Colonisation mission is normally used when colonizing a new planet. However, when you have all your planet slots full, it can also be used as a pretty good fleetsaving method.

In order to FS with colonisation mission, you need to have a colony ship. Choose fleet, select desired time and coords and fill the fleet with resources. You will get this warning:

Click yes and the fleet will be on the FS. Once your fleet reaches the destination, you will recieve this message:

Quote The fleet has arrived at the assigned coordinates. [X:XXX:X], and discovers that the planet is qualified to be colonized. Shortly after starting to develop the planet, colonists realise that astrophysics has not been studied sufficiently to colonize this new planet.

Your colony ship will not be destroyed during the procedure and there will be no sign that you tried to colonize a slot. No resources will be lost. Your fleet will return normally.

Question: But, is it phalanxable?

Answer: Yes, the planet it was sent from can be lanxed, thus making this kind of FS only useful when you're not under lanx.

Screenshot from lanx:

Question: How is this better than a harvest FS?

Colonisation FS is very similar to a harvest FS, in both cases only a planet these missions were sent from can be lanxed. Colonisation has one big advantage though. No-one will see you colonizing and there will be no disappearing DFs, therefore you can't be timed back in a blind lanx. Also, you normally don't have an inactive player without defence and with bought DM in every system, but there's empty slots in nearly all systems, which makes it even harder to tell where you FS from if you have all planets mooned and FS randomly from all.

Note: The dangers of this FS are similar to those when harvesting. Please see chapter 3 for that.

To conclude, the best way to FS with a colonization mission is:
- to have all planet mooned
- to have defence on all moons
- to FS from a different moon every day
- to split your fleet

- advantage from harvesting is that you don't have to look for good DFs

4) Expeditions

Expedition is a special mission which lets you explore the outer space. You can read about it here: FAQ about Expeditions and Merchants You need to research astro technology in order to be able to make expeditions.

As you can only get lanxed on the planet the expedition FS was launched from, some players can be tempted to FS with this mission, especially because it can bring you some profit while you're gone. But be careful! The chances of your fleet getting delayed or coming home early are big and you can also meet aliens, pirates or have your fleet lost. These are all reasons that this kind of FS isn't optimal, even when if have a moon and FS from it.

Screenshot from expedition FS:

To conclude:

Never send your entire fleet to expedition with intention to save it.

5) ACS defend

ACS defend is a mission that is only enabled in some unis. It allows you to combine fleets with your allies and attack/defend together. Read about it here: ACS~{Alliance Combat System} Tutorial

ACS defend can be used as a FS as well. It's not particularity useful once you have recyclers or colony ships, but can serve you well early in the uni when there's no moons or around. For the first 7 days there's no inactives to attack via FS, so ACS defend mission can be a solution. In order to be able to do an ACS defend FS, you need to be buddies with a player you'll be FSing to or be in the same alliance. Select all ships and set hold time to 0 This is very important as hold time longer than 0 will make your fleet sit at your friends planet, ready to be crashed by anyone. When selecting a 0 hour hold time, fleet will return instantly. Select a desired speed and appropriate coordinates. Don't forget to save your resources with fleet. You will see option ACS defend at the fleet launch screen - choose it and you're good to go.

Question: Is it lanxable?

Answer: Yes, it can be seen on lanx at both planets.

Screenshot from lanx from the planet this FS was sent from:

Screenshot from lanx from the planet this FS was sent to:

Disadvantage of this FS:

1. You can't ACS defend players in noob protection (See how noob protection works here: Formula Thread v3).

2. It's lanxable when sent from a planet and to a planet.

Question: How about ACS defend from a moon to a moon?

Answer: This works too, but it normally costs you more deut than a colonization or harvest FS, so it just doesn't make much sense FSing this way.

To conclude:
Other than very early when a universe opens, it's just better to use other kind of FSs.

6) Attacking

Fairly self-explanatory this one. Find an inactive that your fleet can hit profitably, and send your ships at the speed needed. This way, you can get some resources while you're gone. If you time your recyclers to reach the debris field after your fleet hits you can also get that back, reducing losses. The best tactic to use is to send your attacking fleet off on it's own, then send your recs with all your other ships (cargoes/probes etc) along with your res. This way, even if anything does go wrong with the attack your res is still safe. Make sure you ONLY use this method on inactives, an active player would have plenty of time to 'ninja' (bring a larger fleet to their planet to destroy your attacking fleet) your fleet, whereas the chances of an inactive player ninja-ing you are remote. The danger may occur if the player logs in, but that doesn't happen often.

This kind of FS is only useful from 7 days after a new uni opens to the time when your or attacked planet are under lanx. Why? Because the fleet can easily be spotted via lanx. You can be lanxed on the planet you launched and attack from and also on the planet you're attacking thus doubling the chances to get lanxed.

Screenshots of attacking mission:

1. Lanxing your planet:

2. Lanxing your fleet at the planet you're attacking.

Note to attackers: Similar to lanxing a harvest mission, when lanxing the planet a fleet was launched from, the time you see is a time a fleet needs in both ways: time it needs to arrive to a planet + time it needs to return. You can see this in a report above.

This method is sometimes used by "uber turtles" who keep some fleet behing a huge defence thus making it unprofitable to hit. As said at the start of this guide, this isn't 100% safe as all defences can be crashed.

FSing this way when under one or more lanxes can be even more dangerous than having your fleet sitting!

Question: What about attacking from a moon?

Answer: As it's lanxable on the planet you're attacking, not even a moon will make it safer.

Question: What about attacking an inactive moon from your moon?

Answer: When your fleet arrives to the target moon, activity will be created, meaning you can get timed back. FS can't be lanxed, but the defender can come online any time or get deleted, so it's better to use a different kind of FS.

Note: If you're using this method on an inactive player and they get deleted, your fleet will return instantly when a planet is deleted! Time of deletion is 7 days after the acc was set to deletion at 1:10 am server time, or 35 days inactive without bought dark matter.

To conclude:
Unless none of the planets, the one you're hitting and the one you're launching from, are under lanx, this is an extremely bad way to FS.

7) Espionaging

Just like the attacking method, except that you include a probe and select the mission 'espionage'.

This is also a very bad way to FS, and here's some reasons why:

1. If there's any ships on the defenders planet, even solar sats, a battle may occur and you can lose the entire fleet.

2. Bad idea to do it on an active player - it's a recipe for an easy ninja.

3. It's lanxable at both planets.

The only advantage comparing to FSing with an attack is that if there's inactive turtles with 0 ships (not even solar sats), you're better off by using espionage than attack. This is hardly an advantage as there's too much to go wrong and there's just too many other, better ways to FS.

Screenshot from lanx at your own planet:

Screenshot from lanx at the planet you're spying:

Moon doesn't help much in this case either.

Note: If you're using this method on an inactive player and they get deleted, your fleet will return instantly when a planet is deleted! Time of deletion is 7 days after the acc was set to deletion at 1:10 am server time, or 35 days inactive without bought dark matter.

To conclude:
This kind of FS is useless in most cases. Only way you can use it is when none of the planets are under lanx, but the inactive has too much defence to win the battle and 0 ships at the planet.

Additional tips

There are a few general game points that you may/should remember whilst fleetsaving:

1) Death Stars are good for fleetsaving, as they travel very slowly and use very little deut. This slows down the overall speed of your fleet, allowing you to save for extremely long times whilst using very little fuel. This can be exceptionally handy if fleetsaving by deploying between 2 colonies in the same system, for moon to debris field harvesting fleetsaves or colonization FSs.

2) You may see that some bigger players do not fleetsave. This is because their fleets and defences are so big, no-one is able to take them out without unprofitable losses. Even in this case, you can get crashed (see an example: Top 01 [TD: 14.033.251.000] JimmyN [INC] vs Lord42 [TeamEvil] Part 1 of 3 - The Carnage) However, it is only when exceptionally large fleets are owned that players dare to do this, fleetsaving is a must for most gamers. Players that hide behind huge defences are known ingame as 'turtles', and hunting turtles has become a fairly popular sport and turtling usually actively discouraged by the OGaming community.

3) Some very good players may crash fleets by learning their online times and therefore knowing when you fleetsave, allowing them to time their fleets close even without a phlanx. To avoid this, fleetsave to different debris fields, at different times, or by splitting your fleet up for the maximum safety margin.

4) It is always worth leaving a few recyclers and transports on your planets 'just in case'. You never know what may happen in OGame, and should the worse come to the worse, you will have options available to res-save or, should the unthinkable happen, attempt to collect the debris of your fleet before your sly attacker.

5) Always remember that a bad FS can be as lethal as not FSing at all.

Ultimately, just remember that players will always attack you to make a profit. If you leave resources or ships lying about, they'll get destroyed, defence or not, if the attacker can use your hard-earned res for something else. So, make yourself unprofitable by fleet-saving and res-saving, and you'll progress a lot quicker. If your alliance is at war then the rules are slightly different, as players will attack you just for the hell of it, but if you've fleetsaved you've got nothing to worry about.

Final conclusion:

1) The safest way to fleetsave is between moons via a deploy mission.
2) If you don't have a moon, use the recalled deploy method.
3) ALWAYS time your fleet to land AFTER you expect to be online. You never know when you'll miss the bus or your alarm clock will fail.
4) Fleetsave resources

Based on this guide: Fleetsaving - thanks to all who put it together.
Also, thanks to Grade Zero and Son Goku for help with typos, grammar, screenshots and fixes; thanks also to Francolino and LionHTB.

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Mines and Nanites (by TragicEscape) (March 12th, 2006)

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Mines & Nanites

Mine & Nanite levels

I think this is probably the most asked question in the H&Q...'I have this level of building XXX, what should I build next?'

Answering that question in 'general' terms is going to be hard, but I shall attempt!

Mines are your basic income, and they are just as important for a newbie as they are for a top player. They represent your basic income, whether your raiding, sleeping, offline or online. They give you a constant stream of income.

It is important to have strong levelled mines, regardless of whether you are a raider, aA turtle, or whatever.

Why is it so important?

This is obvious, if your fleet gets wiped out, your defences get wiped out, your farms dry up, you have connection problems...whatever, there are loads of reasons you may not be able to get extra income. But luckily, your mines are still churning out resources for you to use, whatever you may be doing.

Strong mines will help you recover from whatever your ailment was, alot quicker.

So, whats a good mine level?

Well, this is a hard one, as everyone has different levels, and colony status. I always find that my Home planet has at least 1 extra mine level and one extra solar/fusion plant level than my colo's. I think this is more likely because I tend to ship alot of res back to my HP for research (like alot of people do) but end up upgrading mines.

I think the following guide is to be taken not as literally as I put it, you should take it at your own pace, adjusting for your own style of play.

All these levels can be +/- 1 according to you! I'm modelling these of other players, and my own meandering experience.

You should of course, try to keep your production factor at 1. remember, Deuter mines suck up waaay more energy than crystal or metal, so if I ever find myself with negative energy, my deut mines are the first to drop to 90% production.

By the time you exit noob protection (5,000 points) You should aim to have at least :

Metal mine - 15

Crystal mine - 13

Deut mine - 10

By the time you hit 10,000 points you should aim to have 6 or 7 colonies with

Metal mine - 19

Crystal mine - 17

Deut mine - 12

By the time you hit 25,000 points you should aim to have 8 colonies with

Metal mine - 22+

Crystal mine - 20+

Deut mine - 18+

After 25,000 points you should know whats best for you.

I consider those mine levels a pretty solid 'base' to build a fleet or defence from. You should be churning out enough resources to built a basic fleet.

So....I have X points, should I get a Nanite?

Nanites are a fairly big investment, especially for someone under 30k points, so you should think carefully about whether to invest in them. Although I think it's never to soon to get nanites, my advice would be to go for it ASAP. My reasoning being is that I like 'safe' points, nanites give you a considerable amont on their own. And they are an uber investment.

There are several 'tests' to know whether you are ready for Nanites:

- Can you build it? (as in, do you have the techs?) I know this sounds silly, but you might not ready for it unless you have comp tech 10. My reasoning being, Raiders have the most need for a nanite factory, and unless you are filling up those fleetslots with raids daily, you won't be bringing back enough bacon to warrant a nanite.

- Is your shipyard queue ALWAYS more than 48 hours? If so, you are probably in need of a nanite!

- Can you accumulate the resources without any trouble? If so, you are probably ready!

Being able to answer yes to two of those questions will mean your ready for nanite.

...but, why does it matter if i'm ready for it or not?

It doesn't specifically matter. However, you if you can't answer yes to two of those questions, my bet is that you will have considerable trouble gathering the res. necessary for a nanite.

'Most' people tend to get their first nanite in the 25k -> 40k points range.

Nanite level 2 around the 70k range.

Nanite level 3 around 100->150k range.

This however, of course, has exceptions just like everything in Ogame. Only yesterday I remember someone telling me that they don't have a nanite at 90k points. I think this is probably a bit silly....but to each his own.

This guide is intended mainly for beginners. Any comments appreciated.

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How To Become The Best...In Three Weeks! (by alveress) (December 25th, 2006)

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Reaching the Top in Three weeks, New uni guide

Reaching the Top as a Miner in less than 3 weeks

Guide Created by CYMRU AM BYTH
Edited and Advised by alveress

Early Game Tips:

Once Small Cargos (SC) are created, attack as much as possible. You should use this early game guide created by DanCake, located here

Remember that computer tech is vital to you, so focus on this tech. The basic philosophy behind this is simple, the more computer tech the more attacks you can make in one day.

Once you have sc and others do too, it can be smart to build 1-2 Rocket Launchers (RL) to keep your planet safe from enemy SC.

Seventh day of the universe:

After 7 days from the start of the universe ( at zero server time ), inactive (i) players will begin to appear. You NEED to get these first! when the points update on the 7th day, always check for new inactives, and send out 1-2 probes to each new inactive. Once information is gathered, pick your targets and send out as many waves as possible.

To stay on top of the inactives, and to keep a record of around 40 systems near your main ( and later on colonies ). Thats 20 systems downwards and 20 systems upwards ( or more )

To keep record ( if you have commander ) then simply spy on all of the inactives. On the galaxy screen, in the actions column there will be an " I " icon ( which means information on that planet via Espionage report ) When new inactives appear, the ones that do not have the " I " are the new inactives, now you know what to do! Probe and attack! If you do not have commander then write all of the inactive names in note pad or something similar.

New inactives will appear each day from now on, at every server update, so be sure to be online to send out attacks. On average you will find inactives with zero to 200k worth of resources just waiting for you.

~12 days ( or sooner ) from the start of the universe:

You should be able to construct colony ships, by now

Construct three colony ships and place them in your home solar system. Only construct solar plants, crystal mines, and deuterium mines. ( Remember! the field size does not matter at all! )

Use the extra crystal + deut. income into research ( most important is impulse 5, which makes small cargos upgraded to a faster engine ) also use the extra crystal income to cope with the need of small cargo ships and for more colony ships. "REMINDER: These colonies will be deleted in the future"

Try to place two colonies per galaxy, these colonies hopefully will have high fields ( If not, don't worry about it now, delete them and try again later ) Another tip is place them around systems 120-130 and 370-380 of each galaxy. This will be helpful later for moons. Also, before you place the colony, investigate to see if there are a lot of people in noob protection ( usually means a lot of inactives will come soon )

~14 days and onward:

You now should have 8 planets

Make sure you build around 10-20 small cargos on each colony ( and it is advised in the future to have 50-100 sc on each planet ) Mines should be upgraded above all else, even research, and try to get good fields on all of the planets in other systems.

Now that you are farming 400 systems or so maximum, what to do with the crazy intake of resources? Just build more, and more and more mines, and cargos if needed, there will become a time when your income will be crazy and you will wish to construct a fleet.

You will have a choice to keep mining or construct a fleet shortly. By this time i was a little bored of mining so i wanted to wreck havoc across the uni! the choice is yours but it is more fun and better for your alliance if you construct a large fleet; however, it can take up a lot of time and you have to be careful and also remember to keep 1-2 colony slot open for raiding colonies

General tips for the early miner:

Some inactives will have set their account to delete before you can get to them if you don't have impulse 5. Upgrading your impulse engine beyond impulse 5 will help in this field.

You have to remember that because of your sacrifice of points ( into SC, and colonies ) you will not be in the top 20 in the beginning. It will take around 3 weeks to get enough income to take over the top ranks. You just have to be patient and it will all work out.

Proof this strategy works:

All screen shots were taken from ostat.org, and ogame.org

Universe 27 starts on date: December 6th, 2006

Rank 42 on date: December 16th, 2006

Rank 20 on date: December 21, 2006

Rank 1 on date: December 24th, 2006

Disclaimer:

This strategy does not take a lot of time to maintain.

If you don't agree with something or i left something out then please PM CYMRU AM BYTH

Or if you didn't understand something then please feel free to PM me, and I will help you.

I am also on IRC in channel #Evil27

Thanks hope this helped some of you!

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Moon, Jumpgate, and Phalanx FAQ (by LeftNut, with many edits by OGame Staff members) (October 20th, 2007)

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This is an updated version of the FAQ previously updated by Zulu, including more info than before aswell as updating some parts that have changed since the last update. This FAQ covers what to do before you get a moon, how to get a moon, and what you can do with your moon. Now to the FAQ:)

Thinking of getting a moon?

1. First Steps

In some situations you may need to contact a Go for permission first before initiating the "Moon shot" or "Moonchance". The basic rule of thumb is if the higher ranked player ends up with any profit it'll be a push and banable. To open a ticket for a moonshot click here http://support.ogame.org/. It will be helpful to the GO if you know the relative time and cords of the planets involved when opening the ticket.

See detailed explanation of all possible moonshot scenarios and clarification on when to open a ticket here: Moonshots and pushing

2. After permission is gained

You will need to think about where you will be having your moon, the size that you would like your moon, and the amount of res that you are prepared to use to get your moon.

If you've been crashed and have a moon smaller than 8k already over the planet you would like to have a larger and as such more useful and less likely to be destroyed moon instead you can delete your moon as you would a colony and try for a larger one. I highly suggest if it is a planned moonshot to not scrimp on the fleet for it as later on you'll likely regret not spending that extra 1kk res that is now so easy for you to get and end up losing a moon with millions of res invested into it instead.

The size of a moon can be determined by the amount of res that you are prepared to spend to get the moon. Each moonchance is identifiable by a percentage factor. Each percent chance of getting a moon requires 100,000 units of debris to be created around your planet. This is done by either getting someone to crash a weaker fleet into your defense, or, by getting a stronger fleet to crash your fleet that sits on the planet surface. Each 100,000 units of debris will give a 1% chance of a moon appearing, with the maximum chance being at 20% (a meager 2million of debris).

3. Making A Moon

Below I have included a list of percentage moon chances (5, 10, 15 and 20) and the number and type of each ship that you can use to create it. Note that while the list is accurate it does not list the losses. Each listing creates the minimum loss to be able to create the necessary DF, however some of the listings, such as the Cruisers will cause you more losses in lost Deuterium used to build the ships, that is not put into the DF. Also, note that ships have different metal : crystal ratio, therefore a moonshot made using Cargos will cost you more than a moonshot made using Light Fighters. The cheapest moonshot fleets are considered to be those made of Light Fighters or Battleships due to their high metal : crystal ratio.

5% Chance

417 Small Cargo Ships

139 Large Cargo Ships

417 Light Fighters

167 Heavy Fighters

62 Cruisers

28 Battle Ships

56 Colony Ships

105 Recyclers

1667 Espionage Probes

23 Bombers

16 Destroyers

10% Chance

884 Small Cargo Ships

278 Large Cargo Ships

834 Light Fighters

334 Heavy Fighters

124 Cruisers

56 Battle Ships

112 Colony Ships

209 Recyclers

3334 Espionage Probes

45 Bombers

31 Destroyers

15% Chance

1250 Small Cargo Ships

417 Large Cargo Ships

1250 Light Fighters

500 Heavy Fighters

186 Cruisers

84 Battle Ships

167 Colony Ships

313 Recyclers

5000 Espionage Probes

67 Bombers

46 Destroyers

20% Chance

1667 Small Cargo Ships

566 Large Cargo Ships

1667 Light Fighters

667 Heavy Fighters

247 Cruisers

112 Battle Ships

223 Colony Ships

417 Recyclers

6667 Espionage Probes

89 Bombers

3334 Solar satellites

61 Destroyers

1 Death Star

When you are successful you will receive a note at the end of the CR that will read something along the lines of...

Quote The enormous amounts of drifting metal and crystal particles attract each other and slowly form a lunar satellite in the orbit of the planet.

When a moon is created the DF still exists, meaning that it can be harvested.

Moonchance Probabilities

There are often questions about the chances of getting a moon with multiple attempts. The following is the clearest explanation that I have ever come across regarding the matter.

The "20% moonshot" events are independent, and any one of them has a 20% chance of creating a moon, independently of previous attempts. If you want to work out the chances of getting at least 1 moon in a number of attempts, you can do so as follows...

The chance of a moon *not* occurring is 80% or 0.8. (Probability of No Moon = P)

The only way that a moon will *not* occur in 2 attempts is if the first attempt does not create a moon AND the second chance does not create a moon.

P(NO MOON) * P(NO MOON)

0.8 x 0.8 = 0.64

So you can say using 2 attempts, there is a 64% chance of no moon, or a 36% chance of getting one by the end of the 2nd attempt.

For 3 attempts...

P(NO MOON) * P(NO MOON) * P(NO MOON)

0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8 = 0.512

Chance of no moon after 3 attempts is ~ 51%, chance of at least one moon by the end of 4 attempts is therefore ~49%.

The following table lists the chances of getting at least one moon by the end of so many attempts

1 attempt 20%

2 attempts 36%

3 attempts 49%

4 attempts 59%

5 attempts 67%

6 attempts 74%

7 attempts 79%

8 attempts 83%

9 attempts 87%

(100 attempts 99.999999979629640236655139137316%)

Taken from Moon Chances

Now I Own A Moon, What's Next?

1. Moon Size and Fields

Firstly, there is no field limit on a moon.

Moon sizes are not completely random. They are indeed affected by the percentage. The higher the percentage, the higher the chances are of getting a big moon. It's possible to get a 4k moon on 19% or an 8k moon on 1%, but it's very very unlikely. The exception is a successful 20% chance, this will ALWAYS give a moon of at least 8000km.

Moons start with one free field, this means that you need to build a Lunar Base first, when this is complete you will be given another 3 fields (using 1/4). If you want to expand a decent amount then you need to reserve one of these fields for the next Lunar Base, leaving 2 spare fields.

2. What Can I Build On A Moon?

Lunar Base's are the building that make the moon 'work', explained above.

Robotics Factory, this will shorten the time taken to build the buildings and any defense.

Shipyard, to build defense on moons. Note that IPMs can be fired at moons. ABMs present on the planet will intercept any IPMs fired at the moon.

Resource storage, pretty pointless to build this as it has no use.

Alliance Depot, only if ACS is in your Uni.

Phalanx, the main reason to have a moon. A device that will let you scan the surrounding planets for fleet activity that it arriving or departing at the planet. Will provide you with fleet consistency (with an exception in redesign - see below), time of arrival and place of origin.

Jump gates, provide you with a method of being able to move your fleet vast distances at no cost. Needs to be used in conjunction with at least one other jump gate owned by you.

3. What Order Do I Build Things?

This all depends on personal taste. Some people advocate that you should build only Lunar Bases and Robotics Factories until you reach lvl10 on both, and then build a Phalanx to lvl 6 or more, and a Jump gate.

If you are an active crasher, or aspire to being one, then you should be thinking of getting the Phalanx up and running asap. If you are a more cautious player then you may think about getting some defense on the moon. Typically most gamers see defense on a moon as pointless, as it is ever so easy to fleetsave/res save with a moon, due to it not being able to be scanned by another moons Phalanx. Defense can be useful to prevent your moon being destroyed in a Moon Destruction mission, which are especially common in speed unis. In this case you should have at least enough defence to force a draw with one RIP.

Below you will see two short build orders, these are by no means a definitive answer. If you are still unsure about what to build after reading this then politely ask someone near you who has a moon for their advice too.

Defensive Build

Empty Moon(0/1 fields used)

Lunar Base level 1 (1/4 fields used)

Robotics Factory level 1 (2/4 fields used)

Robotics Factory level 2 (3/4 fields used)

Lunar Base level 2 (4/7 fields used)

Robotics Factory level 3 (5/7 fields used)

Robotics Factory level 4 (6/7 fields used)

Lunar Base level 3 (7/10 fields used)

Shipyard level 1 (8/10 fields used)

Shipyard level 2 (9/10 fields used)

Lunar Base level 4 (10/13 fields used)

Shipyard level 3 (11/13 fields used)

Shipyard level 4 (12/13 fields used)

Using a moon in a defensive capability includes wanting to fleetsave from it and having some defense to protect any res on the planet and the ships a little if you do get caught out.

Offensive Build

Empty Moon(0/1 fields used)

Lunar Base level 1 (1/4 fields used)

Robotics Factory level 1 (2/4 fields used)

Phalanx level 1 (3/4 fields used)

Lunar Base level 2 (4/7 fields used)

Robotics Factory level 2 (5/7 fields used)

Phalanx level 2 (6/7 fields used)

Lunar Base level 3 (7/10 fields used)

Robotics Factory level 3 (8/10 fields used)

Phalanx level 3 (9/10 fields used)

Lunar Base level 4 (10/13 fields used)

Robotics Factory level 4 (11/13 fields used)

Phalanx level 4 (12/13 fields used)

Nuts Build:

This is how I build my moons up after already having one built up.

Empty Moon(0/1 fields used)

Lunar Base level 1 (1/4 fields used)

Robotics Factory level 1 (2/4 fields used)

Robotics Factory level 2 (3/4 fields used)

Lunar Base level 2 (4/7 fields used)

Robotics Factory Level 3 (5/7 fields used)

Robotics Factory Level 4 (6/7 fields used)

Lunar Base level 3 (7/10 fields used)

Robotics Factory Level 5 (8/10 fields used)

Robotics Factory Level 6 (9/10 fields used)

Lunar Base level 4 (10/13 fields used)

Robotics Factory Level 7 (11/13 fields used)

Robotics Factory Level 8 (12/13 fields used)

Lunar Base level 5 (13/16 fields used)

Robotics Factory Level 9 (14/16 fields used)

Robotics Factory Level 10 (15/16 fields used)

Lunar Base level 6 (16/19 fields used)

Jumpgate level 1 (17/19 fields used)

Phalanx level 1 (18/19 fields used)

Lunar Base level 7 (19/22 fields used)

Phalanx level 3 (20/22 fields used)

Phalanx level 4 (21/22 fields used)

Lunar Base level 8 (22/25 fields used)

Phalanx level 5 (23/25 fields used)

Phalanx level 6 (24/25 fields used)

Phalanx level 7 (25/25 fields used)

Decon Robotics level 10 (24/25 fields used)

Phalanx level 8 (25/25 fields used)

Decon Robotics level 9 (24/25 fields used)

Shipyard level 1 (25/25 fields used)

Decon Robotics level 8 (24/25 fields used)

Shipyard level 2 (25/25 fields used)

From here you get the idea decon Robotics while building up shipyard untill Robotics is at level 2.

Note that it's not until you hit level 4 phalanx that you begin to really see how useful of a weapon it is. I personally recommend raising it to at least 7 (which is 49 systems EACH way so 98 systems total) which is the point where the duet cost of sending your fleet there as well as the cost of upgrading it further become quite high.

Also note that in my build I constructed the jump gate as soon as I hit my Robotics goal. This is so that I can gate my fleet there instead of spending the millions of duet traveling there. All I do is send my transports on a moon to moon deploy with the res I want to bring and then gate my fleet there once the transports arrive. If it's your first moon there's no point in constructing the jump gate until just before you start to decon your Robotics factory as the res is better spent elsewhere until then. I also build up my moons one at a time as it costs a lot of crystal and duet to do so and is difficult to do efficiently when spreading yourself between more than one.

4. Abandoning a moon

Maybe you have a small moon on a planet but want to get a bigger one so it cannot be destroyed by RIPs that easily. In this case you can abandon the moon like a colony. Change to the moon using the drop down menu and press on the link called: Moon "Moon" at orbit of [X:XXX:XX] where "Moon" is the name of your moon. There you can abandon it.

Once it is abandoned it will still be visible in the Galaxy for 1-2 more days but in that time it is owned by the space. Missions going to the moon will still proceed and are not automatically recalled. The moon will be displayed red bordered if it was abandoned.

How Do I Use My Moon?

1. What is a Sensor Phalanx and how does it work?

A sensor phalanx allows you to scan any planet within range (range is [(level of the phalanx)² - 1] solar systems). When you scan a planet, you get a readout in a popup of all fleets going to and coming from that planet, similar to the overview screen of that player, giving the exact arrival times, and the fleet composition. The advantage of this, is a player can scan your planet, see your fleet on a mission, and time his fleet to arrive 2 seconds after at your planet, this meaning he will destroy it for sure. This is why it's vital to avoid being in phalanx range. Every scan with a sensor phalanx costs 5,000 deuterium.

note:

Quote What a phalanx can see:


If you scan the origin planet or the target planet:


- Fleets on attack mission (ACS too)
- Fleets on transport mission
- Fleets on espionage mission
- Fleets on hold mission (ACS)


If you scan the origin planet:


- Fleets on a harvest mission
- Fleets heading towards a moon except deployment
- Fleets recalled from all missions except deployment
- Fleets on moon destruction mission
- Fleets on colonise mission
- Fleets returning from a mission


If you scan the target planet:


- Fleets on deployment


What a phalanx can't see:


If you scan the target planet:


- Fleets recalled from deployment mission
- Fleets heading towards that planet's moon or debris field from elsewhere
- Fleets returning from a mission


If you scan the origin planet:


- Fleets on a deployment mission
- Fleets recalled from deployment mission


Special note: when scanning origin planet, you only see return time. If you scan target planet, you see only arrival time.
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A few things to note when using a Phalanx:

A - The longer it's been since your last phalanx of the target the more inaccurate the time will be in your window. So be sure to lanx again within the last minute before launching your attack.

B - When trying to time your attack choose your time carefully. Avoiding a 1 second hit is impossible without cheating, 2 seconds is nearly impossible without cheating, 3 seconds is unlikely but possible, 4 seconds is possible and anything 5 seconds and above is probable. Also note that if it's a deploy mission your attacking to add 2 seconds to each of these times as there will be a 2 second lag with the fleet landing.

C - When a deploy mission is recalled it will disappear from your phalanx.

D - Fox game can be used to make it easier to time your attack by using the times in the overview. In the redesign, you get to see the times without special add ons.

E - If you're in an ACS uni use a single ship ie a Large Cargo or Light Fighter when first setting the time. Do this with enough time for another attempt if you miss time it as this will cost you very little duet if you need to recall it and try again compared to your entire fleet which can then be ACS'd into the attack later.

F - Planets owned by (i I) [= space] are phalanxable.

G - When phalanxing the target planet you will see the time till the fleet arrives there. When phalanxing the origin planet you will see the time till the return of the fleet but not when the fleet is arriving at it's target - it is the complete flight time that is displayed in this case!

2. What are Jumpgates and what do they do?

Jumpgates are hugely expensive buildings that can be built on moons. You need at least TWO jumpgates (and therefore TWO moons) for them to function. You can then send a fleet of as many ships as you like (but not resources, only ships) between the two jumpgates once per every 60 minutes, TOTALLY free. Jumpgate travel is instantaneous. You can only send fleets between two jumpgates that YOU own.

3. Fleetsaving

Assuming that you know what this is. With a moon you are able to fleetsave to a DF by including Harvesters in the fleet, while you are able to do this from a planet, when you do it from a moon the fleet is undetectable by Phalanx. The only vulnerable time is when it sits on your moon. This allows for some very handy fleetsaving over long distances. Having a moon in orbit also means that it takes approx 3 minutes for a fleet to travel to the planet at full speed and costing just a few 100 in Deuterium, even for a huge fleet. The advantages of this are covered just below.

Also note that Df's can be watched if your fleetsaving is too regular so mix it up as well as sending decoy fleets to gather up the DF before your main fleet does making sure to vary these times. The only 100 percent safe fleetsave is a deploy mission between moons if you are online before it arrives.

4. Ninja's

If you have two moons you are able to set up Ninja's if you have jump gates on both moons. Typically you need some bait to lure an attacker to attack with a decent sized fleet. When they are just about to hit the moon/planet, you can then send your ships through the jump gate and catch them off guard. This technique is best used with a high level of espionage, this may have the effect of limiting the attackers view of your moon, thus not enabling them to see that you have a jump gate. Note that if he's careful enough, he can always send more probes to see the info though.

Using the Phalanx you are able to see at what time a fleet will reach a certain planet. Armed with this knowledge you are now able to send your fleet to arrive at the planet (if they are returning home) just a matter of seconds after them, thus not allowing enough time for them to fleetsave. Alternatively you are able to defend someone with the same level of accuracy if you are on their buddy list.

This is the basic gist of a Phalanx Ninja, it is a little more intricate, and I would suggest that advice is sought from an experienced player, or small experimentations are made prior to a major Ninja attempt.

So are there any disadvantages?

1. Destroying Moons

Moon destruction with RIP's is a risky business. There is not a huge chance that they will be able to destroy the moon and a very good chance that they will be destroyed in the attempt themselves. The chance of the Deathstar destroying the moon is worked out with the following formula

(100 - squareroot(moonsize)) * (squareroot(number of deathstars))

For ten Deathstars attacking a moon that is 8000km in size

(100 - 89.44) * 3.16 = 33.36

So a 33% chance of succeeding

At the same time as this there is a chance that the Deathstars (including any accompanying fleet) will be destroyed by the moon, worked out by the following

(squareroot(Moonsize))/2

89.44 / 2= 44.72

A 44% chance that they will be destroyed themselves

The most efficient way to destroy a moon is by sending more veawes of 1 RIP at it. Note that if there's any defence/ships on a moon before the moon destruction takes place, the battle occurs first and the moon destruction takes place after, IF the attacker winns the battle.

If a moon is destroyed, all fleets returning to the moon will go to the planet instead. They then become visible when phalanxing the planet in question. All foreign fleets sent to the moon will be automatically recalled at the same moment when the moon explodes. If a moon is destroyed, you can get a new one at the same planet.

FAQ's

1. When I mouse over a moon on the galaxy page, what do those numbers mean?

- Size: xxxx is the size of the moon in kilometers, and the Temp: xx is the minimum temperature of the moon (not useful for anything currently).

In redesign, you can only see the moon size in the galaxy view.

2. Can I get more than one moon, and would it be useful?

- Of course, but not around the same planet. Two moons, especially in different galaxies, would be great - you can have phalanxes on both, giving you two large scanning areas, and jump gates between them - it takes recyclers around 10 hours and 1.5k deut each to travel 2 galaxies at 100% speed, so free instantaneous travel quickly pays for itself.

3. Does the moon give extra points?

-The Moon itself doesn't give you any extra points just as a colony doesn't and is treated the same (i.e. you do get points for anything built on it).

4. Will the player I'm Phalanxing know it?

- Until they see your fleet timed to land 2~4 seconds after their's does. They do not receive any message that they are being phalanxed.

5. Can you fleet save by attacking a planet and still be undetectable when sending from the moon since moons can't be scanned?

- Yes, BUT they may pick up your fleet by scanning the planet you're attacking. This is not recommended.

6. If someone attacks my planet will they get the res from my moon as well and will the ships from both be in the attack?

- Not at all, think of them as 2 individual colonies side by side. They are not connected to each other in any way as far as an attack is concerned.

7. I was doing a moontrade and once my fleet crashed into the other players planet he recalled his fleet that was sent to attack me. What can I do about this?

- Unfortunately there's not anything you can do unless you are the lower ranked player AND he recycles the DF from your fleet at which point he can be reported for pushing. If he doesn't recycle the DF there isn't currently anything that can be done from the GO's side. If he's the lower ranked player he can do this AND recycle the DF and nothing can be done as well.

Thanks to Naugus, Drew from the Uni5 Rampage alliance, ChowRitt, Bibob and various others for the previous versions. Thanks to Zinzin and the other mods who helped me see this version to it's fruition.

edit:many thanks to zulu(Downtime), Naugus, Drew, ChowRitt, Bibob, Crimson King, Evangelion and all who helped in one way or another~zz

FAQ'd -FF
Further FAQ'd (:D)-zz

added abandoning moons
added fleet actions in case of a moon destruction
updated what a phalanx can/cannot see
added F & G part to the phalanx text
-merlin

added clarification to what can/can't be seen, namely what is seen when scanning origin and target. - imnvs
removed moon feilds bit, 6/11/08 ~ Baka Saru
Removed Phalanx comment that only outbound fleet composition can be seen, no longer true. -Lynbo
fixed typo. - imnvs sep12.09
Edit: March 6th 2010 - Updated for redesign - Safira
Edit: April 25th 2010 - Updated according to version 1.2.2 - Safira

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Activity (*) Explanation (by Safira, based on a FAQ by Merlin) (June 14th, 2010)

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Activity FAQ (version 2)

Based on a FAQ here: Planet Activity FAQ

Activity (*) Explanation

In this FAQ I try to explain the appearance of the activity asterisk in the galaxy view. In previous updates the circumstances under which the asterisk appears has been changed around quite a bit so it is a bit confusing.

I take no responsibilty for the correctness of the points covered here. Also note that the fleet events that trigger activity are yet not 100% clear.

Credits go to Francolino from the Game Technics team, thanks to whose work (he spent a LOT of time on this) I was able to write this explanation.

1. Activity indicators:

Activity indicators will tell you if there is/was an activity at a planet at a certain period of time.

There are three phases:

There is activity at a planet: 0 minutes - 14 minutes 59 seconds

There was activity at a planet XX minutes ago - 14 minutes 59 secons - 59 minutes 59 secons

There was no activity - beyond 59 minutes 59 seconds

There are three ways you can see the activity:

• For the first 14 minutes 59 seconds after the activity stops (*) will be shown next to the planet name. Beyond 15 minutes a time is then displayed in place of the star (15 min). This time value is shown up until 59 minutes 59 seconds (59 min) and then after that point there will be no activity indicator displayed next to the planetname.

• If you scroll over the planet picture, you will see another activity indicator. When there's an activity at the planet (for the first 14 minutes 59 seconds), you can see an orange triangle:

Beyond 15 minutes, you will see "Activity: XXm". Time indicator here also dissapears at 59 minutes 59 seconds. You can only see it when scrolling over a planet picture. Scrolling over a moon picture will not show this kind of activity.

• Third way of seeing activity is via espionage reports. Whenever you probe a moon/planet, you will see activity report which tells you if there's been any activity at the planet/moon. Activity report is under resources and you see it in any case, no matter what your espionage technology is. If there's activity only at moon and you probe a planet, the report will show no activity vice versa. If you're probing a planet with a moon, this is the only way to see whether the activity was made on planet or moon. It will look like this:

For the first 14 minutes 59 seconds:

Quote Your espionage report shows abnormalities in the atmosphere of the planet which suggests activity within the last 15 minutes.

For time between 14 minutes 59 seconds and 59 minutes 59 seconds:

Quote Your espionage report shows abnormalities in the atmosphere of the planet which suggests activity within the last XX minutes.

After 59 minutes 59 seconds:

Quote Your espionage does not show abnormalities in the atmosphere of the planet. There appears to have been no activity on the planet within the last hour.

NOTE: Seeing your own activity is a bug. Your own activity does not behave like a normal activity, thus it can not be used to test the activity.

2. Activity behaviour/creating activty:

The data in a quote may not be up to date, it is a copy from this thread: Current game details

Quote State June 28th 2010

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• General :
  - An * appears on the home planet when you login.
  - An * appears on the current planet / moon when you logout.
  - An * appears on the NEW location at changing the current planet / moon.
  - An * appears on the current planet / moon with EVERY click on all menu items.
  - NO * appears with click on Support / GameForge / Help / Board / Rules / Imprint.
  - The * (or the time) from the planet and the associated moon overlaps. It appears always the last activity.
  - Inter-Planetary Missile are handled as ships
  
  
  
• Events :
  - An * appears on the current planet / moon with click on relaod at eventlist, sensor phalanx and fleet movement.
  - An * appears on the current planet / moon with autoreload at eventlist and fleet movement.
  - NEW foreign fleets ONLY appears in the eventlist with click on relaod.
  
  
  
• Flights :
  - An * appears at departure on the starting planet / moon.
  - An * appears at arrival on the target planet / moon. Exception mission ACS defend - NO * appears.
  - An * appears at return on the starting planet / moon.
  - An * appears at abort on the current planet / moon.
  
  
  
• Special situations :
  - Normal * behavior for banned players without vacation mode.
  - Normal * behavior for inactive players. ( i and I )
  - NO * after 35 days inactivity. ( No account deletion in existing BOUGHT DM )
  - NO * from activation of vacation mode.

3. How can I use activity?

Activity is a very important part of the gameplay. There are many strategies based on it.

Activity indicators can tell you two things. One is that a player is/was online and making activity. The other is that actvity was caused the other way - with fleet contact. Once you combine watching the activity and probing a planet, you can determine player's online times and fleetsave times. This is very useful when it gets to hunting and planning missions like moon destruction or blind lanx.

Note: Server forces you to log off at 3:00 AM ST. As logging in again creates activity, players with no activity at homeworld are not online at this time. It is quite safe to attack that time of a day.

See details here: So you wanna be a Hero? - from a n00b to a pr0

Watching activity will also help to prevent you from being ninja'd, as well as hiding your activity can make you look offline thus ninja-ing a player.

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Jonathan The Great's Unofficial Universe 1 GNN Report (July 1st, 2013)

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GNN Report (Unofficial) - June 2013

GNN UPDATE - JUNE 2013 EDITION

* This GNN Report is not officially sponsored by Gameforge *

-( INTRODUCTION )-

The month of June has finally come to a conclusion and at the halfway point of the current year of this universe, we should all take a moment and look back at this past month's current events and things that are happening across our community. I'm not an official GNN Reporter, this is my first time attempting anything of this particular nature but I have been a part of this community for years and have played the game itself for many years prior to now and figured that somebody should take an initiative and take up this responsibility. I feel that it would be nice thing to have updates on how things are progressing within this universe on a regular monthly basis and I'd like to take the first step by posting an update here for the viewing audience to give everyone an idea of what's going on.

As you all have probably witnessed, the merger in which created Universe 1 was essentially a combination of over a dozen and a half universes thrown together into a single server and what remains today is a group of individuals who are the last remaining veterans of OGame. The current population of players who reside in Universe 1 as of July 1st, 2013 is totalled at 1,862 but the true number of individuals who reside in this server and actively play are not reflected in the total numbers of registered accounts on the server, reports such as the one posted here in this section are important in their purpose because they inform everyone of what's happening within the community and acknowledges who the players are that have made the most impact in keeping the community alive or have set themselves above everyone else with their rankings and achievements either on the boards or ingame.

-( TOP 10 PLAYERS - OVERALL RANKINGS )-

The following list of individuals are the ones who have reached the top of the OGame leaderboard and have a score above everyone else, they probably will remain in these ranks for a very long time until the day comes when a new challenger rises to take their place. Being on top doesn't necessarily mean that you are an active player, all the individuals listed below will be tagged as to whether or not they are active or in vacation mode, that way you know who to "really" watch out for...

RANK #1

Name: urza

Alliance: Republic of LUE - [RoLUE]

Status: Active

Honour Points: 15,116,000

Title: Grand Emperor

Score: 90,166,844 (Rank: 1)

Economy: 24,241,288 (Rank: 25)

Research: 4,891,585 (Rank: 10)

Military: 61,379,364 (Rank: 1)

RANK #2

Name: pinky

Alliance: The Gang - [TheGang]

Status: Active

Honour Points: 4,517,695

Title: Grand Emperor

Score: 73,809,732 (Rank: 2)

Economy: 21,100,660 (Rank: 45)

Research: 4,583,003 (Rank: 16)

Military: 48,749,251 (Rank: 2)

RANK #3

Name: no 88

Alliance: N/A

Status: Vacation Mode

Honour Points: 908,022

Title: Emperor

Score: 63,279,438 (Rank: 3)

Economy: 22,182,436 (Rank: 34)

Research: 4,016,766 (Rank: 25)

Military: 37,245,741 (Rank: 4)

RANK #4

Name: Graf Zahl

Alliance: still searching for wayne - [wayne]

Status: Vacation Mode

Honour Points: -553,479

Title: Bandit King

Score: 55,748,294 (Rank: 4)

Economy: 18,573,928 (Rank: 73)

Research: 3,818,587 (Rank: 29)

Military: 33,677,282 (Rank: 5)

RANK #5

Name: Geromoto

Alliance: N/A

Status: Active

Honour Points: -347,241

Title: Bandit Lord

Score: 52,286,021 (Rank: 5)

Economy: 13,955,127 (Rank: 151)

Research: 3,353,672 (Rank: 41)

Military: 37,669,287 (Rank: 3)

RANK #6

Name: piper

Alliance: N/A

Status: Vacation Mode

Honour Points: 2,260,081

Title: Grand Emperor

Score: 42,640,047 (Rank: 6)

Economy: 15,124,503 (Rank: 124)

Research: 2,979,298 (Rank: 53)

Military: 26,066,197 (Rank: 6)

RANK #7

Name: Delus

Alliance: Republic of LUE - [RoLUE]

Status: Active

Honour Points: 5,116

Title: N/A

Score: 41,609,821 (Rank: 7)

Economy: 29,536,028 (Rank: 5)

Research: 3,974,696 (Rank: 26)

Military: 9,127,534 (Rank: 63)

RANK #8

Name: theblueimp

Alliance: TNT - [TNT]

Status: Active

Honour Points: -1,687,894

Title: Bandit King

Score: 39,191,505 (Rank:

Economy: 16,510,513 (Rank: 103)

Research: 6,504,897 (Rank: 2)

Military: 16,577,519 (Rank: 17)

RANK #9

Name: HogarSashni

Alliance: Galactic Serbian Empire - [SERBIA.E]

Status: Vacation Mode

Honour Points: 913,749

Title: Grand Emperor

Score: 38,982,403 (Rank: 9)

Economy: 10,850,518 (Rank: 225)

Research: 2,332,094 (Rank: 81)

Military: 25,949,153 (Rank: 7)

RANK #10

Name: NikeJoshua

Alliance: Bunny Incursion - [BunnyInc]

Status: Active

Honour Points: 72,973

Title: Emperor

Score: 38,955,963 (Rank: 10)

Economy: 33,783,769 (Rank: 2)

Research: 4,162,645 (Rank: 20)

Military: 1,328,028 (Rank: 562)

-( INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENTS & RECOGNITION )-

Not everyone reaches the Top 10 of the leaderboard but there are players who set themselves above everyone else on an individual basis who have made achievements worth recognizing. Outlined in this section are various categories in which certain players have done an exceptional job maintaining their position as a top player of their respective area of specialty, these individuals earn their recognition here for their personal achievements...

BEST IN CATEGORY - HONOR

Name: urza

Alliance: Republic of LUE - [RoLUE]

Status: Active

Honour Points: 15,116,000

Title: Grand Emperor

Score: 90,166,844 (Rank: 1)

Economy: 24,241,288 (Rank: 25)

Research: 4,891,585 (Rank: 10)

Military: 61,379,364 (Rank: 1)

BEST IN CATEGORY - ECONOMY

Name: Skaare

Alliance: The Void Alliance - [_VA_]

Status: Active

Honour Points: 46,746

Title: Star Lord

Score: 37,848,422 (Rank: 12)

Economy: 34,959,655 (Rank: 1)

Research: 2,767,944 (Rank: 61)

Military: 699,556 (Rank: 768)

BEST IN CATEGORY - RESEARCH

Name: Reloko

Alliance: Fresh Start - [FrSt]

Status: Vacation Mode

Honour Points: 34,097

Title: Star Lord

Score: 15,933,954 (Rank: 215)

Economy: 8,982,021 (Rank: 293)

Research: 6,737,787 (Rank: 1)

Military: 404,327 (Rank: 901)

BEST IN CATEGORY - MILITARY

Name: urza

Alliance: Republic of LUE - [RoLUE]

Status: Active

Honour Points: 15,116,000

Title: Grand Emperor

Score: 90,166,844 (Rank: 1)

Economy: 24,241,288 (Rank: 25)

Research: 4,891,585 (Rank: 10)

Military: 61,379,364 (Rank: 1)

BEST IN CATEGORY - MONTHLY HOF T.D.

Name: pinky

Alliance: The Gang - [TheGang]

Status: Active

Honour Points: 4,517,695

Title: Grand Emperor

Score: 73,809,732 (Rank: 2)

Economy: 21,100,660 (Rank: 45)

Research: 4,583,003 (Rank: 16)

Military: 48,749,251 (Rank: 2)

Total Monthly Damage: 4,474,785,000

-( DIPLOMACY & SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS )-

The month of June began with a war being declared by urza who is the leader of [RoLUE], there was no reason for the war and no terms but the intended targets were the alliances [OPKA], [PAX], [UDA], [LoL], [GHA] & [Rampage]. A little over five hours later, the leader of [RoLUE] declared that the war was over and the conflict ended without a single combat report being posted on the boards by any of the alliances involved. It is assumed that things were sorted out internally amongst the leadership of all the alliances involved in the war because everything was over before anything could really get started and the true winner of that conflict will always remain a mystery even though a few individuals say that [RoLUE] is the winner despite the lack of combat reports or evidence to support those assertions...

Things were relatively quiet within the community after that point until an individual known as Cox posted an update in the discussion thread about an incident regarding the alliance [F.G.R.] - Forgotton Realms wondering why they got disbanded. Considering that he wasn't an active player within the community in recent weeks and the discussion thread had been relatively quiet for the past month, I figured that he was up to no good and looking to stir up a little drama. I tend to do a bit of investigative work as a reporters are known to do, I interviewed my contacts in [F.G.R.] and various other individuals within the community as to who might have done this sort of thing and what their motives were. Upon reviewing my research notes after interviewing my sources and gathering information, it was apparent within a short period of time that Cox himself was the culprit and he had done so while posing as an individual known as VinFrattini (aka Vincent) which not only had a Facebook posting mentioning the infilitration and disbandment but his involvement was also confirmed by various sources within Universe 1 who were approached by the player Vincent who identified himself as Cox with those individuals. The most amusing part concerning this whole situation was that Cox himself denied the allegations when they were brought to his attention on the public boards while proceeding to make elaborate excuses and attempts at a play on words to distract from the evidence which was pretty overwhelming and self-explanatory against him. After much debate and dialogue, he finally confesed to his actions which was the only remaining thing that was necessary in order to put this matter to rest and at the end it was just a little drama to occupy everyone's time during the month since nothing much else was happening.

The month was nearly over at this point, I guess Cox decided to end the month in the same fashion that the month had begun by starting a war of his own using the Vincent account he used for the earlier infilitration against [F.G.R.] and declared against ten alliances under his own alliance tag [TGBSWWTG]. The intended targets were: [BunnyInc], [RoLUE], [TNT], [R E V O], [FrSt], [LEGEND], [PAWNZ], [Oldskool], [wayne] & [Jeb], the war was declared as a standard war like the one at the beginning of the month with no reason or terms. Unlike the first war at the start of the month, this war was over the very second Cox clicked on he submit button because he neglected to read the rules regarding war, he was a lone member in an alliance so he needed to disband his alliance prior to declaring unless he could manage to recruit a second player into his alliance to keep his alliance tag. Within days of the start of the war and at the final moments of June, the war was declared invalid and the month came to a close...

-( CONCLUSION & FINAL THOUGHTS )-

Hopefully the month of July brings new events and some entertaining new developments to the community, everyone has the ability to make an impact on how the community functions and what events everyone is able to participate in. Perhaps a discussion could take place in the upcoming weeks to plan a future competition later down the road, or maybe war of limited duration might occur that might motivate a few of the seasoned veterans to prove themselves in a competitive nature that accomplishes some sort of objective that might be an inspiration for others to follow. I leave for the hospital on the morning of July 3rd to go into surgery and my account is already in vacation mode in preparation for my extended absence, I wish everyone in the community the best of luck on whatever you decide to do with yourselves during this month while I'm away on my leave. Hopefully when I am done reviewing the current events after I come back in a few weeks, I will have better things to write about in regards to what is happening within the community at the end of the month, until then I will be signing off for now and wish everyone the best of luck this summer!

Best Regards,

Jonathan The Great

[TSL] Alliance Leader

OGame Universe 1

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OLD GUIDES

Ban Issues (First post by Cassandra Vandales on March 7th, 2005, Second post by Cavalier on December 6th, 2005, Third post by PinkFloyd on April 23rd, 2006)

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Ban issues

If you got banned from the game, there may be several reasons.

- you get something "BAnned for security reasons"

- you see in the pillory a GO/SGO/GA banned you for a reason which might be: Multi accounrt/ name / Bugusung(Cheating)/ germanspeaking User ....

The "Banned for sercurity reasons" appears sometimes when people try to log in. You are NOT really banned, there is no (b) behind your name in the galaxy menu. Try to login again, normally this resolves itself. If that doesn't work, make sure you used the correct Username or Password.

A GO has the authority to ban you when you violated the ingame rules. He/she bans as it is appropiate, very often it means the account is disabled until it gets deleted. If you think you got banned unjustified, you have the possibility to talk to the GO to get unbanned. On:

- Ticket: Here you can communicate with your GO. Please give them a reasonable amount of time to respond.

- IRC: Here you can directly talk to the GO as it is a chat. Go to #ogame.org and look if there is the GO who banned you. Please do NOT try to talk to another GO, only the one who banned you should be the one you ask for an unban.

- email: all GOs have an email address which can be found here.

- PM : Please do not make much use of this. Some GOs do reply, but some are nearly never on the boards and so they can't see the PM you sent.

If a GO doesn't reply to you after 48 hours, you have the possibility to talk to the SGO. If you communicated by ticket, then the ticket will automicatically be directed to the SGO. Here you also find the SGO's email address, but the best option is to look for him in IRC. If he isn't reachable then talk to a GA, email address also located here or you find him in IRC.

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Right, this is to clarify a few things to prevent unnecessary communication, and wrongful bannings - I'll set it out in an FAQ format.

• I'm taking over someone else's account. What should I do?
  
• But someone else is taking over my account! What then?
  
• I'm going to be account sitting for someone else. What do I need to do?
  
• My fleet has disappeared and the planet it was going to/coming from has gone! Will I get them back?
  
• I have other people playing on the same IP address / same computer as me. What can I do?
  
• Can you put us on a special list so we can trade with/spy on/attack each other?
  
• I'm going away but don't want my account to be deleted - how can I stop this?
  
• I've had an emergency and can't put my account into vacation mode. What should I do?
  

This is a simple process, but one that can lead to unnecessary worry. What you should do is go to your existing account, and look in your options:

Tick activate vacation mode.

Tick delete account.

Click save changes.

Presto, you're done, and you're now free to login to the next account being given to you.

If you can't activate vacation mode yet because you have a shipyard queue/building/research being done - wait, or cancel the building or research. It's not like you're playing it anymore, so it doesn't really matter if you cancel it does it? That account must go into vacation mode though, so if you've got a four day long shipyard queue, you could be facing a long wait.

Once you've got your new account, go immediately to the options screen. Change the password, and change the email address. This should be the first thing you do. Don't change it to something you use commonly - otherwise the original owner can recall it and presto every password you use is theirs. Try and make your passwords unique.

It's a process that just runs down the chain. Have them set their account into vacation mode and deletion. Then give them your details. Once that's done, they can login to yours, and you can then login to your new account.

Once you've got your new account, go immediately to the options screen. Change the password, and change the email address. This should be the first thing you do. Don't change it to something you use commonly - otherwise the original owner can recall it and presto every password you use is theirs. Try and make your passwords unique.

Read the game rules. Make sure you're well versed in them, because they are extremely important with regards to account sitting.

Open a ticket with the Game Operators in your universe. Advise them of your account name and advise them the name of the person you will be account sitting for.

Yes. This is what happens when you've been raiding someone/sending resources to someone whose account gets deleted. They do not necessarily have to have been inactive. Be patient. It will disappear from your overview screen, but will return when it is supposed to.

The only thing you can share in common with them other than an IP address is an alliance. That's it. Don't ever try to transport resources to them. Don't ever try to raid them. Don't even try to probe them. Don't trade with the same people, don't attack the same targets.

Basically, put everything aside and play like you don't know them, because any involvement you have with them will make us wave the multiaccounting hammer at you.

No.

Simple. Put it into vacation mode. Get someone else you trust to login to it every two weeks or so. Nice and simple. Your account won't get deleted. Inactive accounts aren't deleted for 35 days.

Get someone else to account sit for you and they can activate vacation mode. If it's a bad emergency, Game Operators may allow an extended period of account sitting, but the same rules do apply.

Always remember:

:adminw:

PS: If you have any other questions regarding accounts, feel free to contact your Game Operators.

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To know why you were banned,you have to look in the Pillory of your Universe

--> Pillory

Contact the GO of your Universe. They are the only people who can help. If you send them an email, please give them a reasonable amount of time to respond. IRC is a good way to find them. If they arent on there, then someone else MAY be able to help.

--> GO List

--> Ogame IRC Channel

*due to the previous problems,the link doesnt point where it should....fixed now~zinzin*

links updated - Kebab 19/01/10

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Early Game Guide (by DanCake, posted by bibob) (March 12th, 2006)

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An early game guide.

As I said before, when .de players are allowed to play here, I would do a little 'guide' to starting the uni,to help us put up our best fight.

Im sure this is not perfect and that some other players have a nicer way, but this is everything I know! If anyone has stuff to add, please do!

Ok, here is my thinking. A small cargo *can* net U 5k resources every run. I dont think there is an early game mine to match that therefore this is your first target. The techs and building required cost a total of 3200/2160/3300 so your aim is 3.3k deut. The rest will come easy. Here is my recommended build order:

met 1,2,3,4

crys 1

met 5

crys 2,3

met 6

deut 1,2,3

(of course you need to build solar-plants inbetween aswell to have those mines powered ;))

Sometime U will have to adjust it slightly depending on when U are out/sleeping/whatever, as 1 resource is going to buildup more than another. After this, build up deut and crystal so U have mines 6/6/5 minimum. Just build metal and crystal whilst U wait for the deut to reach 3.3k. Your mines should be no higher than 8/7/6 if U want to be amongst the 1st to have a cargo. When deut starts approaching the 3.3k, start working on the techs and building required so U can do that last little thing straight away once total deut is 3.3k. U also want to have the 2k/2k ready for when the last upgrade is done.

Thats your cargo! The next pit is where people often go wrong. When U blind raid, dont just go to galaxy and find the nearest person! U shuld go to stats and look at the lowest score U can possible attack [your score/5, rounded up]. Once U find it, go up the list hitting the msg button and checking their coords. Repeat until U find someone nearby, and check their galaxy screen. If there is activity, find a different target. If U are home after the launch, keep an eye on galaxy and if U see activity, pull back your cargo, or it will probably die. The really patient ones amongst U may want to also check research score, as research lab needs deut, which makes shipyard + ML more likely. Check fleet stats for every attack to be sure they have no fleet.

Now U just raid like mad! My advice is to get computer tech 2 and 3 small cargos, all for blind raiding using that^^ strategy. If U doubt it, me and other people I have told about it have NEVER lost a single cargo like this, and ive done over 20 blind raids from this strategy.

I would also say, 'forget about your met and crys mines'. That stuff is easy to raid, spend your res on deut mines!

Your next aim is probes so U can make better raiding. I think U should have these at about 60 points, if not sooner.

Now U have your probes, U willwant more cargos to make the most of the targets. In my experience, 15 cargos, with computer tech 3 is really nice. I wouldnt build any LF until U got your 15 cargos. To mjake the most of your slots, U should rotate 2 waves of 2 raids. Ie, time the 1st 2 to return just before the other 2 hit, so that U can safety probe, but still use 4 raids at a time

At this stage I would build about 5 LF to battle those 1 ML people.

New target is HF. Get those asap, and build as many as U need to raid effectively, but no more.

New aim is LC and recyclers. For this, get your mines 10/10/10, at least. I would look to get deut more like 12 or 13.

If U are having a hard time filling those 15 small cargos, U should get an extra level of computer tech before combustion engines.

After this, im not entirely sure what to do. I usually just buildup as many HF and LC as I need to raid effectively, and have 2/3 recyclers constantly out collecting DF of 10k+. The main trouble has been that by this point almost everyone has the noob protection, and the people that dont are online more than me! This makes the recycs really good, but maybe with more experienced players, raiding will still be nice.

Now get your colony ships out and build the crystal mines higher than the metal. I would have deut 13 on both your main, and 1st colony. This will help U get more colonies quicker. IMO, U should go for battleships when your score is coming on 3k, when U should have something like 3-5 colonies.

The rest is just crashing and farming.

HF, and I hope this will help.

Oh, btw, U may notice I missed out cruisers. This is just my personal preference and I think it makes little difference except your deut comes harder if U get them. If U dont, U will need to fleetsave.

By DanCake

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Explaining Battle Calculations (by Cassandra Vandales) (September 17th, 2006)

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How a fight works

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Course of the fight:

In each round each unit of both sides fire once. A shot hits a single, coincidental target of the enemy (exception: rapid fire), the damage done to one unit gets first substracted from the shield, if those are down, the hull gets damaged, if a ship has no hull anymore, it's destroyed. Between the rounds of fighting the destroyed ships of the previous rounds get substracted.

Formulas:

Attack and shield strenght are defined for each unit and are to be read up in the descriptions ingame; the hull points are 10% of the structural integrity, structural integrity points are the same as the amount of metal and crystal built into that unit, therefore: hullpoints = (metal+crystal)/10. Weapon, shield and armor can be raised through researches, 10% each level. As the target hits are coincidental, the chance a unit gets hit is for each 1/(number of all own units).

After a fight a part of the defences get build up again, 60 - 80%, seperately for def types (rocket launcher, light laser etc) . When there are under 10 units on a planet, the possibility to get build up again is calculated for each unit individually, so it is theoretically possible that from 9 rocket launchers none gets rebuilt.

There are two particularities:

1) Chance to explode: as soon as the hull integrity is under 70%, there is a chance that a ship might explode when it absorbs the shot with shield or hull. This chance is the the percential stake in the total damage. A hit that hightens the damage up to 40% creates therefore a chance of 40% the ship explodes. Remember: a hit at a ship with full shields and 40% suffered damage which did not go through the shields still makes a 40% chance the ship explodes. Exception: ineffectualness rule

2) ineffectualness rule: If the attack value of a unit is only 1% or less of the shield strenght, so it will not cause any damage against the hostile unit. Therefore deaths stars (and also shield domes) cannot be destroyed by some ships and defence units as long as the shields are up.

As there is a lot of coincidence towards this as you see, you shgould always use a fight simulator:

Useful Ogame Tools.

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Addition to the above by IMNVS (September 29th, 2008)

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Regarding shields and how they work in combat
...or...
Why am I not breaking down that shield dome?

Quote Originally posted by Kelder, modified to be generic by IMNVS
Here is how it's calculated:


The damage to a shield is calculated as a percentage. That percentage is an integer, this means the fractional part is lost.


Examples:
1 small shield has 2000 shield power.


1 SC fires 5 weapon power. 100% * 5 / 2000 = 0.25% Rounded down becomes 0%. Commonly known as the bounce rule.


1 LF fires 50 weapon power. 100% * 50 / 2000 = 2.5%. Rounded down becomes 2%. In the instance of having 25 LF, 25 LF * 2% = 50% damage to the shield. Actually, 2%*2000 = 40. 25 LF * 40 = 1000 damage to shield.


1 CR has 400 weapon power. 100% * 400 / 2000 = 20%. Now, if this attack was to be added to the one before, and there were 2 CR, that would be another 40%, bringing the total shield damage to 90%.
Again, 1000 + 20%*2000 = 1000 + 800 = 1800 damage done (= 90%).


So, not enough to break through the shield, no damage to the hull, no use continuing the combat as there was no damage done. The damage absorbed is just the sum of the original weapon power, but I guess that was obvious


Is it a bug? Maybe. One could also call it a game feature of the battle system. Fact is it has been like this for years, if not since the beginning.


PS: thanks to TheButcher for freshing up my memory of this strange stuff

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Early ACS Combat (by Iceman) (February 26th, 2007)

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ACS~{Alliance Combat System} Tutorial

Here is a little descritption of what you can do with the ACS and how. I apologize for the missing screenshots, but I will also poast a link once it gets uploaded on the tutorial homepage.

ACS-combat-reports

No matter if its a group-attack or group-defending: If a battle happens, everybody involved has to fight and gets a CR.

For defenders: The main-defender (the owner of the planet) is always on the left, and the other defenders follow by the time they arrived.

For attackers its the same, on the left is the fleet who started the group-attack, and his partners follow.

The ships during the whole battle belong to its owners and use his techs.

The combat-system works like in a normal CR, the fleet on the left shots first (and there the "smallest" unit which is also n the left) and then the others follow.

Battles still last only 6 rounds and the targets are chosen randomly. So the one having the most ships will probably have the most losses too.

A group-attack can still get max. 50% of the planets res, and those are then splitted up between the attackers. Who has the more cargo-capacity gets more.

NOTE: Group attacks count for every attacker as one normal attack in the sense of the bashing-rule.

The alliance-depot

The alliance-depot allows you to support friendly fleets with deut, so they don´t have to bring it all by their own.The depot can launch a support-rocket that brings per depot-lvl 10.000 deut to the fleet in the orbit.

With this you can increase the holdingtime. Normaly the max. time how long a fleet can be hold is 32 hours. Everytime you launch a support-rocket, the holdingtime is extended by the time interval in which the fleet uses the deut.

The bigger the depot, the bigger the fleet that can be hold.

Group-attacking:

When you send a fleet to an attack you have now the option to invite other ppl to attack with you in a group. You just type in his ingame-name and he gets your invitation. Its also allows you to invite yourself to combine fleets from different colonies.

You don´t have to be in the same alliance to be invited.

Invited players get an IGM (ingamemessage) and have in the fleetmenu the option to join a group-attack. They can choose between all the groups they´re invited to.

Max. 5 players can combine their fleets and every player can add as much fleets as he want, but the group can´t consst of more then 16 fleets in total.

In addition: The group-speed may not be lowered more than 30% by new ships. If new fleets are slower, the option for a group-attack is not available!

As example: A fleet would need 2 hours (120 minutes)to a planet. 10 minutes after the takeoff joins a fleet, which needs 130 minutes. That is possible, since the new fleet slows the group down, but only around 20 minutes (16%). Another fleet, which would need 160 minutes, could not join.

You pay only as much deut as you would pay for a normal attack.

The group flyes with the speed of the slowest ship, and if a slower ship joins, the whole group is slowed down.

When a fleet leaves the group, it still flyes, even when the groupstarter leaves.

After the battle every surviving fleet flys back to where it comes from.

Group-defending:

That means that you deploy your fleet to the orbit of another players planet (you´ve to choose the "hold" order for that).

You can only deploy your fleet to members of your alliance or to ppl from your buddylist.

You can´t deploy the fleet to ppl who are in vacation-mode.

To deploy your fleet to another persons planet you choose the "hold"-order and set the time how long the fleet should stay there. The longer it stays the more deut is needed. The deut is automatically loaded onto your fleet. Remember that you need a high enough cargo-capacity to transport the extradeut

holding-costs

small cargo 5 deut per hour

large cargo 5 deut per hour

light fighter 2 deut per hour

heavy fighter 7 deut per hour

cruiser 30 deut per hour

BS 50 deut per hour

coloship 100 deut per hour

recycler 30 deut per hour

probe 1/10 deut per hour

bomber 100 deut per hour

solar satelit -

destroyer 100 deut per hour

RIP (deathstar) 1/10 deut per hour

NOTE: When you recall the fleet, all deut is gone.

Max. 5 player can hold their fleets on another persons planet.

If the planet gets attacked, only the planetowner sees the attacking fleet @ his overview.

NOTE: If you attack a planet where one of your fleets is deployed on, you fight against your own ships.

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Addition to the above by zinzin (February 28th, 2007)

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Quote Originally posted by .Iceman.
Read all about it --> ACS Tutorial <--

ACS WILL NOT be implemented into older Universes yet. This will happen in due course, but nobody knows when.


ACS is found in Universe 5 and Universe 18, and will be in all new universes, unless decided otherwise


So DO NOT ask about it! From now on asking if ACS will be implemented in uni xx is a warnable offense.

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Rapidfire Guide (by Burzum) (February 28th, 2007)

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I tried to write this new guide for the Rapid Fire.

With all the due respect, I think the current one is not enough clear and that is wrong in an important aspect.

Please read my guide, and rate it if in your opinion should be added at the official ones.

The Rapid Fire allows a ship to shot more than one time in a every single round.

This is a chance that depends on a percentage: every ship in OGame choses its target randomly; if the ship hits a target it has RF against, it will start like a dice roll that will eventually make the ship to fire again in that same round.

Even the following targets will be chosen randomly, and if the ship hits again a target with RF against, will start another roll and so on. If it hits a target without RF against, the ship will stop and the round will end.

What that is relevant is the kind of the target: It doesn't matter if the hit unit is always the same or always a new one.

In short the RF is the amount of probability a ship has to fire again if a certain target is hit.

There is no limit of how many times a ship can shot, but you can have a very realistic idea of what will happen looking at the chance of fire again.

The percentage a ship has to fire again is given by the amount of RF:

In the description of each ship if it has rapid fire, it will be followed by a kind of ship and a number.

You can find out the percentage of chance a ship has to fire again with this formula:

1-1/RF

or, same thing:

100-100/RF

Keep in mind:

- it does not matter whether the target is destroyed or not: the only relevant thing is what kind of target is hit.

- the target is always chosen randomly between all the available ones, of all the kinds.

- as a general rule of the combat system, the amount of damage a ship got is calculated after the round is ended, and only when the round is ended the ship is removed from the battle. That's why in a single round 1000 Battleships can fire all against a single Light Fighter, substantially wasting their fire. In the same way, the RF can chose the same ship again and again, as the destroyed target is removed only when the round is ended.

Now, the most important thing: the number of the RF does not means in any way the average number of target destroyed.

If you say a Battleship has RF 5 against Espionage Probes, this does not mean it is going to kill an average of 5 probes.

I'll explain this with an example:

Battleship has RF 5 against probe. With the formula we know if the fighter shot a probe it has the 80% of chance of firing again.

So we have our Battleship VS these 5 probes:

a b c d e

Let's see every single shot of the Battleship one by one:

1) 100% chance to hit a probe: probe a destroyed.

2) now it has 80% chance to fire again. It does. But now it has only a 4/5 to get another probe. So to destroy another probe it need 2 conditions to be verified: first, it has to fire again, second, it has not to hit probe a. Chance of getting another probe is 80%. So the chance of actually destroy another probe is the 80% of the 80%, this mean the 64% of chance to destroy 2 probes.

3) it fires at b, now it has again 80% of chance of firing again, but only 3/5 (60%) of getting a new probe. To destroy the third probe it need to be verified: 80% of shoting again after already had shot again, so 80% of another 80%. The target chosen at the second hit its not relevant to calculate if the ship will fire a third time. Battleship has 64% of chance to fire again. But to destroy 3 probes, it need to be verified even the other variable: only the 60% of the shot at the probes will tear down a third one, so the chance is the 60% of the 64% ---> 38% of chance for a fighter to destroy 3 probes.

4) Now to shot again it need to be: 80% of the 80% of the 80% ---> 51% (percentage of the chance of a fighter to shot 4 times). If it is quite likely for a Battleship to shot 4 times, we have to think that now to destroy another probe it has to hit either d or e: 40%

So to shot a fourth probe it need to happen that 51%, and inside this, that other 40% ---> 20% of the total. A Battleship has 20% of chance to take out 4 probes.

5) Now let's get probe e: to shot for the 5th times it needs to happen 4 times the 80%, one in the other, so the total chance is: 40%. In this percentage, it need to be verified the 20% of hitting probe e. 8% the final chance of destroying 5 probes.

Conclusion: in my theory a Battleship against 5 probes has only the 8% chance of destroying them all. So the RF 5 does not mean the average number of the destroyed ship.

Demonstration:

1) logical: if you have to shot 5 times without choosing the target, and you have 5 target, what make you think you are going to hit them all?

2) speedsim: try to simulate a Battleship against 5 probes. Does it ever win in one round?

In all the simulation I made it takes 2 rounds and the Battleship has to shot an average of 8 times to win. The chance of winning in one single round is so low (8%) that is not showed in Speedsim, as it makes 100 simulation and then it calculates the average result.

A Battleship against 30 probes:

If you use Speedsim you see the chance to win for the BS are about 18%

This is more bs-friendly, because as there are a lot of target, in the first rounds is hard to get the same (already destroyed) probe.

If the RF 5 meant a Battleship kills an average of 5 probes per rounds, the chance to win should be around 50%, but they are not.

Now here could be posted all the percentage of the RF for every single ship.

I really hope this guide could help someone.

Regards.

D

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The Fallen Angel's Blind Phalanx Guide (April 7th, 2008)

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~Blind Phalanx [Guide v2.5]~

» Here is the second version, with added GUIDE.

I think several people already use this, I dont claim this mine, its just I have written it ^^

=> Useful comments plz...

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:: 1 :: BLIND PHALANX FAQS::
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You can't phalanx moons, but you can do Blind Phalanx. Let me explain::


» First, to do this you need to have Speedsim ( Or any other simulating Tool ) and have the Combusion Drive, Impulse Drive and Hyperspace Drive technologies of your target. Here are some other useful simulating tools:



[In this FAQS I will do it with Speedsim]



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:: A :: General Conditions::
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» To perfom a Blind Phalanx you need to phalanx your target's PLANET or a Random planet. Let me explain the ramdom planet thing:
- If you are lucky and phalanx a random planet and you see that somebody is attacking this planet it with a good fleet...this fleet is coming from a moon, just too bad you cant phalanx the moon, BUT you have the SIMULATING Tool , you can simulate how much time the fleet will take to return to its moon.




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:: B :: Simulating Process::
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» You just need to input your target's Drives technologie here (that means you have probed him before)::





» Then you need to input the fleet you saw in the Attacker fleet-slot::





» And the most important thing is to input the Position. BUT think well. In the OWN Position [1] you input the MOON position where the fleet is coming back to.
Then click on the edit button and put the Planet location [2] (planet where the fleet is flying to attack).





» No need to put anything else... just push the Begin Simulation button and read the flight time!!







This flight time show how much time the fleet takes to return from the planet it is attacking to the MOON. You just need to prepare your fleet and launch it 3 sec after the fleet return to its moon.... and BOOM kaput !!


This could be done on any other planets, but works only in this way:: PLANET == return to ==> MOON



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:: C :: Random Example::
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» For example, you have a friend who is being attacked or you phalanx a random planet and see an incoming fleet. Still, the fleet is coming from a moon, so you can't phalanx it normally. I will give the details. All the number and coordonates below are totally fiction, I have randomly chosen them.






» Once all the informations has been gathered, we can start the simulating process with the chosen simulating tool. Speedsim, O-Cal.com or Any other one you use...




» Input the Fleet composition you saw on the phalanx and dont forget the drives levels. Let us use o-cal.com (It can be faster, but Speedsim works the same...).


=> In the "start" select the planet which is being attacked :: 2 : 70 :4


=> In the "destination" select the Moon, where the fleet will come back to:: 2 : 50 :7






» When all is inputed, simulate and read the flight time. I find:: 01h:13m:57sec for a 100% speed.






This time shows how much time the fleet will take to come back from the attacked planet to the moon. This is the "Blind Phalanx Time". Now I am sure you know what to do, just calculate the time when the fleet land on the moon, and time your own fleet to attack a few seconds later. Dont be afraid to leave between 2~5 seconds, because of the server lag. You can use this tool [[ http://www.ogame-world.com/calculators.php?link=hours-clock ]] to calculate or calculate normally/manually.



I hope it will help you doing Blind Phalanx!




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:: 2:: How to Counter BLIND PHALANX ??::
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» In the first part I have shown you how to do blind phalanx. This is a very powerful tool since in all universes the people who own a moon are increasing everyday. But remember that if you have a moon you are also a TARGET and can be victim of a blind phalanx. So we are not safe anywhere? No we are not safe... but we can think a little to be able to avoid some dangerous situations...


So how to counter BLIND PHALANX??




» This is quite simple. You just need to think a little before sending your fleet.
The weakness of the blind phalanx is that its not a 100% accurate Attack like normal phalanx. Indeed, the blind phalanx ONLY works if you know at which SPEED the fleet is flying. Usually when you attack someone you put a 100% speed to be sure that he has not the time to return and counter your attack somehow... THIS is the weakness. So people who will do blind phalanx will usually simulate with a 100% speed.
So that is where you can counter the Blind Phalanx!!!


» You simply need to send your fleet at a 90% or lower. Between 90% and 50% is good speed because there is not a BIG gap between flight times. Lower, the gap becomes more important and the blind phalanxer can guess pretty easily which speed your flying.


» So if you put a 90% speed and the person phalanx the planet that you are attacking and saw your fleet , he will simulate with the 100%.
I admit that you must be a bit lucky as well.


For example:: if your 100% speed is 1hour and your 90% speed is 1h10, and the blind phalanxer saw your fleet when it is at a 1h07 flight time... he will simulate and see that you are not at 100% speed. ANYWAY he can either say::
-Its a 90% speed
or
-Any other speed attack


So there is a percentage of luck that he wont bother attacking you, or try on a XX% speed... Taking between the 90% and 50% speed, there is an average 80% chance to EVADE the blind phalanx...
BETTER than nothing don't you think ?



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:: 3 :: PHALANXING RECALLED DEPLOYS::
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Everybody know and we tend to learn to our new players who dont own a shiny moon, that fleetsaving using the Deploy Mission is the best option. Indeed it is. But still not good enough. The Moon=>Debris Field fleet save is not safer, we will see this later. So the safer is still the old-lucky-damn-guys-who-own-two-moons, Moon=>Moon fleetsave which is totally stealthy and safe.


"Pfffff I have launched three times at him already, he always recalled....... Im wasting my deut and time.... *sob*... "


» So how to catch these little Deploy Fleetsavers ? Its is quite simple and basic. You just need a good deut bank, patience and a big cup of coffee.


» It is quite the same as above, using the simulating tool and using the Drives Technologies levels, as well as the fleet composition and the flying speed. I wont re-write all these thing, its the same. You have phalanx once and saw your target. But he/she recalls quite well and/or he/she is online everytime before the deployed fleet land. Anyway for this to work, the defender will have to recall the fleet.


NB:: About the flying speed; during fleetsave it can be guessed quite easily, just simulate at different low speed and you will know quite easily.


-BUT this is not only with luck. Most of the fleeter usually study carefully their target. So it means you can gather information during severals days/weeks on his fleetsaving habits. Taking his fleetsaving speed and average times, so you will know when to phalanx.




You will have to launch your fleet with the normal phalanx and force the player to recall. Now start the hassle... You will have to phalanx the planet where the fleet comes from, every 5 sec, or if you have a big deut hall, every 3~5 sec (to be more accurate). That is why you need patience, time and lot of deut. But hard work will pay!
=> Phalanx cost 5000 deut. Let say you phalanx every 5 sec it will come to:: 60K deut/min and 3.6M deut/hour...




Eventually, the player will recall. Recalling deploy missions leave a blank of the phalanx, so here it is. Take the server time he recalled (of course this is not 100% accurate, but if you do phalanx every 5 sec you will have a good marging).




» Simulate like above, with the fleet composition and the drives technologies levels, using the right speed and the server time... Push the button and you will know When the fleet come back to 'mama' planet
Just time your attack as usual!



::USEFUL TOOLS::




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:: A :: How to counter Recall Phalanx?::
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» Once you have pushed the recall button and the hunter has seen it... You cannot do anything. Or maybe try to bargain with him to save your fleet.


=>IF you know how to evade this, let me know



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:: 4 :: FLEETSAVING USING MOON=>DF::
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DF = Debris Field (Can be seen on the galaxy view)




» People say that once they have their moon, they are "safe". Sorry to say that but it is totally false. I have been targeted severals times when i was fleetsaving from my moon to a DF and hopefully there was always a few more seconds that allowed me to evade it. Because it is not a 100% accurate attack, it is a skillful and a bit of luck as well. This require a lot of skills and patience.




» So to catch this type of fleetsaver, you will need patience and a bit of luck as well.


» The main Idea is to study your target a bit before, knowing a little his fleetsaving/online times. Once you have the require informations, just find the basic ones as well. It is quite the same as above, using the simulating tool and using the Drives Technologies levels, as well as the fleet composition and the flying speed. I wont re-write all these thing, its the same.




» Time to sit in galaxy view and watch the DF. Yea I am not joking. Refresh the page as often as you can, until your hand goes numb. Eventually you will notice the DF disappear. BINGO!, your target's fleet has reached the DF and is returning to departure planet. Same as above, take the server time and do all your calculation with it. I wont explain the calculation again and again, just read above. I just give the main idea here.


» Time your attack as usual!


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:: A :: How do you know what DF to watch for when watching for the DF to disappear ?
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» Usually it will depend on the Galaxy shape and your Target's habits. But before doing anything, studying the target is really important. Try to have his online time as precise as possible. Thats the base of all good fleeter when you hunt someone...




» Then it will depend on the fleet... bigger it is... more deut it will require to fly solar systems... So if you fleetsave from your moon and you are an active person, who log in everyday at least once, you will like to have your fleet under hand to raid or hunt. And you will like to save as much deuterium as you can...So if you have a valid DF in the same galaxy as your moon is.... why would you pay more deuterium to fleetsave in an other one ?




» This guide I write is not the 100% bingo book accurate.... All the fleeter dont get fleet by luck. They just study and think a little as well... So just study your target. Lend him some traps::


1) Recycle all the DF in his Solar system and see if new one appear. If it appear he has surely done it to Fleetsave.


2) Or make a visible DF in all planet of his moon ss.... then see if only 1 disappear....


You may want to redo the operation several days. If everytime one DF disappear when he is offline...


Start to watch it !!!



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:: B :: How to counter DF watchers ??::
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» The weakness of this technique is that it is not really accurate. It depends when the hunter see the DF disappear. So let us think a little and trick him




» If you suspect someone might try to blind phalanx your MOON=>DF fleetsave, you can send from your moon, one (or several, depends on how much paranoid you are) decoy fleets consisting of a single recycler to arrive at the target DF a few seconds ( between 10~30sec ) before the main fleet.
If you are being hunt by someone, you can send an other recycler 30sec~1min after your main fleet reached the DF, in case the hunter send probs to re-create a DF to see if you tricked him. If he notice that the DF disappear again, and again, he wont bother sending his attack.
At the end the hostile player will observe wrong pickup time (of the decoy, before or after), and eventually only hit 1 recycler.
It is as well advised to alternate the decoy, in case the hunter prob the moon on the come back and see each time, 1 recycler lands, then your main fleet second, then the last recycler...


=>Once you send:: 1 recycler, main fleet, 1 recycler
=>Then you change:: 1 recycler, 1 recycler, main fleet
=>Etc, etc...




» An other way to fleetsave is to do it from your Moon to an invisible DF. Invisible DF are made by crashing a single espionage prob. This kind of DF can't be seen on the galaxy view. But still, who know what can happen. If during your fleetsave someone else crashes probs or fleet and create a DF, there is still a risk... So better be sure than sorry...




» But still, having two moons not so far is still the better way



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:: 5:: CLOSING AND THANX::
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~Thanx to all players who gave useful comments, so I was able to improve the "Guide" and make this new version more accurate...


~Special thanx to:
=> Mad Scientist
=> Skaare
=> CrystaClear
=> nemoj taka


~Credits goes to The Fallen Angel~
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P.S: Sorry for the English, if you don't understand something just ask I will try my best to explain again.

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Cass Tries To Prank The Whole OGame Community (April 1st, 2006)

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Well...

It has been a really long time on the forums here indeed.

Where shall I start? I registered here in on the forums in spetembre 2004, and became Smod end octobre.

There are so many many stories since then. I remember the old days when there was still Burg and Hapimeses, but since then many ppl came and went away again.

Well, no long goodbye. For that there was too much. I will ask maybe for an acc deletion and I guess i won't play Universe 1 longer.

Reply from Antithesis:

lolz, good riddance, get lost - finally, we are free from the cruel dictatorship

Reply from Majin:

Wow. it really sucks to see you leave cass, ogame won't be the same without you.

goodbye

Post #2:

After recent events it seems someone decided on a cleanup. Received a PM that I have to go and that other Admins were chosen - well, behind my back, I didn't know anything but was planned as it seems.

Reply from Graf Zahl:

Okay, Cassandra "The Lion" is gone and yes, I´m very happy about, I disliked her that much, you cannot imagine how much... but the important question is: Is spamming and flaming in this forum now allowed?

Reply from cetra:

I was torn when I read the thread. April fools and all, but the name, it had no yellow!

Post #3:

I was told I was not allowed to leave.

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Asjo Quick Counts Who Has The Most Death Stars (December 15th, 2006)

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Allright, so we're getting some more impressive numbers down and Graf Zahl is getting more competition. Here's how it looks as of now:

1. Graf Zahl (uni 6) 200+

2. Evil (uni 2) 100+

2. JoyceY (uni 10) 72

2. Riker (uni 70

3. Harkubazzi (uni 3) 68

4. fishtremble (uni 4) 60+

5. Light Sword Company (uni 1) 52

6. Carl (uni 10) 44

6. Midnight Train (uni 5) 41

7. buck angel (uni 5) 40

8. p_G (uni 7) 30+

9. Kiroro (uni 10) 30+

9. Saxon (uni 1) 30

10. Moto (uni 1) 30

11. Master Noob (uni 13) 25

12. apploner96 (uni 2) 24

12. Reinbach_III (uni 12) 21

13. Splut (uni 4) 20

14. The Monk (uni 2) 19

15. Shoduchi (uni12) 16

16. Sendor (uni 18) 13

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While it's odd U1 is so low on that list, it was hardly a complete list, and U1 players were very active about targeting anyone with RIPs to prevent people from building them up until someone eventually got big enough they couldn't be stopped (I have no idea who that would have been, probably someone in Mara.DIM).

lioness666 interviews Keyser Soze (February 22nd, 2010)

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uni 43: Interview with Keyser Soze

For the players in uni 43, I present to you my first interview. Todays interviewee is Keyser Soze of C.I alliance. I thought as my first interview as a GNN reporter, I would interview the rank 43 player. Keyser currently ranks 4th in the uni for fleet, and C.I ranks 5th in the alliance stats with 10 members. C.I are currently engaged in war with BTL.

CR thread CRs only: C.I vs .BTL.

declaration thread Standard War: C.I vs .BTL.

This interview was done via pm, so here is the legend:

lioness666

Keyser Soze

I am now the reporter for this uni, so if there is any time you are free to answer questions, i'm sure the uni would love to see what you have to say
Lemme know if this is ok, I can send you a pm interview for you to answer in your own time, thanks

Yea that would be fine anytime you want just send it over, congrats. you can ask whatever i'm not too worried about anything being unacceptable

Hey keyser! Thanks for doing this, here are the questions I wish to put to you. Anything you don't wish to answer can be edited later.

asl?

i am a 22 year old male from the untied states.

What you do outside of Ogame? (that scary phrase, REAL LIFE)

i am a college student, and hoping to finish up in two months

Nice! Good luck on the graduation. So what are you studying then?

i study liberal arts and science, i have studied for almost 3 years, after i get this degree ill take a break but will probably go back to school later , maybe for some more science degree,

How long have you played Ogame?

i have played ogame for just over 2 years now, time does "fly" heh

Yeah, feels like yesterday when I logged in for the first time, been playing over a year now
Let's continue, whats your favourite uni if you play more than one?

my favourite uni has been 43, i learned to play in 36 and i am currently in electre. But i have had my best run here in 43 and i have made friends in and out of C.I

Your best uni 43 moment? (HoF, ninja, whatever)

hmm possibly being asked to do an interview :p...i am not sure, i got my first solo advanced/top 10
but for something actually special i would have to say a hof that piff and myself did before he stoped playing ogame
mike (piff) is one of my best friends in real life and a big reason why i started playing ogame. it was a decent hit too. i had gotten a player to recall a deployment and i timed it back but left an almost 10 second gap for the return, so i asked piff to combine his fleet with mine and we send a couple waves.... the battle happened on first wave too

LOLS @ interview (blushes) Flattery will get you everywhere
What made CI go to war with BTL?

well first off several of us C.I guys had started to feel bored here in 43
a war seemed like a good way to spice things up, at the time we had a higher fleet per player and point per player rank than btl but they had more ships per ally, so they seemed to be the logical choice.... by then HoV had been very silent and there were some friendships between the alliances, for example i had grown to know TheLastEmperor and other members of C.I had once been in HoV
i believe another reason was because we are sexier... hehe (check war declaration) edit: link posted at beginning of report

It's been a fun war to read, but it's kinda died off...no hits now for over a week.
How do you think the war will end?

it seems like the war may never end, there hasnt been any talks of ending it, and since there is no bashing really going on i dont see either side getting "sick" of the war

I see a lot of BTL players in v-mode, what do you think about that?

well we knew a few of their members were v-mode, but at least myself personally expected them to come out of vmode sooner than later, especially when they should be defending their ally
and everyone knows that LoB decided out of the blue when he had a few day vaca from ogame that he didnt want to play any more. but to tell you the truth there are equal number of active players in both allaince, hell C.I has a couple in vmode... so btl is outnumbering.... but silent

What do you think about BTL's other war, with CRO?

in my own opinion, it was pathetic for a while... i know i was "verbal" on the boards about the horrible way CRO was going on about the war, not following the rules that they had proposed after CRo declined BTLs terms of war
it seemed like a joke... and still does... i remember telling C.I when we were talking about war that i would prefer the CRO/BTL war to just end

The big question: are CI and CRO working together on any of the hits?

no, we have not worked together on any hits. and as far as i know, though i can really only speak for myself, there havnt and wont be any attempts. we are both at war with BTL but we are different allies in different wars

END INTERVIEW

I'd just like to extend my gratitude to keyser for taking the time to answer these questions. I will be looking to interview more players from uni 43, so if you wish to share anything, please feel free to pm me ingame and we can set something up.

I would love to hear from someone in BTL, to report on the wars from from their side.

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lioness666 interviews CBBK + U43 Update (July 3rd, 2010)

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Uni 43 June 2010 report, & interview with CBBK

Uni 43 June 2010 report

Hey to all in uni 43, and welcome to the latest edition of gossip, scandal and rumours ( sorry, I mean breaking news) brought to you all once more by the laziest player in uni 43 (but hey, I work hard at it :P)

So, where should we start this report this month? How about a lot of HoV on the pillory list!!! Say what you all want guys, but the pillory does not lie So to Zagy, Najgori, Overkill, and Ravenor: the uni would like to say :bye:
To Revenger? What did you have to do to get Valkira's account?
(And we hope you follow your allies onto the ban list soon :P)

Whilst I'm here in the general section of the report: I'd like to thank all the players ingame who have responded well to my monthly pm regarding the latest reports as they get released...Already this is proving to work quite well, with players sending me messages and giving me offers of interviews, or suggestions to things they would like to see included in the report. Remember that although ogame may be a war game, but it is also a kinda cult community, lets keep uni 43 thriving!

Anyway, here's this months stats for the top 10's (as of June 29th, 2010)

Top 10 Players

1 [Miners] CBBK 3.943.797 (-)
2 [HoV] Revenger 3.669.589 (account takeover)
3 [FLY] daphne 3.416.666 (-)
4 [HoV] John 3.350.041 (+2)
5 [HoV] Indijanac 3.301.419 (+1)
6 [PENGUINS] Orto 3.188.144 (-2)
7 [KTA] S p a c e m a n 3.055.031 (+1)
8 [PENGUINS] Penguin of Death 2.778.266 (-1)
9 [Miners] Iuda 2.678.562 (-)
10 [C.I] dellas 2.621.494 (NEW ENTRY)
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65 [KTA] lioness666 1.395.018 (+11)

KK, so quick comparison from last month: CBBK retains the No 1 Slot. Revenger (the NooB) takes over Valkiras account, and adopts the number 2 player rank Daphne maintains the rank 3 position this month. Orto drops 2 ranks to John and Indijanac (former eXe) Penguin of Death loses the 7th slot to KTA's S P A C E M A N. Iuda keeps the 9th slot, and Dellas takes over the 10th rank place with Najgori being a cheater getting banned
I move up from 76th to 65th.....

Top 10 players by fleet

1 [HoV] Revenger 124.676 (ACCOUNT TAKEOVER)
2 [C.I] The Flight Of Apollo 111.680 (-)
3 [D.V.D] w89th 98.420 (+5)
4 [HoV] Indijanac 92.784 (-)
5 [C.I] fellas 77.900 (+1)
6 [C.I] bunsky game over 64.567 (NEW ENTRY!!!)
7 [Miners] Dark Angel 63.272 (+3)
8 [HoV] 43zla 62.713 (NEW ENTRY!!)
9 [HoV] John 62.437 (NEW ENTRY!!)
10 [HoV] greg susedski 54.413 (NEW ENTRY!!)
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32 [KTA] lioness666 29.870

kk... Revenger has since last month taken the number 1 fleeting account, so a few changes here. Valkira, now Revenger, maintains the No 1 fleet spot, and Flight of the Apollo keeps rank 2. Revengers original rank 3 fleeting account has been banned, which opens up the top 10 since last month for some changes. W89th has shown some great improvement in fleet, rising from 8th with 71.650 fleets to this months 3rd, having amassed a further 25k worth of fleet oO (one to watch out for guys)
Indijanac seems to have stopped fleeting....built just over 1000 ships this month....begs the question: Is Indijanac still eXe?
Fellas from C.I moves up a notch to 5th from last months 6th NICE
Keyser, Unforgiven and Najgori all drop from the top 10: The reasons for Keysers fall will be obvious soon, Najgori due to his ban....as for Unforgiven... this account was also banned after it was given to Zagy.

Top 10 players by research

1 [Z E N] ogrek 179
2 [GSE] AdmSirRed 174
3 [HzRz] qRac 172
4 [KTA] facemunchers 172
5 [Pinn] Great Magmizmo 172
6 [UFO] tsbs 171
7 [KTA] regguheert 170
8 [Miners] optimus prime5193 170
9 obleak 167
10 [Pinn] bluelens 167
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26 [KTA] lioness666 160

One of the top 10 researchers quit the game! Silverscorpion, last months number 5, has just fallen off the radar...qRac takes 3rd slot from Facemunchers. Tsbs makes a new entry to the top 10, and does it with a bang! Into 6th, from outwith the top 10 last month!
Optimus prime, for all his discussion last month, hasn't researched nothing!!! C'mon Mike.....you promised to make yourself a stable non-tied rank!!! (Even I managed a research, and I'm never online :P)

Alliances by points

1 Miners 39.439.775 22 (1.792.717) (+1)
2 HoV 26.488.215 15 (1.765.881) (-1)
3 KTA 23.721.856 30 (790.729) (-)
4 Miners.W 19.313.423 18 (1.072.968) (-)
5 UFO 17.029.804 16 (1.064.363) (+1)
6 Avalanch 15.476.916 48 (322.436) (+2)
7 MOB 14.304.003 27 (529.778) (-)
8 C.I 12.765.312 8 (1.595.664) (-3)
9 _VA_ 12.001.606 35 (342.903) (+1)
10 GSE 10.858.990 14 (775.642) (-1)

LOLS!!!! This all makes for good reading! Last months Miner departures appear to have rejoined....HoVs banned players see them lose 5 members, and fall back off the number 1 slot.....KTA has pretty much halved its members in the last 6 weeks, yet remain 3rd. Miners wing lost 2 players back to the main alliance, yet remain 4th.
UFO gain another player, and the 5th place along with it! UFO are a future threat to many alliances, don't say you never read it here first!!! CI lose 2 players, and fall 2 ranks in the process. MOB lose 2 players but maintain 7th rank.
GSE and _VA_ swap positions, GSE losing 1 player and _VA_ losing 6

Alliances by Fleet

1 HoV 567.774 15 (37.852) (-)
2 Miners 530.161 22 (24.098) (+1)
3 C.I 448.143 8 (56.018) (-1)
4 KTA 281.412 30 (9.380) (-)
5 UFO 200.670 16 (12.542) (NEW ENTRY)
6 MOB 194.099 27 (7.189) (-1)
7 AA Force 143.210 39 (3.672) (NEW ENTRY)
8 Avalanch 136.218 48 (2.838) (-)
9 Miners.W 113.651 18 (6.314) (-3)
10 MKD 113.201 29 (3.903) (-)

Meh, even with a quarter of their players on the pillory list, HoV still keep the number 1 fleet rank, though suddenly the average doesn't look quite so scary
Miners have proven they can fleet! Lets not mess with these guys eh? Let them build their mines, if you interfere with their gameplay you awaken a demon...!!! Miners have built another 20000 ships since last months report....if you all stupid enough to find out which are cargoes and which ain't, feel free to esp! (I wonder who all watched Dogma a few days back.....Rube and the Miners will do a "loki" on you all: rain sulphur on your asses!)
UFO have made their top 10 arrival....telling you all man, they doing it in style!!! Last month ranked nowhere, this month ranked 5th!!!!
MOB drop to UFO and Avalanche....BTL fall outta the top 10, as do GSE: AA force arrive in the top 10 with another bang! I believe rank 13th for fleet last month, but now rank 7th!

Alliances by research

1 Avalanch 5.921 48 (123)
2 AA Force 4.891 39 (125)
3 KTA 4.288 30 (143)
4 _VA_ 4.258 35 (122)
5 MOB 3.621 27 (134)
6 Miners 3.226 22 (147)
7 THORNS 3.127 26 (120)
8 MKD 3.079 29 (106)
9 THORNS.A 3.035 30 (101)
10 Z E N 2.809 31 (91)

Avalanche enjoy the number one research slot now....KTA held it for pretty much a year...however I have come to accept that quality is better than quantity No other real changes here: MKD fall from 6th to 8th...most probably due to Miners rejoining the main alliance now that HoV is crumbling. Miners return to the top 10 after last months panic stations....a few players jumped ship to the wing to keep safe (pulling the wing into the top 10 last month). ZEN reach the top 10 at last....however this reporter wonders if this ZEN has any of the bottle, courage or stamina of the ZEN in uni 38? Anyone in power in ZEN, please feel free to pm me....I would love to know what you all thinking

HoF's

This month has been a bit mad for HoF's and new top 10 hits! Although we have not had any "first HoF's" posted, We have had 2 new number 1 solos in the space of 9 days, (thanks Keyser for making my job harder :P) also 2 other new entries into the top 10 solos, and 2 new entries in the top 10 ACS.

So: seriously, there have been quite a few note worthy hits this month, so I'm gonna start with a mate of mine! I know he makes hits, and I knew he has a fleet! However, he made his first public post on the boards only yesterday....when he pm'd me to say "look what I did" I rushed to the link! I read it, rubbed my eyes and re-read it....all I could think was "you got that many dessies????" After the fleet shock kicked in, I had to laugh!! HoV player got pwned!!! Ladies and Gentlemen of uni 43, I introduce to you now player -66-, and his top 3 hit!!
-66-[-7-] -vs- CAPO[HoV] ~(TD: 415,06 M)
Capo, anyone whos partner goes into labour is entitled to mess up a fleet save! I'm sure all of uni 43 wishes you and your new family happiness, joy and prosperity! 'Grats on the birth! We hope to hear some feedback from you: size, weight etc Best wishes to your partner also!

Next in the limelight is Greg Susedski and his top 6 solo hit. I personally found this hit quite amusing: The defender had left my alliance when the HoV war was declared, yet he still found himself to be their victim
greg susedski[HoV] -vs- Archer[T M A] ~(TD: 299,96 M)

Ok, the next hit has been brought to you by Keyser Soze of C.I.....This bloke is on a mission folks! He kicked his own butt for Number 1 solo hit 9 days after this one!
Top 01 +rip kill Keyser Soze [C.I] vs Andrew [GSE] (TD: 519.546.000)
Whoever stole his df is gonna pay....to quote BA from the A-Team "I pity the fool...."

The latest newest top 1 uni 43 hit! Once again delivered by Keyser Soze of C.I
New Number One Keyser Soze[C.I] -vs- GAME OVER-KC[.BTL.] ~(TD: 673.75 kk)

If you thought that was the end of Keysers monthly mayhem, think again! He's currently on a HoF rampage, posting some great hits pretty much daily just now! He only got himself included in the top 3 ACS hit for the uni to date also oO
orangepeel6[MINERS] & Keyser Soze[C.I] -vs- Rusty86[HOV] ~(TD: 504.5kk)
Dunno what to make of it all.....Keyser said in one post he is getting bored....is he just having fun before quitting? Either way this was a great war hit for the Miners. I know you'll read this Keyser, so let us know on the discussions section

The final hit I'm going to share with you all is the new 10th spot ACS hit...Miners pulled their fleets and their IPM's together in a massive turtle down smash. Good teamwork guys
RIPKILL SATSMASH LANX TURTLE SOUP ACS RUBE+SAMEK+AIRBORN+GITFACE+INSIGNIA [Miners] v Te-ring-e-ling [STFU] (TD: 344,72 M)

Current Wars

Here is the lowdown : (ended this month)

TJO Vs MKD
This war, although active last month, has since ended due to inactivity.
CRs only: MKD vs TJO

War of Limited Duration: _VA_ vs. AA Force
This war ended on June 23rd, with both sides agreeing to a draw and a temporary 1 month NAP.
CRs only: _VA_ vs. AA Force

Still Active!

Contest War: Miners v HoV
The Miners are kicking butt! I guess it proves the theory that most of the big fleeters of any uni begin life as miners.
CRs only: Miners v HoV

Contest war: KTA Vs HoV
Uhh, what can I really say about this? My alliance is getting their cargoes destroyed on a regular basis just now! FLEETSAVE GUYS, sheesh
I don't suppose it helped with Mr Revenger demanding the contest war rules get changed to make HoV look better than they are actually doing. Kinda pathetic really, the number 1 fleeting alliance threatening to defence bash noobs with nukes cos they were losing too many ships in a fleet contest war :pooryou:
CRs only: KTA Vs HoV

Also, to follow up on last months suggestion that a war between HoV and C.I may start, it actually did! However, there was only 2 CR's posted, and the war ended due to inactivity after only 19 days. I guess the big fleeters were at a kinda stalemate for hitting each other, with fleets of such similar sizes....shame really There coulda been some great posts if these giants had come to real blows!
Contest war: HoV vs C.I.
CR's only: HoV vs C.I.

Interview with CBBK (Miners)

Ok, someone mentioned in last months discussions that an interview with the uni's top player would be good. CBBK had started a rumour that he was gonna quit, so I was unsure if this would go ahead. However, he sent me a pm after reading the report saying he would gladly do an interview, and here it is! Thanks Dan

[font='Comic Sans MS, sans-serif'] (956407): hi:P

lioness001: sup?: CBBK I assume?

CBBK: alright, yep call me dan

lioness001: kk Dan, my name is Andrea

CBBK: cool ntmu

lioness001: So, what you want to discuss for the interview? ntmu 2

CBBK: I really dont mind lol anything you want

lioness001: so, I can just ask you random stuff, you decide if you wanna answer

CBBK: sounds good, i will answer everything

lioness001: Uhh, ok, where do I start?: kk....miners, just how did you all get so good?

CBBK: Mainly, Rube to be honest. If it wasn't for him the alliance wouldn't be anywhere near as good as it is. He puts a lot of effort in to it and maintains peaceful relations with other alliances/ Apart from that I guess its mainly because all our res goes into more mines, so there is not a great deal to crash and we can't lose a lot of points

lioness001: what I mean is...most miners are renowned for doing just that...you guys are obviously making hits also....I hit a few times a week and live off my res production
I figure there is masses of interalliance trading going on then, do any of you use merchants?

CBBK: to my knowledge no-one uses merch much in the alliance, deut mainly gets supplied to the players with big fleets and since the HoV war has been mainly kept inside the alliance. If merchts are used they are mainly gained from exps

lioness001: So, what is your average mine level just now?

CBBK: 34 metal, 28 crystal, 30 deut

lioness001: Holy hell, I need to build more mines!

CBBK: lol

lioness001: Meh, I'm level 30 metal, 26 crys and deut

CBBK: thats still pretty good, as good as revenger's new account according to my esp reports =)

lioness001: I do research eh? my techs are pretty good...higher than most of the fleeters .....need to work on drive techs, my combat techs are 15, 14, 15 just now though

CBBK: nice, my research isnt brilliant. i only really research combat techs now. thats higher than mine though lol, just got to all 14. i think i need to get my combustion up, recs are painfully slow

lioness001: Like I said, I'm a researcher....but it's no cheap, lols. OK, so what would your advice be to any wannabe miners?

CBBK: do you want to know about playing style etc?

lioness001: Yeah....advice for wannabe miner style players, I mean, how can a miner afford to keep building? Do you sell 80% of deut? 90%?

CBBK: Ok lol, well all my mine production gets put into more mines, then anything gained by raiding and fleetcrashing gets split between more fleet and mines. I level everything evenly and calculate what gives the best return for the res cost. To build a decent fleet you need moons at least two and just keep raiding more and more. no never sell deut, I use it for flying my big dessie and bomber fleet across galaxy smashing large turtles

lioness001: Guess thats my main problem... no time to fly, even though I got rank 35 fleet... that is borne through laziness to res save at weekends, lol

CBBK: lol, some of my hits are 48 hours long, i figure its better to keep them all full then waste them and hit some big inactive turtles

lioness001: I can never find those inactive turtles....

CBBK: plenty out in g6-g9

lioness001: Maybe I just need more bombers and dessies... all the inactives I spy on, it seems their mines dont produce after a week, you noticed this problem? I guess its a game glitch.

CBBK: yep i have, not sure what happens there as clearly they dont switch their own mines off

lioness001: I think the game switches their mines off when they show (i) so they cant be farmed continuously.

CBBK: yeah instead of (I) which sucks a bit its rubbish, we need good farms

lioness001: Big time...if they're too lazy to play, they should be able to be farmed. Though I found out recently you can attack destroyed planets and collect half of whatever they had before destruction, pretty cool

CBBK: wow, i have never found anything like that

lioness001: I dunno, I farmed a 2 day inactive near me....for like 2 days I hit all of his planets 6 times a day and wiped him clean. He destroyed all those colonies, I was able to hit the destroyed colonies for another 48 hours! His mines stopped counting after destruction, but there was still res to be had

CBBK: nice going, wish i could find some like that occassionally. well thats certainly good to know, will be on the look out for destroyed planets from now on

lioness001: KK....so the big hit! The top 1 acs, how did that come about?
I guess you were kinda close with HoV players before the war started?

CBBK: well i saw dp fleet on lanx day before, messaged couple people in vicinity including a couple of hov members to acs with them. Saw a couple of HoV mobiles go up in system with dp early next morning. So I saw their fleets on lanx and was in two minds whether to hit one of the HoV members on the return as punishment. scanned revenger, then he invited me in for the hit. so i decided to fly with them instead of finding another acs partner

lioness001: Were you not bothered or worried they would double cross you?

CBBK: no to be honest, HoV have never been particularly close. It was just opportunity presenting itself. yeah i thought they might try it and hit me on the return, but I had two fleets standing by just in case they did

lioness001: oO never keep all your eggs in one basket, I like it

CBBK: never trust anyone outside the alliance, but I figured that the hit was legitmate though as it was new number 1 and they had taken so much trouble to go after him lol

lioness001: Sometimes, you cant trust those in the alliance!
KK Dan, anything else we should discuss? we went over the top 1 acs, advice to miners....what about a little of your real life story?

CBBK: Ok, just finished a degree in accounting and finance and just about to move in with my girlfriend also called andrea, working as an accountant for hsbc at the moment, but I want to go into the police force for armed response.

lioness001: So, how long have you and the gf been together? Any plans for marriage? Kids? And the police????? holy hell!

CBBK: 18 months, planned to get married in about 3 years and getting engaged later this year, and kids just after we get married

lioness001: Aww thats kinda cute really....how old are you anyway? I know you're English

CBBK: 24

lioness001: oO just a baby, sheesh i feel old!! I'm 32

CBBK: thats not old

lioness001: I know, but I feel 50 after a weekend at work...

CBBK: lol, well i really cant blame you the hours you are doing

lioness001: So, why do you want to join the police?

CBBK: because its more exciting than an office job, it will be something different everyday

lioness001: You think they will intro astro now all unis have the redesign implemented?

CBBK: yeah i think they will as its a feature of the redesig and it will make the game exciting for older unis too

lioness001: Maybe....in the new design, in a new uni it is overpriced however for what you get in return

CBBK: yeah defo! its crazy, makes game even slower. bloody stupid

lioness001: I play in Fornax, got astro 9.... that permits me to have homeworld and 5 colonies: astro 10 costs 615.700 metal 1.231M crystal and 615.700 deut: the crystal cost is mad for only 6 planets

CBBK: ridiculous! they should have just made it so you could have 9 planets at the start and each level of astrophysics means that you can have an additional planet

lioness001: It gets better....I need astro 11 to throw up a 6th colony...

CBBK: they should have kept expedition tech lower and lower its cost as you need level 15 just for exp slots which is crazy, its a great alternative to raiding if you have a free slot or two: gf are not listening to the players properly
whats the cost for nine planets then?

lioness001: Like most researches, the cost is double.... with no additional planet to supply additional resources, you are looking at 1.2 mill metal, 2.5 mill crystal, 1.2 mill deut to research just to get a 6th colony
To get a ninth planet you looking at seriously a stupid amount of res just to research it, plus the research time!

[color=#fb8a00] CBBK: thats expensive at that stage. well i am going to bed

is there anything else you would like to know?

[color=#fe0] lioness001: I think I got it down... you gave advice for wannabe miners, your background, what you aspire to do, and your biggest hit...if there is anything else, I'll send you a pm

[color=#fb8a00]CBBK: ok thats cool, thanks for the interview and its nice to talk to you. will have to do it again soon

[color=#fe0] lioness001: Good to chat with you too, thanks for the time. Tell Andrea I'm sorry to keep you away from her loving arms

[color=#fb8a00]CBBK: lol, will do

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[align=center][color=#ffff99]To Wokeg and the guys from _VA_, thanks for the group interview you gave, but with your war over now I decided not to use it for fear of starting a flame war. With that, I'm gonna sign off for the month. Hope you all enjoy the read, and feel free to pm me ingame or on the boards if you have something you'd like to share for the next report. (Remember it doesn't always need to be game related! The players make the game, so if someone gets married or has a kid, feel free to report it)

Discuss it here! Thanks for reading

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nischu interviews Lawless + lostcause shows off most wanted players/alliances (November 13th, 2012)

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GNN revival, uni1 October - November edition

Hello there, i am nischu, your friendly neighborhood miner and i am one of the few that are currently trying to revive the GNN project.. Some of you remember it, some dont..

I will try to release a "paper" or what ever you want to call it, once per month and it will be released around the middle of the month depending on the news and how i am working etc..

So without any further due, heres the first for a long time from uni1..

Quote The end of October seemed to be nothing out of the ordinary, we saw a glimpse of Geromoto's disco ball's Geromoto vs xl G Virus lx which sadly ended in a goodbye from the defending side. Guido from TBL11 got a few hits done on urza (which i am waiting to see the consequences from)


But when the month seemed to be over Eddie posts on the HoF forums, this totally dropped my jaw on the table.. Cimbi31 vs Eddie - Total Damage: 47.546.921.000, I always thought that Eddie was one of the "untouchables" so to say, smart playing, skills etc.. But there it was "At these space coordinates now float 8.507.297.700 metal and 4.707.088.800 crystal", most of Eddies fleet and a part from cimbi's fleet..
The future will tell us if there will be some sort of revenge hit..... And I guess this hit will stay in the top10 for a very long time..


The beginning of November brought some smaller players on the front pages with Lawless hitting pietruch22 in a nice 350mil+ profit war hit, which brings us to the interview of the month..


This man shouldnt need introducing, the man behind the war going on.. Novembers mr. interview, Leader of the Alliance MoD, Lawless..


nischu: hey!
Lawless: Howdy!


at this point we had a small wrong turn and the interview didnt continue for 8-9mins due to some irrelevant chit chat..


nischu: So.. starting a war in uni1, was this idea entirely yours or did your friends have something to do with this?
Lawless: Well I originally came here just looking to get back into playing after a 5 year break from the game, I posted up looking for an alliance but after about a week nobody
invited me so I contacted other people who had posted up in the thread about setting up an alliance. Fortunately they hadn't been contacted by anyone either so I got them on board creating a new
war alliance to have a bit of fun in.


nischu: Did the war begin the second you made that alliance or did it come after you had settled in?
Lawless: I think it was about 5-6 days after we set up the alliance before we opened our first thread.
nischu: Well wars are always fun, spices up things and keeps even us miners alert as now our deut is even more wanted
Lawless: Exactly, nothing like a war to encourage some activity and get a few of the old bones creaking!


nischu: Iv been talking with a few players in the past weeks and a few think that starting a war with so many other alliances you are trying to "hide" a revenge hit somewhere,
and after someone talked about it even I think it could be a possibility that someone would hide their revenge within a war against 5 alliances.
Lawless: People could say that! Unfortunately with the fleet at the low size I have it makes revenge difficult to do on most of the people that are still playing all those years ago.
For a smaller account like mine war can be profitable and can help you rise the fleet ranks quickly, great for putting you in a position to get back at anyone who you might want to hit back at in the future


nischu: Im just quickly looking at your allaince and I can see you got 11 members. Has the recruitment been succesfull? Are there people joining on a regular basis for some friday night action?
Lawless: Yeah, its been great so far! We've had a great response from newer players wanting some advice and a bit of help to get settled into the universe and others
wanting to exercise their fleeting skills against some of the universes best alliances/players. We've also had people donate accounts when leaving which has been awesome, to pass on an account to a new
player who has learnt the ropes is a great way to continue the activity of the universe. The thing we have been lacking is larger fleeted players, they seem to take some convincing before they decide to
join, even though we accept temporary members. Hopefully with the HoFs on the board we can turn a few heads and get some active large fleets on board.


nischu: Are they all "just temporary" or are they all considered permanent members?
Lawless: At the moment all are permanent members but anyone is free to come and go as they please, we don't have a strict leadership structure and
prefer to offer people flexible options with membership.


After this the chat took again a wrong turn and we started to talk about their nower ranked players, which was a nice story but not todays topic.. 10minutes later....


nischu: I fast scrolled through the war thread and I couldnt see conditions to end the war.. are there any?
Lawless: Thats the problem with Standard Wars. They end with surrender or inactivity normally, name changes are few and far between. Current terms are unfortunately just that.
Initially we had looked to set up contest wars or ones of limited duration, however these require the other alliances to agree, something we couldn't see
any of the top 10 alliances doing against an alliance like us.


Yet again, we derailed from the topic to tale telling etc.. but just for a couple of minutes..


nischu: You guys have been quite busy hitting small hits over the universe, is there a TD somewhere?
Lawless: I've been keeping a tab on it, as of now it stands at:
MoD - 372.886.000 [3 HoFs]
-vs-
Everyone Else - 48.886.500 [0 HoFs]
nischu: So, you are keeping the lead on that
Lawless: Yeah, as it stands we are trying to get each member in MoD to do more damage than their fleet is worth, that way ensuring victory on the TD side!


nischu: So you have been effective in lighting up other players overview screens with espionages and attacks, how about on your side? 100 messages after a good nights sleep?
do you get alot of attention by the top players?
Lawless: Unfortunatly the traffic seems to be pretty one way at the moment, I normally wake up to around 10-15 probes, despite hitting top 100 players as and when we can.
For us its a matter of keeping up the ankle biting until they decide to try and swipe us away.
Lawless: One character I'd like to highlight from the rest though is Judge from Oldskool, a great sport. Relocated to pop one of my moons.
Ninja'ing those rips and dodging 12k battleships was the best fun I've had in the game in years! Hopefully others will follow in his footsteps and join the hunt for my fleet...


nischu: For the final question, what are the next steps in this war? are you planning on popping some moons and go for something bigger? something from behind the scenes for the readers.
Lawless: Short term we are looking at stepping up the heat on some of the bigger players to encourage more of a response, whilst continuing to be a pain on the HoF boards.
We are also starting to get bigger fleets onboard and even bigger fleets tracked and mapped. Moons will be shot out of the sky, fleets will crash and burn, and top 10's should continue to flow.


Lawless: We have a number of large fleets acting on information we provide already but the more the merrier
nischu: so you got mercenaries?
Lawless: a whole army of them, and we pay very well!


nischu: Well that was all I had on my mind, I will have to make this into a something more readable format, but you can expect it to be released asap
Lawless: Glad I could be of service


That was the interview of the month, he wanted me to add that they are looking for new blood (and old) to participate in refreshing this uni by joining the war..
Let's hope the war will continue for some time so more and more alliances participate in this.


Lets get back to where we left before the interview..


Just a couople of days ago SoT was working on a MD, after that he was getting timed back by pinky. This lead to SoT asking for deneb for help which ended in dened crashing SoT.. complicated ehh? thats what I got from the HoF post, dont know whats true and whats now, it has become rather complicated to follow due to name changes and some players using different names on the boards and the game, even I have a hard time following who's who sometimes when 1 player can have multiple names.. But this is probably the hit that has raised most discussion in a long time, cimbi31 vs cimbi312faced and this is gonna be interesting to follow.. I dont really know who I should pat on the back on this one, youd think big hits are becoming more scarse by the day but sure doesnt seem like it..


Otherwise it has been a very quiet month in uni1, no CR's outside of the HoF section in 2weeks, some small chitter chatter on the MoD war thread and even the trade section only has denebs "in search of 1.000.000.000 deut" thread that has been having some attention..


So with these news i call it a busy month, let's hope the new event week that will bring us more metal/crystal income will turn into something to discuss about for next month edition..
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Most Wanted Players

Rank Name Views

1 cimbi31 840

2 Eddie 484

3 cimbi312faced 230

4 no 88 210

5 Lawless 200

6 pinky 187

7 Furyan 163

8 M G 135

9 CRAZYHORSE 117

10 NikeJoshua 110

11 V3NUS75701 105

12 Graf Zahl 102

13 Geromoto 95

14 Merchant Of Death 89

15 TheKronikOne 85

16 Harvestor 80

17 Exile 78

18 Guido 72

19 Radeon 72

20 Paarthurnax 70

Most Wanted Allys

Rank Name Views

1 TBL11 226

2 MoD 205

3 RoLUE 150

4 TPR 104

5 BunnyInc 103

6 IVI IVI 94

7 FrSt 86

8 TheGang 69

9 EVOLVE! 53

10 SYN 51

11 TSE 42

12 Pirates 40

13 LEGEND 37

14 Oldskool 36

15 Knights 33

16 JeB 33

17 PreDatoR 30

18 _VA_ 30

19 PAX 27

20 RUnity 27

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Wraith02 Celebrates 8 Years of JeB In Universe 1 (September 22nd, 2012)

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8 years ago today..

A lovely little friend of mine persuaded myself and a few other members of a Star Wars message board we frequented to try out the new English server of a German browser game she had been playing.

With the server being quite new (having opened 13.09.04.. yes .orgs 8th birthday was on 9 days ago, but GF didn't want to do anything for it.. not even a congratulations post.. anyway I digress..) the player numbers were very low (550 players registered when i signed up, my account being the 549th account.) since then things exploded upwards.. hitting the 15k mark within 6 months then stayed steady for a while before the inevitable decline that we saw..

Anyway, the same day of our account creation the afore mentioned friend also created what is to my knowledge the oldest, still active alliance in .org, JeB, named after our friends message board, JediBites, where the founding members came from. Due to the rule against Germans playing in the early my friend had to hand over the reigns of the alliance to me after just a few days, or risk her German account being banned, She also handed her account over to someone else and turned her focus over to lending her experience to the fledgling community that was the O-forum, where she quickly became an important part of the community.

For those of those who didn't already know, the friend that I mentioned took on the alias Cassandra Vandales, who you might have heard of.. *cough*. little did I know what she would be getting me into back then.

anyway, I've rambled a lot..

what I wanted to say was, with the 8th birthday of my account (the 3rd oldest im aware of in .org, the other is NtDMx (Xorms original account I believe) and The_Doctor (the old Bukoton Dope's account)) with mine also oldest account with its original owner), and my alliance (the oldest alliance) I'd like to say a thank you to everyone over the years. While there are so many that have disappeared over the years there are still a lot that are still about.

whether you've been an alliance mate, a occasional or regular trade partner, a ingame friend, an ally, a rival, an enemy, a fellow team member or someone that just hated me.. you've all made the last 8 years what they have been, and the vast majority of it i wouldnt change, even if I could.

so thank you one and all..

and happy ogaming to those that still play.

now its time for this old man to go off and have his nap...

Reply from Cassandra Vandales:

Happy Birthday JeB

I still remember the glory old days back then with so few players and a small board to help out with.

If there was an alliance I'd return to it was JeB of course. And I even knew back then that this alliance was in the best of hands.

Cheers!

And hey - LITTLE? oO

Reply from bibob:

Ha Ha, you're old

*pokes the lil-un*

Reply from AMOTION:

Happy birthday JeB I can't believe this community has been around as long as it has... I've been here a little over 7 years and it doesn't feel near like it most of the time.

Reply from Skull:

Congratz Wraith, keep showing your hi class ingame with JEB.

I play 7 years here since December 2005 and i love see my old friends and enemys around.

Skull > Old Uni1

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There was apparently an old Roleplay section that was freshly christened by trolling RoLUEsers (who did seem to be following the rules, albeit not being in any way serious about it and only making a vaguely connected story one sentence at a time) but that other users of olden times used more seriously. I only recognized a few users from back then so their stories will be shared here too.

Godfather8769 Roleplay Story (May 1st, 2005)

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My Destiny(First RP story, be nice)

(The setting is the planet Baranq, where the reign of the Teutorian's has lasted several of thousands of years. Emperor Av and his Empresse Cam are awaiting the arrival of there first born son. Little to there knowledge, there son has been destined to be the savior of not only his homeworld, but also the human race as we know it today.)

*18 years pass*

(As the years passed, the young man we now know as Godfather has been brought into this world knowing he was different. As the other kids were out playing, he was out training. His protector always speaking of the hidden truth.

Though not fully aware of what was happening around him, Godfather knew that when the time came, he would be ready. He mentally prepared himself for whatever it was that he was destined to do)

: A cold night :

Like any other normal night, I went to bed wondering. It seemed that if I was not constantly wondering and thinking, then the sleep would never catch up to me. As I lay in my bed I feel a sudden tremble. This is odd to me since my homeworld is not in a posistion to have tremors.

I slowly become tense with another tremble in my quarters. I rise to my feet, eyes closed, and listening. I enter a state of peace, my ears my protectors. Then from out of nowhere, I hear the sound I have been dreading my entire life.

Ships pass over the castle. There seems to be an infinite number of them just wizzing by. My heart beats rapidly, knowing that Baranq is a peacefull settlement with only minimal defenses, I run to the military base.

The Commander has already activated all shields and weaponry. I see our Air Wing assimilate into there ships, I ask the Commander if there is room for one more.

Godfather: Commander, I know what I must do. But I will not disobey your orders

Commander: You have been preparing for this your entire life, who am I to take that from you? We have just recently has our scientist look into new research. We have made a proto-type ship. Not many exist, and its power is still unresearched.

Godfather: Sir, the honor would be all mine.

Commander: Go suit up son, your people now depend you.

With the blessing of the Commander, I head over to the new ship. The distant sounds of life ceasing to exist, bombs, and mortars drive me to win this battle myself.

The ship is a shiny black, bigger then anything I had ever seen. On the side of it, it read "XL424-Destroyer". I entered the ship, and prepared to fight for my home.

I turned the com links on, the most recent battle report read:

.: Attacker : 250 strong fleet, made up of Fighters, Cruise Ships, and Battle Ships:.

.: Defender :. 175 strong fleet, made up of Fighters, Cruise Ships, and Battle ships. Defenses: 80 strong, made up of Missles, Lasers, and Ion:.

Little did the opposistion know, that I was packing a damn big gun. I engage the ship, put all engines at full speed and head out. My first instinct was to go for there big gunners. Having paid attention in Military Logistics class, I knew the weakeness and strengths of almost every ship.

Not knowing my ships full capabilities, I decide to go for some Fighters to test things out first. I head for a group of about 10 Fighters. They notice me coming, and after first getting over the shock of this new ship, they start there fire on me. I lock on to there lead man, I engage my ship onto his end. The end result being complete destruction.

After seeing the power of my ship, the platoon slowly starts to flee. Knowing that they are no match for my superior fire power they go to hide behind there Battle Ships. Curious to see my ships strength, I engage with the Battle Ships. After taking some brutal blows, I see that they are not to be taken lightly.

I call for reinforcements, a blockade of Fighters and Cruise ships will help us take there big guys out. Seeing that our Defense had almost been obliterated(only a few lasers and ions remained) I knew that victory was going to be dependent on the fleet, and the skill at which each fleet was operating at.

My reinforcements finally arrived. We startegize to take out the main Battle Ship platoon. This was the key to success.

Godfather: I want all Fighters and Cruise ships to head to the front!! Battle ships, I need you to counter there fleet design. Head off, then veer to the back. If you can take out there fodder ships, then we have this thing won!!

Fighter and Cruise Leaders: (simultaneously) 10-4, we are on target!

Battle Ship Leader: Yes sir! Hopefully we can get some shots in on there Battle Ships as well to weaken the load!!

With our strategy in place, we all head out to do our mission.

First the blockade of Fighters and Cruise ships works perfectly. They enable me to decimate a large portion of there Battle Ship fleet. What was unknowing to me at the time, was that they had picked up on our Battle Ship plan, and had set a trap.

Our Battle Ships arrive from the back, only not to be greeted by fodder ships, but by another platoon of Battle Ships, mixed with fodder ships.

Seeing this I rush to there aid. We pull back from our current mission, and head over to help our Battle Ships. Needing to know what was left in both our fleets, I demand to our scientist to put in the rest of the little resources we had left into some new technology.

Godfather: I need that read out now!!!

Scientist: We have put the resources in, but you must give us time. It shall be done in mear minutes.

Godfather: We do not have minutes! Our men our dying, and our ships are being destroyed. We need this information ASAP! Or niether one of us will have to worry about tomorrow.

Scientist: We are working as fast as we can, you shall see in your ship when it is done. God speed!

(I'll leave it there for now, I'll write more later. Please, any critiques are welcome, but please do not flame. Love me or hate me, please judge this writing for what it is. If you do not like me, that doesn't mean you have to dislike what I write, and be a dick about it. Hope it was enjoyable!)

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DJ Delta Roleplay Story (October 17th, 2005)

Part 1

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The Beginning of a civilization

This will be mostly done in third person but may creep into first person when certain things are happening as i have a tendancy to do that :p

ok lets get it started.

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The settlers colony ship, 2 large cargos and 1 transport ship emerged from hyperspace into a new solar system. After a brief scan they determined that none of the planets were inhabited and all were very big and would be great for their new empire.

The settlers had been forced to leave their home world as it had been over run by their mortal enemy the Zyons. They were hoping to setup a new empire and one day hit back at the Zylons.

The settlers landed and they had managed to bring along with them some scientists and also vitally important pilots and soldiers. The soldiers were first out of the transport ship and managed to secure the area within an hour. Next the workers and scientists were allowed off the transport ship and the large cargos and colony ship started to unload their resources so the construction of facilities could begin.

The construction workers and scientists immediatly began work and the rest of the people on the transport ships were made to clear some trees and fill sandbags so the soldiers could make some defensive positions to protect the new settlers incase there was any natives on the planet who didnt like the idea of other beings colonising their planet.

3 days later......................

The new settlers had managed to achieve alot in the 3 days they had been on the new planet they had managed to clear a 25 square mile patch of land for living and building and also managed to bring in enough food from the surrounding wildlife and vegetation to provide them for a month. The scientists were already busy scanning the local terrain and the construction workers had already started to build a solar plant which was already looking impressive, the foundations for a shipyard and depot were already there and they had also began building houses and storages facilities.

The settlers seemed very happy with their new home world and the pilots had managed to remove the 5 remaining light fighters they had and make them fly. They had discovered vast debris fields as though a huge fleet battle had taken place here but the metal and steel was very well rusted and they had figured it must have happened hundreds on years ago. They then decided it was in their best interests to get a recycler built as soon as possible and start harvesting the debris to see if they could use any of it.

A couple of weeks later................

The planet was now bustling and had many new buildings. The first metal mines were now working and ploughing out hundreds of tons of metal per week. The crystal mines were also working at the same capacity and the newly built deuterium mines had struck it lucky and found great deposits of deuterium. There was also now sections for housing and millitary sections. They had a fully constructed shipyard and depot now and even had docking platforms. Recyclers were wizzing out to the debris field all day and night and everybody had a job to do. The shipyard had also had an extension built that was just building fighters and 2 new types of ship that the scientists had designed with brand new engines. The fighters had also been given these new engines which were impulse engines and radically increased the amount of speed the ships could now travel at. The new ships that were being built were huge and a completly different extension had to be built for each type of ship.

The first of the new ships was ready take off after 3 weeks of building and at 12 noon rose into the sky. The scientists had named it Cruiser. This ship had advanced weapons and had a crew of 500. The other ship that was being constructed was a Carrier and could hold approximatly 250 fighters and had a crew of 700 + 250 pilots. The settlers had been ready to create defensive structures and every man and woman was trained in using the rifles that the soldiers used. Missiles turrets and small laser turrets had been popping up all over the mountain sides and it was clear these new settlers were making good use of the resources and natural defensive positions they had available to them.

A few months later............

A few months into the settlers new lives on this planet and they had expanded rapidly and now new settlers were appearing. 2 transport ships full of people had landed and requested to join this new colony. They had been accepted in and you could see the different they made straight away. New faces had also started to appear in the terms of babies. 57 new children had been born since they had settled and the needs for hospitals and so on were now realised. The scientists had also been busy working not just designing new ships new engines weapons and other fighting things they had also been bringing out vaccines and medicines for new diseases that were on the planet.

The houses and other public places were now completly seperated from the millitary and industrial parts of the now city. They had developed so rapidly that they had to move the houses and other civilian buildings away from the original landing sites as these sites were now buzzing with mines solar plants and of course the millitary side of things.

The shipyard had completly refurbished to accomodate another 4 new designs of ships. These were The BattleCruisers, BattleShip, BattleStar and the Destroyer. The battlecruisers were basically a mix between a Cruiser and a Battleship and the BattleStar was an upgrade of the Battleship but it could also accomodate 2000 fighters. The Battlecruiser had a crew of 1000 and the Battleship had a crew of 1500. The Battlestar was the biggest and had a crew of 3000. Although the Destroyer was the mother of all ships it had only a crew of 1200 and could accomodate 150 fighters.

The fleet for the settlers had grown rapidly along with their infastructure but now they were starting to slow down as the reality of the task ahead set in. They also had defences that were in space.

Little did they know that there biggest challenge yet was just around the corner.

Ill continue it later as im going out for a drink with a few friends now

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ok next part here we go

It was a cold very cold night and 2 men were watching the deep space scanners when they noticed one blip on the screen then 2 then 5 then 19 then there was to many to count. Immediatly they called the chief of the watch and he in turn called the admiral. The admiral was in the scanner room within 5 minutes and within 15 minutes he had called all men to General Quaters and every other man and boy from the age of 15 to their posts. Each man and boy who werent in the fleet had a defensive position that they were to hold at all costs.

Within 2 hours the whole fleet was mobilized, every man and boy was at their stations with more ammunition than enough and every ship in the fleet had taken its position. The planetery defences had also been activated and the solar plants and all the mines had been shut down. Every other civilian had been evacuated into the shelters. The cargo ships had taken all the metal and other resources except for deuterium and had made the jump into another system to wait for word of the battle.

As the hours past everyone on the planet got anxious. The admiral was in his flagship Invincible and was waiting for the enemy to advance. Three hours later the enemy fleet started to move forward. There was a mist on the radar screens coming towards them thats when they realised they were the enemy fighters. The admiral ordered all Vipers to be launched from the carrier ships and all ships to open fire on the enemy fighters. The cruisers chain guns started firing out 50 calibre uranium rounds and could be seen making contact with their targets. Then the vipers engaged the enemy fighters and after 2 minutes of skirmishing the admiral ordered all vipers return to carriers for re-arm refuel and repair. As the vipers made their way back to the carrier ships the big gun battleships opened fire on the enemy battleships and the battlestar's spilled out their loads of vipers. As the vipers entered the effective range of the enemies cruisers they were ripped to shreads. When the admiral saw what was happening he immediatly ordered all ships to advance and as soon as the carriers vipers were ready to launch immediatly. As the admirals ships got into range of the enemy guns the vipers spilled from the cruisers once again. One nuke rocked the admirals flagship then another and another. One more and the Invincible would be destroyed. As the next nuke was inbound a viper suddenly went into its path and took the hit. The vipers were forming up around the Invincible to protect it from enemy fire. The admiral couldnt believe the courage of his fighters he ordered all ships full impulse and to fire into the enemy ranks. He ordered if they couldnt destroy them by blowing them up then they were to ram them.

The battle had now been going on for 3 hours and neither side seemed to be winning. The admiral ordered all battleships crusiers and carriers to retreat to within the planets defenses and the vipers were to cover thie retreat. The vipers did just this and then returned to the carrier ships. The only problem with them being so close to their planet now the enemy was releasing pod after pod of their soldiers which were skillyfully manouvered. The soldiers and men on the ground prepared for ground combat. As soon as the pods landed each pod was surrounded by 25 to 30 men and as soon as the entrance opened they unleashed burning hot lead into pods and massacred any of the men inside. The missile launchers and other planetery defences were firing on the pod and bringing alot of them down but they just seemed to keep coming. There was too many of them and the enemy soldiers soon started forming up and assaulting the defensive positions on the planet. The bunkers were spilling 30 calibre machine gun fire into the advancing enemy soldiers. The planets soldiers were making counter attacks and then the enemy soldiers were doing the same. After 17 hours of fierce confrontations the remaining enemy soldiers were holed up in cetain buildings and bunkers throughout the city.

In space the fight was over and the remaining enemy ships had surrendered to the planeterys vessels. The recyclers were buzzing out to the newly created debris fields and the damaged and captured vessels were being brought to the space repair station Taikwonteropa. In all the casualties in the fleet fight in terms of ships were:

Settlers Losses:

17893 Vipers

14 Cruisers

26 Battlecruisers

117 Battleships

14 Battlestars

Enemy Losses:

35852 Fighters

289 Cruisers

526 Battleships

In terms of loss of life the losses were:

Settlers Losses:

About 50,000 (Unconfirmed)

Enemy Losses:

100,000+ (Unconfirmed)

Losses on the ground had also been very heavy for both sides.

Settlers Loses:

15,000 soldiers killed

30,000 wounded

3,000 Civilians Killed or Wounded

Enemy Losses:

52,000 Killed or wounded.

However great the losses the main thing was that the settlers had passed their first big challenge and were already planning a counter attack.

It was mandatory that the planetery defences stay on Red ALERT for the next 24 hours and any ships in working condition stay in battle formation. 3 hours after the battle had finished the civilians were allowed out of the shelters and the body collection and repairs had began. The admiral limped his wounded ship into the #1 Repair Dock on the planets surface and watched as hoards of engineers and other personnel swamped it to take off the wounded and start the repairs. As the damaged ships began to be repaired new ones were also being constructed in the construction bays.

The joint chiefs had already been planning a counter attack and as soon as the fleet was repaired they would strike, but they did not know what they were to expect in their first offensive mission and what tactics to use ........................................................

My minds kinda blank atm so ill do more when i can think of what to write.

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Baalphegor / Logbo / Death 32 Roleplay Story (January 3rd through 27th, 2006)

Baalphegor Part 1

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[UrQuan] Somewhere in the darkness....

Somewhere out there. There was a darkness that found light. And in that light, there was hope. And in that hope, existed a belief. That there was a reason, to return.....

The fallen leader of one of the most glorious empires this universe has ever known, finds herself wakening in the cold darkness. As she reaches out with her mind to her former brothers and sisters, she finds herself wondering if she has been gone to long. Her Alliance has moved on, joining with others and forgetting thier former selves. Now she is alone and forced to start over once more, one planet at a time, to earn the respect she had so diligently fought for once upon a time. A respect she held more dear then her own morals. Where are her allies and friends now? And do they even remember her name?

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As Baalphegor's mind reached out to her brothers of the Urquan, she was greeted with such jubilation that she actually felt her cold heart stir with something of remorse for having left them for the cold dark sleep.

She set her attentions on a new colony, quietly rebuilding in the darkest cold of one of the desolate solar systems. Listening as her brothers slowly rallied around her, anxiously anticipating her rise within the Urquan Heirarchy once more. Her allies reach out to her as well, offering thier assistance.

Remembering the rise and fall of one of the most beloved leaders this Universe has ever known. She is welcomed into the open arms of her allies and cloaked by thier protection. A warm calm falling over her alien body as she realises she is once more home.

Building.. remembering.. preparing...

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Baalphegor Part 3

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The orders are sent out and her colony begins to grow. She watches with patient eyes as her brothers and allies continue to welcome her back into thier fold.

The nice sky lights up over and over again as ships from the furthest reaches of the galaxy arrive at her home. Offering her gifts and promises and whisper to her soft encouragement, inviting her out of her dark shell.

She is wary of the attention, keeping her attention to the night sky at all times. Waiting for the first of unwanted visitors to arrive. Those who know of her return, but do not welcome it. For every loyal comrad she encounters, she knows there are hundreds waiting to cause her fall once more.

Like a fawn first standing after escaping his mothers womb, the Empresse reaches out into her system, expanding. Hoping to remain under the radar of her enemies. Unsteady and unaware of her surroundings. Knowing she can only remain under the protection of her brothers for so long.

Before even they expect her to prove.. that she is... Urquan...

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The Former allies of the Mighty UrQuan Empire look over and see this new light growing in the distant part of the universe where the once powerfull UrQuan stood strong... The former allies take note of Baalphegor rising to power once again, and a sence of normality returns a comfort lost long ago when the Mighty UrQuan begain to crumble.

That comfort allthough being little more than a stirring in the very bottom of our souls continues to grow.

The Allies wonder will the Empress Baalphelgor rise again?

Will that which was once feard be feard again?

This Former ally awaits his calling.

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Hanging over his trophy pit filled with bones of species he extincted personally, Death 17 suddenly freezes.

This feeling... A memory...

Could it be true? Has the Empress returned? Will she be able to spiritually reunite the two subspecies?

Although relations between the UrQuan KohrAh and their brothers the UrQuan KzerZa had slightly improved lately, there still was not much hope of overcoming all the old feelings of mistrust and hate.

Would the Empress rise again and spiritually reunite these once so glorious Empires and lead them to a glorious new future?

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Baalphegor Part 6

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The Empresse stretches amongst her new found confines. A glow about her as she looks from side to side.. as if seeing into the ages of darkness on either side.

Her breathern are there. Waiting. They feel her, sense her, taste her presence as they themselves continue with thier nightly routine. The space between them dark. But that sense of unity remains as thier Empresse.. one whom united a forever bickering line of Urquan... returns to thier space and time.

the Kzer za... what happens now...the battle thralls have moved.. to come to new names.. to follow our war mongering brothers...

Brothers I love... brothers I honor.. do you? Are you ready? for the future?

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Death32's History of UrQuan (January 22nd, 2006)

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[UrQuan] Brief History

The UrQuan are large centipede like sentient creatures that evolved from creatures that were solitary hunters on their harsh home planet. They had a limited set of social behaviors, most of which dealt with reproduction, and otherwise would fight to the death if two UrQuan got within a few meters of each other. They were fiercely territorial, and evolved tool use and intelligence to compete against physically superior species. And thus, they built a society and eventually advanced into the space age.

While they were still using crude atomic vehicles to explore their system, the UrQuan were discovered by the Taalo. At first, the UrQuan saw the Taalo as invaders, and attacked them. However, the Taalo were patient, and explained the Sentient Milieu, which they were members of, and offered the UrQuan membership. The UrQuan joined, and became productive, cooperative members for thousands of years. They mostly served the Milieu as scouts and explorers, and flew single ships which landed on a million worlds. They were also the members of the Sentient Milieu most active in finding Precursor artifacts.

All of this, however, changed with the coming of the Dnyarri. This small sized, amazingly psychically strong race was encountered during the Sentient Milieu's exploration of the galaxy, and the Dnyarri quickly seized on the opportunity for galactic conquest that had been presented to them, and used their psychic powers to dominate the minds of the races of the Milieu. All save the Taalo, whose bizarre physiology rendered them immune.

The Dnyarri used the dominated UrQuan as a weapon, ordering them to dispose of the other races in the Milieu, and in a final act of damnation, the UrQuan were forced to destroy their only friends, the peace loving Taalo. As the UrQuan battle-fleet rode high in space above the Taalo home-world, the Taalo race gave voice to a great outcry of rage and despair, asking the UrQuan "Hold! What you do is wrong! Why do you do this thing?", or as the UrQuan were to later term this, The Words of Now and Forever.

Thus began the long enslavement of the Ur-Quan to the Dnyarri. The Dnyarri used selective breeding to create in effect two races of Ur-Quan: green UrQuan bred for intelligence and used as managers and scientists, and black UrQuan, bred for viciousness and combat ability and used as soldiers. Eventually, a green scientist, KzerZa, discovered that moments of extreme pain broke the hold of the Dnyarri. Working forward from this, KzerZa devised the Excruciator, a small device fitted to the central nervous system of an Ur-Quan, that when activated sent horrendous pain shooting through the creatures nervous system. Equipped with these, a successful rebellion was staged, and the UrQuan were again masters of their destiny.

As for the Dnyarri, they were treated under the domination of the UrQuan as they had treated their former slaves: they were bred in such a way that made them useful to the UrQuan. With genetic engineering removing their intelligence, their psychic abilities made them useful as universal translators. Hence their new name, "Talking Pets."

Upon their re-entry to the galactic community, however, the UrQuan discovered a difference of opinion within their own ranks. While all UrQuan were in agreement that other races could possibly dominate or hurt the UrQuan, and thus represented a clear and present danger that was worthy of preemptive attention, there was much disagreement as how the situation should be resolved: black UrQuan wished to begin a campaign of destruction, slaying any race they came across (The Eternal Doctrine). Green UrQuan, no less embittered by their brutal treatment at the hands of the Dnyarri perhaps remembered what genocide was like. They instead argued a more "humane" treatment, with a brutal campaign of military conquest waged against each race encountered, with two options offered at the conclusion: surrender of all colonies, and imprisonment on their home-world under a planet wide forcefield (a slave shield) in a state of pre-atomic savagery; or inclusion in a subordinate capacity as slave soldiers in the UrQuan Hierarchy of Battle Thralls. This became known as The Path of Now and Forever.

No suitable agreement could be reached among the two factions, with each taking the name of a revered member: greens naming themselves after the developer of the Excruciator (KzerZa) and blacks calling themselves KohrAh. A settlement was finally agreed upon: each race would move in an opposing direction across the galaxy, enacting its plan as it went. When they each met again, a great conflict would ensue (The Doctrinal Conflict) with the winning faction gaining the ability to enact their vision for the universe on a galactic scale with the prize: The SaMatra, a Precursor battle platform.

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And now on to something different

TheSystem's Guide For n00bs

Part 1 (May 22nd, 2007)

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The n00b's Guide to Ogame

The n00bs Guide to ogame

Chapter 1

The Beginning

Ocrack Free Life:

Ah, what a joy it is to be alive, hanging out with friends, going to school (-18); College or work (+18). Simply enjoying "Life". Ah!! Life is Sweet. Then, One day, all that changes, and you are introduced to Ocrack. This weird and white powder-like substance seemingly similar to Heroin, is far more dangerous, because once in your eyes and ears, this substance gets you addicted to Ogame.

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Starting Up:

It is your first encounter with Ogame.The luring ship on the intro page. TheVivid blue background, the white mass of words, and the " Register" button... You can actually hear it calling out in it's low and mystical voice " Press Me!!!"... You HAVE to do it.

And just like that, you register. Then it's time to open your account. Hungrily you wait for your first look at Ogame... Then... You're In...

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Baby Steps:

* Overview:

First we start with the overview page.. My god it's so shiny, especially the picture of the bright planet. Of course since you have no one helping you, you start clicking left and right trying to figure out what to do.

You 'Accidentally' hit the "Help" Button, but of course you are in no need of help, so you immediately close that :).

After finishing with the overview screen it's time to move on to the next best thing:

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* Buildings

One simple click and you move on to the buildings screen.

With "So much resources" ( 500 metal, and 500 crystal) you get confused what to do. Metal mines?? Crystal ? Maybe deut or even solar?? Deut is the coolest, so deut it is.

You spend 30 min in the buildings screen waiting for each building to finish until you are left with no resources, and a mix of buildings that is just to much to even look at .... X_X.

Now that we're finished here it's time to move on to better stuff...

Want to know what is gonna happen to our little n00b.. Stay tuned for the next " N00b's Guide to Ogame"...

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Part 2 (June 30th, 2007)

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The n00b's Guide to Ogame (2)

Well ladies and gentlemen, the report you've been waiting for.... The n00b's guide to Ogame Chapter 2.

N00b's Search

Last time we left our little n00b searching through the menu bar, but he did not continue his search... Indeed our little n00b got bored, but Human Curiosity overwhelms everything . And so He opens his account to continue his gaming. But this time he is surprised... For the amount of resources that he has is far greater than what he started out with!!! This is fun game after all...

And so he continues his quest, but first back to buildings!!! As you remember our little n00b had made a couple of buildings, but change is good , and he now has enough resources to make a "Metal Storage". What does it do? Who cares it's picture is AWESOME!!!Of course seeing as the Storage takes some time to finish so our little n00b has the chance to check out the galaxy view...

Oh what wonders lie behind that button... Will he be able to see REAL GALAXIES!! Or maybe relocate his planet from galaxy to another!?!... Let's find out !!

*Click* and he's in!!

A new page opens... a page filled with slots!! And look there !! Planets ...

Quote Can I see the buildings on them!? Let me click on it !!

Unfortunately for him only a bar opens.. but look there .. yeah look closely WRITINGS!!!

Now you all know what they mean ... but not him !! So let's see them from his perspective:

-Espionage: Espionage consists of sending probes to see what other people have ... but our n00b doesn't even know what probes even are, so in his head this is just a way to see what buildings the other one has !!

Quote WOW, SWEET I wanna See what he has!!!

Too bad he can't ... see that it says not enough fleet or else he would have gotten some clue!! Some people just don't wanna read...

-Attack :

Quote Oh this looks worrying .. What would happen if I press it ...I think i will leave them alone for a while... But What do I attack with???

-Transport: What would our little n00b use that for ??!! .. but that is why they call him n00b,, for in his mind this is the button that will get players to transport to him.. So Cute You gotta love em right!!?

Unfortunately a new page opens ... the fleet page... and since he has no fleet he has nothing to use that for...

Sadness overwhelms him!! Why oh why must he be so unlucky??..

He checks the galaxy page again... and at the right of each planet.... Send message, Buddy list... let's leave those for now !! What are messages good for him??

This whole Fleet and ships thing gets our little n00b excited to build some ships!A little click on the shipyard button leaves him disappointed again.

Quote Build Shipyard First

Another click on the buildings screen and our little n00bs brain starts to work again!!

Why did he build that metal Storage... and unaware to him he can easily cancel it !! But some people just don't read!!

No matter, next time he opens his account he will build deuterium and metal and crystal mines !! He will make that shipyard... and so he goes on for another hour before he leaves again... next time he will have more ... and he will build SHIPS!!

Appreciate a little feedback :P:P!!! Or Ideas for the next one

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Part 3 (August 30th, 2007)

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The n00b's Guide to Ogame ( Chap 3)

THIS IS THE LINK!! WHERE U CAN WRITE UR IDEAS FOR THE NEXT REPORT OR JUST FEEDBACK ON WHAT U THOUGHT OF THIS!! OMG DON"T BE DUM :O:O CLICK ON ANY LETTER OF THIS WHOLE TEXT AND A NEW PAGE WILL OPEN.. YEAH YEAH A CLICK!!! :O:O:O

And now ladies And gentlemen the 3rd Edition of your favourite GNN Report

Please give it up for, The n00bs Guide to OGAME!!!!!

Ok Forget the chit chat let's continue with the series.

In the last edition I left our n00b on the brink of acquiring a fleet!!

What has he accomplished since then??

The Production of The Almighty Fleet

Last time we met, our n00b had started building the Robotics and Shipyard necessary for building ships. Yet to his astonishment, after he built his shipyard he still did not manage to build ships. Except for Solar Satellites

Strange thoughts started flying through our n00b's head...

What could be the reason? Maybe another level of shipyard might help??

Once uped to level 2 still no sign of other ships.

A small and angry beast starts to arise in the belly of our n00b.

Perhaps another Robotics Factory. No still nothing there.The creature grows in madness.

Let's give the Shipyard another go.

The n00b waits patiently for the shipyard to end... Clicks on the Shipyard Icon... :O

NOTHING. The beast has awaken.

Upon Witnessing this the n00b goes into a fit of rage. Clicking on icons left and right. Deuterium silo, Resources , Options>Delete Account.. No wait that's wrong

And then almost by an act of god. Our n00b notices the Technology Icon. A quick click reveals a page filled with mystery and puzzles.

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Almost 2 hours have gone since he opened the Technology page.. and finally the n00b figured it out..How could he have missed it

First a Research Lab. Then a few Researches. And finally The SHIPS

And so a week passes by ... our n00b Starts to make an amazing and indestructible fleet.

50 Sc
20 LC
400 LF
100 Cruisers

And amazingly... no probes. After all.. what use are for probes.. they're just a waste of crystal.

So far ... Everything is Perfect... But as we all know ... Nothing is perfect

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The Crushing of a Dream

As most of us know, after 5 k points Gamers leave n00b mode. Everyone BUT our little n00b.

And so under the impression of Extreme Safety and no idea of the concept of Fleetsave. The n00b carelessly leaves his fleet on his Homeworld. Day after day after day.

With his fleet building up, the n00b is pleased with himself. And sure that he is invulnerable.

Then.. on one cloudy and dark day. As the n00b is checking his ogame inbox... he spots a whole bunch of weird and unfamiliar messages, coupled with a red shiny message. A simple Click on it opened our n00b a new page...

Another 30 min and a quick check... and the n00b falls of his chair in horror...

His once immune fleet has been destroyed... Perhaps if he pressed "The back" button in a frenzy of rage, his fleet will be back as new.

Only one thing remains to be done..one last hope that can perhaps bring his fleet back...a message to the assailant will do the trick.

The n00b searches the galaxies for the attacker .. and clicks on the button to send him a Message:

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Fuck U . why did u hit me ..I know many high ranked people .. They will destroy your fleet.. you will see .. they will not leave u anything :@:@:@.. I HATE U!!!!!!!


P.S: How do u attack someone ??? I am confused

And the next day.. set on killing his attacker..as our n00b logs on... he finds a white screen waiting him... He has been banned...

No matter... he will be back ... and he WILL CRUSH .. I mean GET CRUSHED AGAIN!!!

Well I hope j00 enjoys this ^^

Thanks babbles for the endless mistakes ^^

Dedicated to all the O.A (Uni 6) Team Specially : LR And FH

u Bishes

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