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I was hoping that number would've been bigger

Song : you cannot kill something which is already dead and 5feet under

Well it seems that she killed him anyway

reading comprehension is a skill not many have
Just for you, I meant uni, I wanted this scrapped just went for worse as I was hoped that TOT number will be bit higher.
There is no need for fleet when the only people on the server are either Turtles, your Alliance members or in V-mode.
Nothing exciting is going on here...
Scrapping that will save me 100's of millions in deu every day on FS XD

I was hoping that number would've been bigger

Song you cannot kill something which is already dead and 5feet under

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We should all quit the game. In most of communities GOs aren't able to be players as well. You make your choice when you enroll for the staff team, you can't be player and admin at same time..why ? Because as Go you have access on players activities. For example Key Yuki now can tell his friends our timelines and activity easily. Isn't it called as advantage? Examples are more...

or can people simply use PTRE, imagine that there is actually a tool for that for everyone? a bit of GAMEPLAY in my Excel? People noting down on 30-minute intervals for a few days to know when I'm online?! IMAGINE THE AUDACITY OF THAT! HOW DARE THEY USE MY SLIPUPS AGAINST ME IN A PVE GAME CALLED COOKIE CLICKER OGAME TOTALLY A PVP GAME WHERE TIME TRACKING AND ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT ARE THE PRIORITY!

PEOPLE HAVE MORE TIME THAN I DO TO PLAY THE GAME AND ACTUALLY PLAN ATTACKS!?!
CANT BE!?

I don't understand a few aspects here.
Yes, it would be best if you did not play on the server you moderate, that is all good and sound and I agree with my past experience in moderating servers in games.
Overseers here are mostly volunteers, if they don't have active player accounts on the server then there is no issue with them being one.
Why do you get so salty at another player in Excel the Game?
I mean if you were angry at the company which makes incompetent choices it would make sense but why do you and a few others like Grinder antagonize players for playing the game?
Just curious

DM abuse, ah yes remove and restrict the only thing keeping this 20 year old spreadsheet alive....

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Man if only GF provided another 2x uni in the merge like Vega to go to this wouldnt have been a problem..... oh wait

Hahah enough trolling and on a serious note I do agree that this merge was basically pick the best of the bad choices and it does suck when you get hopes up that things will change and they dont so I feel for the players here. In 6 months you can always try for another vote

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1) Remove all reasonable destinations for transfer

lolwut?

this is getting embarrassing

just stop

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2x? we are speaking about x1 uni where they only leave uni 1 alive.

yes, they left 2x uni... Whereas the top 100 have only 5 non-1bn+ players (Lacerta after merging, right now has 74 non-1bn+ players...)

Just a reminder to snowflakes bashing my opinion, we had a choice between these during a merge:

Yes, the game had other slower servers but none of them have even 1 1bn+ players and were not a choice for the merge.

Embarrassing in which way? I like to chat S**t if you like This vote just established this server to be definitely dead as current settings are welcoming death and suffering.
Miners getting farmed, Alliance tab only being there for farming simulator bonus...
No tactical play and braindead putting one mine into the build queue per week till you forget that this game even exists xD
ACS would welcome more dynamic play and wake up the server a little bit...

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i just love how these wallet boys are stuck in a dead uni. Money well spend.

I am sorry however for any normal player also stuck in there...

Maybe a merge to one of the other target unies is possible?

Leave them pay piggies in Lacerta

Don't worry, GF has done such a great job with this year's merges that Lacerta will be exodus next year...

I've met a lot of decent players there, the only people I am worried about are V-mode warriors, they seem to require a mental evaluation...

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Want to be sarcastic?

You seem more attuned to overdramatization, to be honest.

Anyway, we can observe two distinct groups of player in this server: those who signed up to it and those who merged into it.

About the first group, since they signed up in a non-ACS universe to begin with, chances are they want to keep it that way. About the second group, they had the choice to merge into what was essentially the same server but with ACS, and since they opted for the non-ACS choice, once again they are likely to be happy with it.

Oh, i almost forgot, there's a 3rd group of player in Lacerta, it's a small group of people who, since they spent large amounts of money into their accounts, they act under the assumption that the whole community revolves around them and has an obligation to cater to all their whims, only to turn into unsufferable crybabies when, unsurprisingly, the aforementioned community refuses to play that role.

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I mean you are correct, I like dramatization, and fight for no reason for a bit of popcorn in this boring life.

Yes, you have 2 camps, with your statement of merging to ACS or non-acs you forget that not everyone who merged is a 1bn+ player who can actually put a candle against other big players.

I am personally a disco-miner with a bit of fleeting for fun and I knew that if I had gone to a shark pool while being a goldfish, I would've died

To clarify, I am not arguing the outcome as what is done is done, it was a democratic vote so yh... I am just annoyed with a you spewing crap out of your ass on a topic about a server you not even playing...

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1) sign-up en-masse to the only non-ACS server of the community

2) campaign to have it turned into an ACS server like all the others

3) throw an alliance-wide tantrum when they don't have their way because (surprise surprise) enough of players want to keep the server as it is

Makes sense, doesn't it?

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1) Remove all reasonable destinations for transfer
2) Ignore pleas and requests from the community completely.
3) Shock Pikachu face players kinda are forced to choose the better of the 2 evils.
4) laugh at people that they want to adapt new FORCED ON THEM environment to be more reasonable.

Want to be sarcastic?

could not stop myself, sad that the results were basically 50/50
Dead Uni was made a target and there are 3/4 of the players inactive.

what are the results Neotinea ?

I would've said nice hit if not the fact that you sit in V-mode days on end, play on 2nd account or something and only get out of V to harass people with your glass cannon fleet.
Sad gameplay style. I just hope you will run out of Deuterium and leave that glass cannon permanently in Vmode just to not lose the fleet unless you supply deu from your alt account

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It's really fine they way it is rn. Leave the non acs as it is, you all signed up for it when this uni was opened. We could vote on Deut in Df, and I hope every player votes for what they truly want, and not feel pressured or intimidated to vote yes.

Or indeed, how hard would it be to let the people who feel trapped in Lacerta move somewhere else? Pretty sure accounts can be moved manually between unis? We also had to choose the lesser evil in this merge, don't see why we need to be "punished" if we oppose a settings change. Can't they just rework this merge, seeing the players are not happy. But ofc the usual answer - we can't please all. Well they didn't even try for this merge.

what do you mean by intimidated? lolz
There is no pressure, GF did an amazing job by removing all reasonable choices from the pool marking them exodus.
We ask for a vote and all players are not pressured to make their vote according to what few want.
If a vote happens you vote for what you feel is right.

I am unsure as to why a bunch of you acting like a democratic vote is kin to the North Korean government.

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We also had to choose the lesser evil in this merge, don't see why we need to be "punished" if we oppose a settings change. Can't they just rework this merge, seeing the players are not happy. But ofc the usual answer - we can't please all. Well they didn't even try for this merge.

Punish in which way? is someone standing above you with a machete next to your neck?
I agree that everyone was put in the situation of choosing the lesser evil as you are clearly aware.
No, they cannot rework the merge, voicing here is pointless after bashing them for a week after they announced the merge.
I bet people who made the roster don't even open boards and just drop it by a no-reply email to board admins and leave it.
Based on the history of merges, they never try and never listen so my above statement sounds about right.

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Love this democracy where you get punished for bringing out a vote

you aware that this topic here is not the vote but only a request?
if accepted every player will receive system message ingame with link to vote

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Fleets will get crashed regardless of if its on or off.

Of course they will. But less profits from a hit - less chance the hit will happen.

Oh, you sweet summer child... If the number on the right is bigger than on the left even if profits are in negatives on both sides, plenty of other players will go just to see big numbers... Its not about profits but about spreading Chaos for fun...

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I doubt anyone chose this uni due to it having deut to df off. They probably just thought it was the safest option.

And I'm pretty sure it played a big part. And yes - we thought it was the safest option. Uni1 runs since 2004. There is a huge difference when you merge to newer uni and being in danger of 40 players then merging to an older uni and being in danger of 200 players.

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And Lacerta isn't dead for the past 300 days at least?

For me and for another 100+ active players Lacerta started a week ago. The faster you will crush them/us - the faster uni dies. And putting more DF to this equation will lead to more hits - thus faster tendence for players to go i or v.

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Who's fault is it? Dooms? Or maybe GFs for such a braindead merge?

DOOM made what every ali would like to make - become untouchables. And I truly admire that. But common politics plays. No competition in tops makes lowers suffer more.

Changing the rules of uni after new player arrival without hearing from these players is just not fair. Out of 17 ppl (excluding me) who answered to this topic at least 11 belong to DOOM. Majority of players don't come here (to forum) as the age of forums has passed. I just hope GF will consider that unis rules shouldn't be changed due to a wish of single ali. If at least [Persistn] and [N 2] will agree to DOOMs idea - I'll comply.

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You aware that Deu can be used for many other things than just fleeting? Deu to DF would be nice just so you can put research on. All important researches cost loads of deu so being able to raid someone for it, will speed up resource gathering.

Projecting onto other people, just because you chose this uni thanks to ACS off and DEU to DF off does not mean a lot of players did. ACS might have been an important factor for plenty but nobody looks at DF and says "Ahh that's what I am talking about".
Ironically no ACS gives an advantage to universe death as it removes the huge factor of being a part of a cooperative alliance where you cannot request a big shot to protect you from an attack.

Being attacked is just part of the game, if you cannot accept the fact that ogame is a PVP game, why do you even play?
I was crushed a few times and I have crushed people a few times.
We even laughed about it with each other and said GG.
If you looking for endless income without risk you can always play a cookie clicker...

Everyone complained about Merge, GF did what they wanted and ignored anything and everything that was voiced.
They were even considerate to create a thread for us to cry so they could eat some popcorn... but hey! we did not make it a 9 galaxies at least!

Uni rules are not decided by GF but by vote, we are requesting a vote and the result is not up to Doom but to every single player on the server.
Vote will most likely happen at some point and all you need to do is to vote for what you belive should be the outcome.

yes, yes and yes!

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Hello !

As announced in the merge post, galaxies will not be increased.

That's nice, we were speaking about it in this thread for quite a while and would've been nice to see a response here instead of an Edit in the original separate thread where we cannot respond.

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I'd like to take this opportunity to say a few things:

- There is indeed a difference between not giving a damn about feedback and doing what we can internally and waiting to communicate efficiently. You're only seeing the tip of the iceberg, and you need to keep that in mind.

"communicate efficiently"- that is nice and all that you actually mention that as by the looks of it we are not kept in the loop.
We are not updated and even simple: "Let me ask about this" or "We are discussing it" and then actually updating users goes a long way to keep players feeling like they are being heard.

If this is the tip of the iceberg and we are already dissatisfied I am scared of what is below the surface. Efficient communication needs to be performed and transparent. If you just read our comments and never respond we feel like you as a moderation team are acting like a fussy girlfriend leaving us on read for 3 to 5 working years.

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Another important point: the plan can't satisfy everyone, it's impossible. Some have taken the example of the French forum, which asked players to draw up the merger plan and have their say on it before it was sent to GF. It's perfectly appreciated that the community is involved in the choice, and I agree with that. But you have to look at the result:

310 people voted for one plan, 289 voted for the other plan. Reactions were very mixed, even negative. GF won't be able to satisfy the community knowing that it was so divided at the time of the vote, so there will be dissatisfaction. At this stage, it's just factual.

So I'd just like to reiterate that it's not possible to find solutions for every complaint. Still, I hope this little change will bring a tiny ounce of satisfaction for some.

This much is fair, not everyone can be satisfied. But letting us know reasons why things goes this way instead of the other would make us believe in what you saying a bit more than just leaving us on "read".
At this point "communicate efficiently" needs a lot of work to restore the trust of the community that you actually work for our good rather than just "because we feel like it and you can do nothing about it".

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By the way, this topic isn't here to discuss GF's finances or unpaid moderators, please stay on the subject of the merger.

This is a completely fair and reasonable request and I am going to leave this topic.

Can you Neotinea or someone else from the team actually address our concerns, about why this roster was chosen as targets for merges? Why there is no reasonable 1x speed server other than Uni1 which is a suislide to quitting the game due to the number of whales bashing you day and night while we getting 2 x2 servers?

That would work quite favourably in restoring the mentioned trust and work toward what you call "communicate efficiently".
Thanks

Btw, I'm not joking about GF profits. They could really afford 2-3 people to be properly paid to manage Ogame. (this is publicly accessible information)
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Would be nice to get any sort of feedback or anything from GF staff....

Game Forge doesn't care...

Looking at other communities and ours, the fault is with our COMA.

Some of the other communities had forum discussions with their COMAs (who are paid employees) to get community feedback before the merges happened, ours didn't.

The volunteers (GAs, SGOs, GOs, BAs, etc.) will and have voiced their opinions on what they think would be best for the community and will send up their thoughts on what unis should be designated target and exodus. And Game Forge will always come back with something completely different and no feedback for their reasoning (at least that's what they're told by the COMA).

Prongs should change his name to Shingles...because he doesn't care (not everyone will understand the reference).

We really should have a campaign and a petition to have Prongs removed as our COMA. Do a search history of Prong's posts. Virtually zero community involvement other than posting announcements and events. I believe he has only replied to one thread in an actual player-created post/discussion since the 2023 merge fiasco that he was responsible for.

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While Cathedral is welcome to his own opinion and there is nothing wrong in having one, for those with an open mind I would encourage you to not take the suggestion that Prongs does not care as fact.

As a previous BA working alongside Prongs I can tell you all that he very much cares and has done so much for org in the background that most of you will never understand.

Prongs has reformed the entirety of the working culture amongst org volunteer workers for the best and created a team that works in cohesion unlike under previous comas.

Prongs prefers to let the GA and BA be at the forefront leading the community driven communications and they all feedback into him any concerns and queries they have.

Prongs reads far more of what goes on this board than you may realise and many of his ideas and communications come via the Admins back to the community.

People can have their opinion and that is fine but from experience I can say the opinion above is wrong.

The decisions in this merge most definitely would have been thought through and there will be reasoning behind the choices made even if they are not evidently obvious now, sometimes future updates that the community does not know about can impact choices like this.

Either way Prongs will very much so be aware of this thread and if the concerns were strong enough and valid enough I am sure he would take those into consideration if possible.

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If indeed they listen and have reasonings, maybe it would be worth sharing it with the community for once.
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Merger options are so bad it feels like it was made up by an AI trying to maximize player negativity.

We are given Uni1 which is very bad for most players due to the age of the server and no alternative x1 speed server.
We are given 2x and 4x2x servers as a choice, one of them being so dead that everyone is surprised that it is not Exodus.
We are given an x5 server which seems the only choice for x4/x5 etc servers.

If there is indeed reasoning behind all of this we are very keen to listen to them as except for Thuban and Vega the rest of the choices are completely bonkers.
You did not provide a relatively younger server for the people who prefer slow fleets.
AB and SO sit quietly for about 96 hours without addressing discontent and people voicing their opinions left here by the community in the post created for that purpose...?
What's the point of creating a thread like this if you just gonna let it stir and ignore it?
If they would indeed be interested in interacting with us, why not create a thread with initial decisions on Merge and ask the community for feedback, adjust it and post it?
Given not all players use boards and the forum era is dead for a while but we still play this game, spend money on it and actively try to give you feedback on generally bad decisions made as the community hates them.

Are you telling me that BA reads posts and listens? Where in this lineup have you got any evidence of that?
At the moment it looks to at least me and probably some players here as follows:
"Okay, we need to delete some universes to make some space for new ones to boost this Quarter financially. Let's pick at random unis which are going to be nuked and choose target unis at random too. They will have no choice but to accept it and let's even sprinkle some salt on this wound of discontent by creating a thread to voice this discontent and completely ignore it. (Again as it seems to be a standard practice regarding merges)"
This is a spreadsheet-like game but instead of paying people to moderate it and genuinely try to keep it alive, GF actively relies on free labour and only checks if this game still brings profits, if not they will slash it the moment profit gets anywhere close to being even with costs.
They already did it to a lot of games.
I am not going to go off at mods either as per above I belive that there should be some paid staff at a minimum otherwise you are not in a position to care.

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#savegaspra

I guess cozy is an alright description, but an universe with 100 actives doesn't really seem well alive.

I still argue we dont need 4 targets and 9 galaxies on those, please reconsider.

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They will still have more than 4 servers but decided to kill working ones and shuffle players just to create more chaos and anger within the community.
This is almost 1:1 Lacerta server.
Why not just leave Gaspra alone as one of the few last x1 war servers (Uni 1 is not a choice)?

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#savegaspra

I guess cozy is an alright description, but an universe with 100 actives doesn't really seem well alive.

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I would much prefer for Gaspra to be a target or left alone

I really think 4 targets is overkill already. Not sure why we should discuss more. Which one or two targets would you exchange for gaspra in this case?

Cosy is the right description.
A lot of fun here. Answer to both, Lacerta even through both with Gaspra could stay. The main problem is there is no good alternative for x1 speed as Uni1 is not a choice.

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You seem to hate metal packages very much

Where did you get this from?

I just don't see the balancing and "I am scared of big people" aspect anymore with metal packages.

Anyone can explode and become big. Rather take the more active option(s) than be scared of something that can (and will) happen to you either way.

By explode are you suggesting spending about 1000$'s just to get to the top?
I mean in my opinion packs as is are quite balanced right now.
You are getting a boost while not too much.
For example with x8 eco, I need about 5bn metal to get the next level of metal mine while each pack give me 0.5bn. That translates to 10 packs at 20% off 40k DM. That is 400k dm +/- which on a 100% bonus event translates to about 10-12Euro. just to get metal not to mention the rest of the res which pushes it more toward 15-20 Euro PER PLANET. so roughly ~200Euro to gain about ~50milion points. Yes it increases but without going into multi-thousand Euro purchase is not enough to scale up.
Yes, you can push it all into fleet but if everything you own is a fleet, one player can bring you down to nothing without sweating with big enough diff you cannot even FS fleet as you do earn not enough Deuter long term which is often called "Glass Cannon".

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ahead that you cannot even hope to compete

Competing is dead since the introduction of metal packages.

Since then its just you against yourself, if you still play without.

For a miner it doesn't change much if rank 1 has 500k Battlecruisers, or 5kk BC or 50kk or even 500kk

The Miner dies either way to those. So this is a non factor.

When it comes to fleeters its as said fucked by packages.

Anyone in these Universes might turn up out of nothing and go from zero to hero and be the same threat as you seem to see in u1.

Just look at Gaspra. 1 Year ago #1 had 20kk Points. Nowadays he's Top 40 in .en

There are probably even bigger examples of that, but seeing a target universe as a problem because of the size of people is kinda flawed with the current pack meta

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You seem to hate metal packages very much but you know, there will always be whales who have a lot and people below. We below trying to balance everything to our advantage and compete so we can succeed and join people at the top normal way. You can try or live long enough to become a farm (miner)... Metal packages you like it or not are part of the game. They keep the servers alive.

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ACS disabled removes a lot of tactics on the server as you cannot slow down your fleet to defend against another player trying to defend the target, jointly attack a common enemy or even help your teammate defend from enemy attack.

Not if, the only people playing that server are basically from one alliance..

It can be a good and a bad thing, it is all about how you play your cards.

But let's keep it around the merge topic as this discussion can be easily taken to other general topics which went nowhere as both sides got a valid point.

I would much prefer for Gaspra to be a target or left alone. Based on my conversation with clan members, other players on the server and other people here, we are missing a good target for x1 fleet speed with ACS.
(as nobody want to go Uni 1).
This makes the game a bit more fun to participate in.

Can we have a vote to adjust the merger decided by mods or is this a pointless topic where we can just vent and nothing will be taken into consideration?
(no hate just an honest question because consensus shows that in general, everyone is quite mad about the current decision).