Posts by Cathedral

Congrats on the hit...

Her feet...are huge, like really huge.

GLORD

The fleet launches timeouts/errors are annoying.

The voting didn't happen because the conversation here didn't support having a vote. We were here before you, and we're here after you left...enjoy your other universe and we'll enjoy this one for as long as they keep it 1x. What you've proved is that you can move to another to play the way you want to, but we can't...we only have Dorado.

I will always push and vote to keep all of Dorado's settings all 1x.

The only thing I would consider voting for was if there was a way to implement the aforementioned tiered catch-up mechanic for lower-ranked to accelerate their growth that is somehow based on rank 1 (much like expo results are). It's been suggested multiple times in the suggestion forum but it's never gained traction.

The new uni will die a quick death, just like they all do...

erick84mm wrote:

Dear Ogame support team

I want to report a trade going on with the players:

Commander Callisto

Armani

We are going to trade up to 30 moon shots on several planets. According to the bashing rule, we can attack each other a maximum of 6 times in 24 hours, however, I'll like to temporarily rule out this rule.

Each moonshot attempt will have 834 light fighters since the DF is 60% in this universe.

Would that be ok?

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I would recommend you use the support system and open a ticket as opposed to sending up a beacon for everyone in the uni to see what you're doing...

Also, an often overlooked part of the bashing rule that you should review:

New Game Rules - valid from 17.9.2012

"A bashing investigation will only proceed if a player is reported."

Sounds a lot like the "fairness" complaints people have had about DM and insta jump gates too...

Graveyard merges are the new meta now, it's been known for a while that this is a possible threat...gotta keep your head on a swivel and maintain situational awareness or you'll lose it all. The genie is already out of the bottle, they're not going to put it back in now that they've set the standard for merging these mammoth accounts.

The golden rule of oGame is more true now than ever...if you let it sit, it will get hit.

Please review the thread on posting a war declaration to ensure you have the format correct for a valid war declaration, as it stands now you are missing information.

You can review it here: Universe Section Rules

Patience always wins. Congrats, profits are outstanding.

GLORD

That ECO is a thing of beauty though...

I guess my sales pitch was on point though!

nanogram wrote:

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they should have rallied the troops and voiced those concerns "before".

, because you, I, and everyone else on the board know user feedback means on the forums.

You're wrong about that...and I can prove it because Dorado wouldn't exist right now if we hadn't rallied the troops and voiced our concerns to keep it. Dorado was an exodus uni, not a target uni...if it wasn't for the community of Dorado and others from a variety of different unis banding together to have their voices heard it would be gone right now.

You're doing a lot of complaining, you're mad, upset, frustrated, etc. that your routine and safe zone have been disrupted but what you're not doing is presenting viable solutions that work both for your community and this newcomer who is most likely here to stay whether you like it or not. Poo poo my idea, fine...come up with better ones then.

CrazyLady wrote:

Disagree, I am using AGO and it's happened to me a number of times since the update ...... sorry

I haven't used AGR for quite some time, just Infinity...though, unless it updates I'll have to go back to AGR if RiV is able to make the updates for this latest update.

Namkabuan wrote:

it's not about "using it as a slight", it's that you used relatively provocative terms like "whining", while being King Whiner yourself when the Dorado bullshit, however justified, happened.

In the end it seems we have a new solution to this problem, people.

Completely change the server setting to cripple (lmao) one specific account.

(Let's ignore how Quasar was supposed to change its setting months ago and no one has heard anything about it ever since the first announcement in March)

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There is a huge difference between fighting for something "before" a change occurs, and then complaining about it after the fact...especially if what triggers that complaining is having a fleet wiped out because someone felt they were too big to fall and let themselves get hit.

If you don't like my "solution", then organize and come up with something better. But if your plan is to just complain about the unfairness that they showed up, I personally doubt it will work. They have every right to play the game as anyone else does...within the parameters of the rules that have been set before them. What's the old cliche, "don't hate the player, hate the game...".

Namkabuan wrote:

So in the end there is no way to get away from it, once something like this happens, the only thing you can realistically do is stop playing. Unless of course you're okay with scrapping everything and becoming a miner, and fuck that

Or, instead of complaining you could organize the universe and show some leadership by going after the things that attracted this player to this universe and request that they are changed. You're worried about speedy out-of-system MDs, then rally the troops and use your voices and demand a change to the setting(s).

In my opinion, and this is my opinion...I would be surprised if Game Forge forcibly removes this player (as well as the others from Xanthus and Umbra). Provided the player(s) did not cheat and did not circumnavigate the rules to get to those unis I don't see much recourse that doesn't penalize them for following the rules. Doing so would be unfair to them given the fact that they followed the rules. And while staying here might not seem fair, fairness has always been trumped by the rules. Don't like the rules...then organize and use your voices to change them. I personally don't like the fact that different communities have different rules. I don't like that some rules are left...subjective and open to interpretation. But I do my best to enforce them with the tools we have at our disposal.

Someone tried to use the Dorado merge as some sort of slight against me...here's the thing, I fought for Dorado along with hundreds of other players to combat an unfair merge "before" it happened. We still got shafted to a degree, but at least we kept Dorado 1x the way the game was meant to be played. The circumstances are different. But at the end of the day, mergers have never been fair to the players in my opinion.

This isn't "before", this is "after"...and everyone has been aware for some time now that these types of merges could happen and if they were concerned then they should have rallied the troops and voiced those concerns "before". And everyone that was paying attention knew when these accounts went to the graveyard...it wasn't some big secret, the only thing people didn't know was where they were planning on going.

What is interesting (to me) is that they seem to have all simultaneously chose different unis so it makes me wonder if there is some sort of end game and this is just the orchestration of a long-term goal they have in the works.

If the community had thought about the consequences of graveyard merges when they were first brought to the table then they should have voiced them prior to the proverbial crap hitting the fan. Think this is bad, wait until the chaos accounts mature and start merging...

nanogram wrote:

These things can happen but have nothing to do with a whale merging in the middle of the night and poppin your fleet.

However, these are two different skills we are discussing...

Seriously? You're whining about things that go bump in the night now? The people that play this game don't have to conform to your "night".

Players can have more than one skill set...I know plenty of fleeters that know how to take advantage of "all" resource generators.

CaoDanado wrote:

well, u said everything!
the point is: the account arrive at the middle of the night on the universe, 1am like I said and for me I only want to the acc stays at vmode for 48h..

on the merge we know when the merge start and ends. With grav no.

If you all are playing in such a way that you're worried someone is going to catch you in the middle of the night then you are playing the wrong game. And their middle of the night might be your morning so stop using "time" as a lame excuse for your own weaknesses here.

Namkabuan wrote:

Chill it with the schizo theories, not every uni is like Xanthus.

"Situational awareness"

Not touching the point that fleetsaving wouldn't save anyone if an account like that merges during the night and pops your moons?

No surprises there, since that barely ever happens in a 1x.

This still doesn't negate the fact that if you leave a fleet sitting, that's on you regardless of who comes to town. Players will just have to get out of the "routines" they've developed and learn how to adapt and survive.

Namkabuan wrote:

Yeah, every fleet should be on a recalled deployment because you never know when 1 millions rips might join your uni.

You also never know when someone will infiltrate your alliance, collect data, set up an elaborate plan to take down everybody, and then pull the trigger ala Red Sparrow.

People get complacent, people lose fleets...that never changes.

I have zero sympathy for anyone who lacks situational awareness and leaves a fleet sitting because they think they're untouchable.

nanogram wrote:

Madoka wrote:

Ultimately the answer is simple, because thats how it was chosen to work.

And just because they think they are safe does not mean they get the avoid the golden rule of oGame no FS no Fleet.

You as a moderator should be more supportive, empathic. Not respond like a bot defending everything GF.

I don't know what to say if you think this is right.

The old no FS no fleet "rule" can't be applied here.

This particular account merge is unfair to all players in that universe.

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Madoka is exactly on point.

Regardless of what account(s) get merged where; fleet saving is the golden rule of survival. Fail to do that, by making a conscious decision to let a fleet sit is not anyone else's problem but that player's. Players that think they are too big to fall, will.

These massive accounts were brought up under the rules and conditions set forth by Game Forge, so to punish them for following said rules and playing by the mechanics is no fault of their own.

Merges have been unfair to players since the word merge was first uttered years ago since GF could not or would not institute a system that would ensure a level and competitive field.

As far as I'm concerned, if you're not playing in a 1x flt/eco/res uni you are using a crutch anyway and aren't playing the game the way it was meant to be played.

And this BS about "whales" being unskilled or people using DM being unskilled is garbage and whining similar to the whining players used to use in the old days when all they had to complain about was "player x gets to spend more time in the game than I do because he has no life". These players knew how to work the system within the parameters set forth by Game Forge to get those accounts where they did, there is knowledge and skill there regardless if you can't recognize it.